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Subject: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-11-30 8:01 AM (#13619) (#13619) Top


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Joo M.Y
Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-11-30 12:27 PM (#13620 - in reply to #13619) (#13620) Top




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Oops! Again 2 tests a week......
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Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-11-30 10:58 PM (#13629 - in reply to #13620) (#13629) Top




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what is the second on this week?
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Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-11-30 11:04 PM (#13630 - in reply to #13629) (#13630) Top


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margareta456 - 2013-11-30 10:58 PM

what is the second on this week?
HCS 12
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Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-12-02 8:48 PM (#13661 - in reply to #13619) (#13661) Top


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Logic Masters India announces Forsmarts XIth Anniversary Contest

Author : Vladimir Portugalov

Dates : 7th -9th December

IB and Submission Link : here

swaroop2011
Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-12-03 4:16 AM (#13667 - in reply to #13619) (#13667) Top


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I think in Japanese Sums Hitori Style "the clue in 4th column has to be 2 - 13 -13 instead of 2-13-11 as given in IB " ?

Edited by swaroop2011 2013-12-03 4:19 AM
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-12-03 6:49 AM (#13671 - in reply to #13619) (#13671) Top


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will we be having any practice puzzles for this test too? :)
AndreyBogdanov
Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-12-03 2:59 PM (#13680 - in reply to #13667) (#13680) Top


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swaroop2011 - 2013-12-03 2:16 AM

I think in Japanese Sums Hitori Style "the clue in 4th column has to be 2 - 13 -13 instead of 2-13-11 as given in IB " ?
Yes, you are right. This is typo. Correct clue should be 2-13-13
Nikola
Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-12-04 6:26 PM (#13696 - in reply to #13680) (#13696) Top


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I suppose number 0 is allowed in XI areas where it is possible because there is one 0 in the example of 2D Magic. But what about Japanese Sums Hitori Style? Can we get combination 7-0-4 or 11-0 outside the grid? I never saw a word about zero sums in basic rules of this puzzle type.

Nikola
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-12-04 7:41 PM (#13697 - in reply to #13696) (#13697) Top


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Nikola - 2013-12-04 6:26 PM

I suppose number 0 is allowed in XI areas where it is possible because there is one 0 in the example of 2D Magic. But what about Japanese Sums Hitori Style? Can we get combination 7-0-4 or 11-0 outside the grid? I never saw a word about zero sums in basic rules of this puzzle type.

Nikola


Puzzles like 2D Magic and Slitherlink where 0 is part of the usual classic version of the puzzle can have 0 in the XI areas. Puzzles like Japanese Sums where there normally isn't a 0 outside the grid, cannot have 0 in XI areas.
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-12-06 8:38 AM (#13716 - in reply to #13619) (#13716) Top


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Will this test be accounted for monthly ratings ?
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Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-12-06 8:38 AM (#13717 - in reply to #13716) (#13717) Top


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swaroop2011 - 2013-12-06 8:38 AM

Will this test be accounted for monthly ratings ?
It will NOT be.
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Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-12-07 7:40 AM (#13726 - in reply to #13619) (#13726) Top


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swaroop2011
Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-12-07 11:13 AM (#13727 - in reply to #13619) (#13727) Top


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on my page due to screen problem
penalty is showing as : NaN. so i didnt knew how much it was
but i submitted bottom pyramid puzzle assuming that this points would be greater than penalty. but now i see that my negative points are more. i thought if puzzle points submitted is less than negative points it would not be considered ?

Apart from this awesome puzzles. But i feel many are on hard side. Also i feel the penalty for extended time is very high.
Thanks to authors for wonderful test. The kropkuro bottom and pyramid bottom are my favorites.
have to solve all remaining ones.

Edited by swaroop2011 2013-12-07 11:18 AM
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Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-12-07 11:25 AM (#13728 - in reply to #13727) (#13728) Top


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swaroop2011 - 2013-12-07 11:13 AM

on my page due to screen problem
penalty is showing as : NaN. so i didnt knew how much it was
Fixed.
chaotic_iak
Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-12-07 1:49 PM (#13729 - in reply to #13619) (#13729) Top



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I finished Sudoku (Bottom) with -48 on penalty, but that's not including entering the answer keys... D: (So I decided to ditch it.)

My favorites among those solved are Sudoku (Top) and Fillomino (Top). Fillomino (Bottom), Domino Castle, and Snake (Bottom) follow. A nice test, using those 11-areas effectively. Perhaps a few minor complaints are the rapid penalty (but then you already have 120 minutes), quite some puzzles being mostly trial and error, and the dominoes not forming an easier-to-inspect shape:

You have
00 11 22
01 12
02

I prefer
00
01 11
02 12 22
achan1058
Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-12-07 2:24 PM (#13730 - in reply to #13729) (#13730) Top




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This was so bad...... I managed to botch the domino castle multiple times, and somehow not being able to figure out the fillominos. Worst still, by the time I fixed the castle wall, the penalty is already -59, so I said screw it. On the other hand I am proud to say I got the both kropkuro and the Japanese sums. The penalty is a bit steep, seeing how the highest point question is 140 and the maximum penalty is 180.

By the way, out of curiosity. If I submitted a question worth 60 points when the penalty is -65, will that lower my score?

Edited by achan1058 2013-12-07 2:31 PM
MellowMelon
Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-12-09 3:14 AM (#13751 - in reply to #13619) (#13751) Top


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Thanks for the test. Despite finding the IB and its examples somewhat terrifying, I enjoyed this test more than I enjoyed the previous anniversary competitions.

Fillomino Top was my last solve. That was the hardest puzzle on the test for me. :(
tamz29
Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-12-09 9:34 PM (#13761 - in reply to #13751) (#13761) Top




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I found the fillomino a bit dreadful too. Were they that easy?? I spent 20+ minutes on both of them for only 45 points.
chaotic_iak
Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-12-10 7:31 AM (#13767 - in reply to #13761) (#13767) Top



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I took 3/6 minutes for the 15/30 points. Definitely undervalued.
anderson
Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-12-10 7:36 AM (#13768 - in reply to #13619) (#13768) Top




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This was really fun. Thanks for the puzzles! The domino castle, in particular, was really cool.

And looking at the results, I typoed the arrows. Darn!
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-12-10 11:30 AM (#13769 - in reply to #13768) (#13769) Top


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I intuitively solved the top Fillomino pretty quickly, and communicated the same to Vladimir. I suppose the intuitive ones are easier when you're solving one at a time. Also, approaching such puzzles with an open mind is probably better than approaching them expecting them to be really easy.

For the smaller one, I just figured out it'll be two 8 shapes, two 3 shapes, so the middle shape has to be 8, 2, 1. This covers all the cells, knowing that the 1 and 2 shape will be used to separate the 8s. Then it's all about whether both 3s are involved in the separation or just the bottom left one.

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Subject: Re: forsmarts 11th Anniversary Contest — 7th-9th December @ 2013-12-11 9:32 AM (#13780 - in reply to #13769) (#13780) Top


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