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Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013
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frst
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-07 3:56 AM (#9356 - in reply to #9294) (#9356) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Administrator
Subject: RE: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-07 5:38 AM (#9357 - in reply to #9353) (#9357) Top


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zachpuzzle - 2013-01-07 2:20 AM

What exactly are the rules for when you can and when you can't claim a puzzle's points? Is it exclusively if you think that the puzzle was broken? or also if you misdid the answer key? For my case, I mixed up the white and black cells answering the mochikoro. Does it still count? Should I claim the points?
Certainly a valid claim in this case. We'll look into it.
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-07 7:14 AM (#9359 - in reply to #9294) (#9359) Top


An LMI Player with Puzzle ratings 500+
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Way too few puzzles (too much time)
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


greenhorn
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-07 7:34 AM (#9360 - in reply to #9359) (#9360) Top


Wacky Slovak Classics Author

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I really enjoyed this test, there were too many great puzzles. In my opinion, three best puzzles were Spiral battleship, Grafitti snake and Cubic sudoku. On the other hand, I still have no clue, how to start Fence samurai, it was the hardest puzzle for me. Consider that 150 minutes is too much, when you are solving during the night. I have lost track of time and missed the chance to submit my solutions
RALehrer
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-07 8:05 AM (#9361 - in reply to #9294) (#9361) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too few pages / too small grids


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-07 8:47 AM (#9362 - in reply to #9294) (#9362) Top


An LMI Player with Sudoku ratings 500-
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Way too many puzzles (too little time)
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-07 10:59 AM (#9363 - in reply to #9360) (#9363) Top


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greenhorn - 2013-01-07 7:34 AM

I really enjoyed this test, there were too many great puzzles. In my opinion, three best puzzles were Spiral battleship, Grafitti snake and Cubic sudoku. On the other hand, I still have no clue, how to start Fence samurai, it was the hardest puzzle for me. Consider that 150 minutes is too much, when you are solving during the night. I have lost track of time and missed the chance to submit my solutions


Fence is all about figuring out the interactions between the grids. Thats all I'll say so that you can check again when you're less confused *been there*
PuzzleScott
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-07 2:09 PM (#9364 - in reply to #9294) (#9364) Top




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In trio cut, can triominoes touch each other?
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-07 2:13 PM (#9365 - in reply to #9364) (#9365) Top



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PuzzleScott - 2013-01-07 2:09 PM

In trio cut, can triominoes touch each other?
Only at a point. (2 Triminos can not share an edge)
PuzzleScott
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-07 3:26 PM (#9366 - in reply to #9294) (#9366) Top




Posts: 42
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Location: USA
 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-07 3:28 PM (#9367 - in reply to #9294) (#9367) Top


An LMI Player with Puzzle ratings 500+
 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-07 9:04 PM (#9368 - in reply to #9294) (#9368) Top


An LMI Player with Puzzle ratings 500+
 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


zachpuzzle
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-08 1:37 AM (#9369 - in reply to #9363) (#9369) Top




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Greenhorn, Having done the samuri test really helped because it gave a foot hold on both the masyu and the fences.

Edited by zachpuzzle 2013-01-08 1:38 AM
macherlakumar
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-08 1:54 AM (#9370 - in reply to #9294) (#9370) Top





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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount


detuned
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-08 4:14 AM (#9372 - in reply to #9294) (#9372) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


A very nice - albeit very challenging - start to the puzzle year. Thanks to Andrey, Vladimir and the organisers!
FoxFireX
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-08 5:57 AM (#9373 - in reply to #9365) (#9373) Top





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debmohanty - 2013-01-07 3:13 AM

PuzzleScott - 2013-01-07 2:09 PM

In trio cut, can triominoes touch each other?
Only at a point. (2 Triminos can not share an edge)


This would have been lovely to know when I was solving it. :/
debmohanty
Subject: RE: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-08 8:30 AM (#9375 - in reply to #9294) (#9375) Top



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Best of LMI Puzzle Tests is now over - Link to score page - http://logicmastersindia.com/2013/01P/score.asp

Congratulations to deu, MellowMelon and uvo for taking top 3 positions.

Password for puzzle booklet : 20f0ll0wm312
Link to solution booklet
Administrator
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-08 9:20 AM (#9377 - in reply to #9294) (#9377) Top


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Making it consistent with other measures at LMI, puzzle ratings in each test will now be weighted by LMI ratings.
flk
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-08 8:43 PM (#9381 - in reply to #9294) (#9381) Top




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Unfortunately my internet went down for the day that I wanted to do this, but I still enjoyed doing it afterwards. Thanks!
apollo1001
Subject: RE: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-08 11:53 PM (#9383 - in reply to #9357) (#9383) Top




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Administrator - 2013-01-07 12:38 AM

zachpuzzle - 2013-01-07 2:20 AM

What exactly are the rules for when you can and when you can't claim a puzzle's points? Is it exclusively if you think that the puzzle was broken? or also if you misdid the answer key? For my case, I mixed up the white and black cells answering the mochikoro. Does it still count? Should I claim the points?
Certainly a valid claim in this case. We'll look into it.


Likewise, I take it I cannot claim for 'miscounting' on the chained battleships (I put 3 for A as it went over 3 squares, rather than its length of 2...)?

Is there a page somewhere on what makes a valid claim? Thanks in advance.
MellowMelon
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-09 1:57 AM (#9384 - in reply to #9383) (#9384) Top


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My impression is there are no rules to claiming. If you think you have any grounds to get points, claim and explain why. It's the author's decision as to whether you get them in the end or not.

Test authors handle claims a bit differently anyway.

Edited by MellowMelon 2013-01-09 1:58 AM
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-09 2:39 PM (#9387 - in reply to #9294) (#9387) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


forsmarts
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-09 3:48 PM (#9388 - in reply to #9294) (#9388) Top


forsmarts 13th Anniversary Contest Author

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The test is over. Thanks to all the puzzlers for participation!

TOP 3:
1. Hideaki Jo (JAP)
2. Palmer Mebane (USA)
3. Ulrich Voigt (GER)

Here are some statistics:
186 competitors started the test
- 135 (72.58%) made at least one entry
- - 131 (97.04%) made at least one correct entry
- - 63 (46.67%) made at least one incorrect entry

The most submitted puzzles are:
- Suraromu (114, 84.44%)
- Ripple Effect (104, 77.04%)
- Make Room For Tapa (99, 73.33%)

The least submitted puzzles are:
- Spiral Battleships (10, 7.41%)
- Chained Battleships (14, 10.37%)
- Border Loop (15, 11.11%)

The puzzles submitted with the highest accuracy:
- Border loop (15/15, 100%)
- Pointing evens (43/44, 97.72%)
- Loop the loop (54/56, 96.42%)

The puzzles submitted with the lowest accuracy:
- Spiral Battleships (7/10, 70%)
- Chained Battleships (10/14, 71.42%)
- Trio Cut (21/28, 75%)

The puzzles with the biggest number of incorrect submissions:
- Ripple Effect (14/104, 13.46%)
- Horse Snake (13/77, 16.88%)
- Make Room For Tapa (13/99, 13.13%)

The puzzles with the highest rating:
- LITS2 (9.10)
- Cubic Star Battle (9.03)
- Fishermen at War (9.02)

The puzzles with the lowest rating:
- Yin-Yang Samurai (7.13)
- Ripple Effect (7.37)
- Horse Snake (7.53)

Also I would like to thank all the authors of the tests used for this compilation. Me and Andrey both had a great time selecting/creating the puzzles for this test.

All the best,
Vladimir
tamz29
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-09 4:35 PM (#9389 - in reply to #9388) (#9389) Top




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I couldn't solve any Puzzle Fusion puzzles :(
The puzzles were really good. Thanks!
AndreyBogdanov
Subject: Re: Best of LMI Puzzle Tests — January Puzzle Test — 5th-7th January 2013 @ 2013-01-10 7:03 PM (#9393 - in reply to #9294) (#9393) Top


Snowmen Author

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Greetings to the winners and thanks to all participants.
Unfortunately I was ill last few days and couldn't watch the contest. Thanks to Vladimir and Deb for handling all claims.
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