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Subject: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-07 7:25 PM (#6611) (#6611) Top


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Tapa Variations Contest IX

Date: 11-12 February 2012

Length: 75+5 minutes

IB and Submission Link : http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/IX/
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Subject: Re: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-07 7:48 PM (#6612 - in reply to #6611) (#6612) Top


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In the Battle Tapa, the rule "ships can't touch each other not even diagonally" is missing.
If ignoring that rule, there is another solution.

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CXXXXX
XBXCBX
XXXXBX
XBBXXB
XXCBXX
BBBXXC
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(B:battleship, X:Tapa wall, C:clue)
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Subject: Re: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-07 8:17 PM (#6613 - in reply to #6611) (#6613) Top




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Here's a repost of my Battle Tapa example, because I don't know where the other thread went. I also am assuming that the 'ships can't touch' rule is missing from the instructions.



Note that there's one one-unit ship missing from the standard Battleships set.
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Subject: Re: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-07 9:35 PM (#6614 - in reply to #6611) (#6614) Top


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I have question about No Sqaures Tapa, clue cells are in this puzzle white or not?

Edited by muhorka 2012-02-07 9:36 PM
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Subject: Re: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-07 9:45 PM (#6615 - in reply to #6614) (#6615) Top


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muhorka - 2012-02-07 9:35 PM

I have question about No Sqaures Tapa, clue cells are in this puzzle white or not?


Very good question, I should mention in the IB. Yes, clue cells are white.
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Subject: Re: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-07 9:46 PM (#6616 - in reply to #6612) (#6616) Top


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xevs - 2012-02-07 7:48 PM

In the Battle Tapa, the rule "ships can't touch each other not even diagonally" is missing.
If ignoring that rule, there is another solution.

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CXXXXX
XBXCBX
XXXXBX
XBBXXB
XXCBXX
BBBXXC
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(B:battleship, X:Tapa wall, C:clue)


I missed "touching" things in IB. Yes, ships cannot touch each other even diagonally.
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Subject: RE: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-08 2:04 AM (#6617 - in reply to #6611) (#6617) Top




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I don't think the Total False Tapa Example is unique. Or am I missing a rule?

[Edit] I figured it out. I now understand that the amount of sections also has to differ from the amount of digits given in the clue cell.


Is there a chance the clue cells in Equal tapa can be coloured grey? It has been the case in other variations. It's just that in another variation they do count as white cells.

Edited by Para 2012-02-08 2:13 AM
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Subject: RE: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-08 2:15 AM (#6618 - in reply to #6611) (#6618) Top


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Will there be penalty during the grace period. I guess yes. How much?
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Subject: RE: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-08 2:20 AM (#6619 - in reply to #6617) (#6619) Top


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Para - 2012-02-08 2:04 AM
Is there a chance the clue cells in Equal tapa can be coloured grey? It has been the case in other variations. It's just that in another variation they do count as white cells.


Yes, I'll mark clue cells with grey.
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Subject: RE: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-08 2:22 AM (#6620 - in reply to #6618) (#6620) Top


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Valezius - 2012-02-08 2:15 AM

Will there be penalty during the grace period. I guess yes. How much?


When we announce puzzle points, penalty points will appear. So all points (including penalty) will be announced in Friday.
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Subject: Re: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-08 6:26 AM (#6621 - in reply to #6613) (#6621) Top



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figonometry - 2012-02-07 8:17 PM

Here's a repost of my Battle Tapa example, because I don't know where the other thread went.
It is here
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Subject: Re: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-09 4:28 PM (#6641 - in reply to #6621) (#6641) Top


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I look forward to beginning a new tapa season. In Serbia we have a new verb "tapanje". It means "doing tapa" .

About puzzle 7. Digital Tapa I wonder why number 9 is given. Can we expect clues in bigger cells, 2x2 for example? In that case is it possible to appear two-digit clue? Thanks!

Nikola

Edited by Nikola 2012-02-09 4:29 PM
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Subject: Re: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-09 8:04 PM (#6642 - in reply to #6641) (#6642) Top


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Nikola - 2012-02-09 4:28 PM

I look forward to beginning a new tapa season. In Serbia we have a new verb "tapanje". It means "doing tapa" .


I'd love to know how that's pronounced so I can use it in conversation, coz I'll be tapanje quite a lot in the coming months
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Subject: Re: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-10 12:32 AM (#6643 - in reply to #6611) (#6643) Top




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I've made some practise puzzles, in case anyone is interested.

http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.com/2012/02/tvc-ix-practise.html
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Subject: Re: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-10 9:48 AM (#6648 - in reply to #6611) (#6648) Top


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yureklis - 2012-02-08 2:22 AM

Valezius - 2012-02-08 2:15 AM

Will there be penalty during the grace period. I guess yes. How much?


When we announce puzzle points, penalty points will appear. So all points (including penalty) will be announced in Friday.


PuzzlePoints
Tapa Restoration (Top)31
Tapa Restoration (Bottom)36
Tapa Line (Top)33
Tapa Line (Bottom)69
Battle Tapa60
Tapa Trimino77
Total False Tapa (Top)32
Total False Tapa (Bottom)54
Tapa Guard (Top)37
Tapa Guard (Bottom)59
Digital Tapa26
Tapa Shape49
Equal Tapa (Top)43
Equal Tapa (Bottom)51
No Squares Tapa (Top)30
No Squares Tapa (Bottom)62
Contest Length : 75 minutes
Total Points : 749
Bonus : 8 points per minute saved
Grace Period : 5 minutes
Penalty : 5 points per minute used
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Subject: Re: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-10 9:52 AM (#6649 - in reply to #6641) (#6649) Top


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Nikola - 2012-02-09 4:28 PM

About puzzle 7. Digital Tapa I wonder why number 9 is given. Can we expect clues in bigger cells, 2x2 for example? In that case is it possible to appear two-digit clue?

9 will not be printed in the puzzle booklet.
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Subject: Re: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-10 11:40 AM (#6650 - in reply to #6611) (#6650) Top




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I don't understand the rules of Tapa Guard. From the example I have a theory. I have repeated rule 2 in a way that it makes sense to me. All changed words are upper-case:

2 - Each digit represents a guard, observing EXACTLY that amount of blackened cells in the corresponding DIRECTION. A digit in an undivided cell MUST observe in AT LEAST ONE of the four directions.
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Subject: Re: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-10 11:53 AM (#6651 - in reply to #6611) (#6651) Top




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I also had a question about Tapa Guard.

In an undivided cell, if there are equal digits, should each observe that amount of cells in a different direction? I used this in my puzzle, but I wasn't 100% sure if I was correct in assuming that now.


At least it's handy to know submitting in the grace period will always increase your score as no puzzle is worth less than the total penalty.

Edited by Para 2012-02-10 11:57 AM
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Subject: Re: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-10 1:28 PM (#6654 - in reply to #6650) (#6654) Top


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euklid - 2012-02-10 11:40 AM

I don't understand the rules of Tapa Guard. From the example I have a theory. I have repeated rule 2 in a way that it makes sense to me. All changed words are upper-case:

2 - Each digit represents a guard, observing EXACTLY that amount of blackened cells in the corresponding DIRECTION. A digit in an undivided cell MUST observe in AT LEAST ONE of the four directions.


Yes, a digit in an undivided cell should observe in at least one of the 4 direction. It can observe all four directions, or two of them, or three of them; but in any case it has at least one observation.
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Subject: Re: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-10 1:31 PM (#6655 - in reply to #6651) (#6655) Top


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Para - 2012-02-10 11:53 AM

I also had a question about Tapa Guard.

In an undivided cell, if there are equal digits, should each observe that amount of cells in a different direction? I used this in my puzzle, but I wasn't 100% sure if I was correct in assuming that now.


At least it's handy to know submitting in the grace period will always increase your score as no puzzle is worth less than the total penalty.


I didn't use that you mentioned clue type in competition puzzles. All undivided clue cell has only one digit.
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Subject: Re: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-10 9:14 PM (#6659 - in reply to #6611) (#6659) Top




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I hope it's not too late. IB with Chinese translation can be downloaded here

Edited by Minfang Lin 2012-02-10 9:14 PM
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Subject: Re: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-10 10:35 PM (#6660 - in reply to #6642) (#6660) Top




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close to tapaniye
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Subject: Re: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-10 11:59 PM (#6661 - in reply to #6660) (#6661) Top


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anurag - 2012-02-10 10:35 PM

close to tapaniye


Exactly!
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Subject: Re: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-11 2:28 AM (#6664 - in reply to #6659) (#6664) Top


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Minfang Lin - 2012-02-10 9:14 PM

I hope it's not too late. IB with Chinese translation can be downloaded here
Thank you.


A perfect way to welcome TVC and CTC.
(Ah, this is a standard LITS puzzle from Prasanna)
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Subject: Re: TVC IX — 11th-12th February @ 2012-02-11 3:57 AM (#6671 - in reply to #6664) (#6671) Top


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