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swaroop2011
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Country : India | nice :) |
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Country : India | Logic Masters India announces Parallel Universe II — April Puzzle Test
Dates : 25 th — 28 st April (It will be starting earlier than usual LMI tests, and will be open for little longer as well )
Instructions Booklet and Submission : here
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auroux
Posts: 145
Country : France | auroux posted @ 2014-04-22 4:36 AM Hahaha! Now I understand the whole point of the "parallel universe" thing! This is probably going to be my favorite birthday present this year :) Thanks so much Prasanna! |
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swaroop2011
Posts: 668
Country : India | In similar eggs, it says 0 or 1 white circles, so does that mean two given white circles cant be in same island ? |
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chaotic_iak
Posts: 241
Country : Indonesia | swaroop2011 - 2014-04-22 8:37 AM
In similar eggs, it says 0 or 1 white circles, so does that mean two given white circles cant be in same island ?
Yes, no two white circles are on the same island, according to my interpretation. (Otherwise Prasanna should have written "white cells cannot be passed by the snake" period, without saying anything about the number of them in an island. )
auroux - 2014-04-22 7:36 AM
Hahaha! Now I understand the whole point of the "parallel universe" thing! This is probably going to be my favorite birthday present this year :) Thanks so much Prasanna!
I still don't understand. : ( From what I see, the two tests simply have a common theme, but what other point? |
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Puzlifouk
Posts: 67
Country : France | Hello,
This new contest looks very exciting. But as I am a beginner, I can only hope to solve 3 or 4 problems in the allotted time. Is it possible, for this contest as for the other ones, to provide a decreasing system of points, encouraging to continue to look for other problems after the end of the planned 121 minutes? Thank you in advance. |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | swaroop2011 - 2014-04-22 5:37 AM
In similar eggs, it says 0 or 1 white circles, so does that mean two given white circles cant be in same island ?
Yup thats exactly what it means. |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | auroux - 2014-04-22 4:36 AM
Hahaha! Now I understand the whole point of the "parallel universe" thing! This is probably going to be my favorite birthday present this year :) Thanks so much Prasanna!
Is it your birthday on 25th? Either way, I'm glad that this has been timed as such for you. : ) |
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forcolin
Posts: 172
Country : ITALY | a question about STILO
all BLACK cells are connected to each other. Should the WHITE cells be connected as well? |
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swaroop2011
Posts: 668
Country : India | forcolin - 2014-04-23 3:00 AM
a question about STILO
all BLACK cells are connected to each other. Should the WHITE cells be connected as well?
i think its not otherwise it would have been mentioned.
Connectivity rule is applicable only for shaded cells : ) |
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Para
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Country : The Netherlands | Para posted @ 2014-04-23 5:38 AM |
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devarajand
Posts: 114
Country : India | In STILO should the adjacent shapes be different from each other when touched orthogonal.
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prasanna16391
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Country : India | devarajand - 2014-04-23 12:07 PM
In STILO should the adjacent shapes be different from each other when touched orthogonal.
Yes.
The base rules are - When two “shapes” (tetrominoes formed by a group of 4 continuous cells ) in adjacent regions
share an edge, they must not be of the same type, regardless of rotations or reflections.
In LITS, the shapes must be formed by shaded cells within a region and in STILO, by unshaded cells, but in both, the shaded cells must be connected throughout the grid. |
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Country : India | Practice puzzles from "their" Prasanna now available at submission page.
Note that, an updated version was uploaded around 9AM IST (3:30 AM GMT ) on 24th.
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chaotic_iak
Posts: 241
Country : Indonesia | From which universe's Prasanna? :P |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | chaotic_iak - 2014-04-24 6:42 AM
From which universe's Prasanna? :P
Oh theirs, of course. I'm too busy right now to do this. |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | Note about Practice - The Kakuro probably needs a 40 clue on Row 2 to work logically. The new PDF will be uploaded in a while, with the change. |
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Country : India | prasanna16391 - 2014-04-24 8:06 AM
Note about Practice - The Kakuro probably needs a 40 clue on Row 2 to work logically. The new PDF will be uploaded in a while, with the change. Uploaded. |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | The Contest start-time has been changed due to administrative constraints
The new start time is 9:30 PM IST (4 PM GMT) on 24th, i.e., in about 23 minutes.
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Kota
Posts: 33
Country : Japan | Kota posted @ 2014-04-24 9:24 PM >Prasanna
In Practice,
Akichiwake, r6c3 is not 9 but 7?
Syuma, why mustn't two cells at the lowest and left be passed? |
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Kota
Posts: 33
Country : Japan | Kota posted @ 2014-04-24 9:26 PM Kota - 2014-04-24 9:24 PM
>Prasanna
In Practice,
Akichiwake, r6c3 is not 9 but 7?
Syuma, why mustn't two cells at the lowest and left be passed?
Sorry, I had a mistake for Syuma's rule. Please forget. |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | Kota - 2014-04-24 9:24 PM
>Prasanna
In Practice,
Akichiwake, r6c3 is not 9 but 7?
Syuma, why mustn't two cells at the lowest and left be passed?
For Akichiwake, there is this line in the rules - There need not be an area equal to this value, the only restriction is there can be no area larger than the
value connected within the region.
The region can basically work without any number but I put in the 9 to illustrate this sentence. The number just shows that there cannot be a white area larger than that. |
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chaotic_iak
Posts: 241
Country : Indonesia | Kota - 2014-04-25 12:24 AM
In Practice,
Akichiwake, r6c3 is not 9 but 7?
The number given is not necessarily reached.
EDIT: ... Edited by chaotic_iak 2014-04-24 9:34 PM
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Kota
Posts: 33
Country : Japan | Kota posted @ 2014-04-24 9:44 PM chaotic_iak - 2014-04-24 9:34 PM
Kota - 2014-04-25 12:24 AM
In Practice,
Akichiwake, r6c3 is not 9 but 7?
The number given is not necessarily reached.
EDIT: ...
Thanks for your opinion.
I skipped the words 'maximum possible'... |
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rob
Posts: 170
Country : Germany | rob posted @ 2014-04-25 12:06 AM Whee, some seriously other-universly types here. When I saw the Heyawake variant rules I thought at least it can't be as weird as Hayeweka, but it feels almost as twisted when solving. Thanks for the practice puzzles, by the way! (Is that Kakuro de Ni-keta insanely hard by any chance?) |
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prasanna16391
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Country : India | rob - 2014-04-25 12:06 AM
(Is that Kakuro de Ni-keta insanely hard by any chance?)
I think that type is inherently gonna be hard most of the time, unless the author makes a real effort towards simplifying things (giving more two-cell sums, etc. in the layout, or obviously low sums, neither of which "that" Prasanna did here extensively  ). But yes, this one's a bit hard, and good practice for the high pointer on the test, I feel.
Also, hope you have the changed version with the 40 sum in R2. Just checking to make sure. |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | Note - There are a few slight issues with the score-page (bonuses, and that my testing submissions are still visible) which should hopefully be fixed by tomorrow. |
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rob
Posts: 170
Country : Germany | rob posted @ 2014-04-25 3:28 AM That was fun, thanks!
Hope I remember about unclued snake eggs next time this type shows up... |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | prasanna16391 - 2014-04-25 12:57 AM
Note - There are a few slight issues with the score-page (bonuses, and that my testing submissions are still visible) which should hopefully be fixed by tomorrow.
Fixed. |
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achan1058
Posts: 80
Country : Canada | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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chaotic_iak
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Country : Indonesia | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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MarkFox
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Country : United States | MarkFox posted @ 2014-04-25 8:58 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Way too many puzzles (too little time) | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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bob
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Country : United States | bob posted @ 2014-04-26 2:40 AM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Way too many puzzles (too little time) | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
A lot of truly original puzzle ideas, and they were a lot of fun. Unfortunately there was not enough time to even start many of them, so it seems some of the effort was wasted. I always intend to finish them later but it doesn't always happen. I prefer the marathon/timeless format. The speed demons will still win (with their bonus points ) but other solvers will get a chance to try all the puzzles. |
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deu
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Country : Japan | deu posted @ 2014-04-26 7:42 AM It looks like ending time of this test is shown incorrectly in the submission page, which is contrary to what was announced in this forum.
I'm going to participate on Monday night (or Tuesday early morning) in our time, and I'd like to know if this is possible. |
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Country : India | deu - 2014-04-26 7:42 AM
It looks like ending time of this test is shown incorrectly in the submission page, which is contrary to what was announced in this forum.
I'm going to participate on Monday night (or Tuesday early morning) in our time, and I'd like to know if this is possible. Fixed the incorrect end time. |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2014-04-26 3:20 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Way too many puzzles (too little time) | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2014-04-26 4:05 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2014-04-26 5:03 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2014-04-26 6:39 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Gotroch
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Country : Czech Republic | Gotroch posted @ 2014-04-26 7:05 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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greenhorn
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Country : Slovakia | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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tamz29
Posts: 225
Country : Thailand | tamz29 posted @ 2014-04-27 1:11 AM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Too few pages / too small grids | |
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Realshaggy
Posts: 69
Country : Germany | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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auroux
Posts: 145
Country : France | auroux posted @ 2014-04-27 5:18 AM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
Very nice test Prasanna! The variants were really interesting. |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2014-04-27 9:57 AM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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macherlakumar
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Country : India | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
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kishy72
Posts: 419
Country : India | kishy72 posted @ 2014-04-27 7:38 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many hard puzzles | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
Good puzzles again with the fun quotient of this test standing right at the top. Thanks Prasanna for a great set of puzzles!! |
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xevs
Posts: 43
Country : Japan | xevs posted @ 2014-04-27 8:01 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
5 times broke in the Kakuro de Niketa...
That's one of my worst puzzle in the world. Edited by xevs 2014-04-27 8:03 PM
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Grizix
Posts: 30
Country : France | Grizix posted @ 2014-04-28 4:23 AM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many medium difficult puzzles | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Way too many puzzles (too little time) | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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kiwijam
Posts: 187
Country : New Zealand | kiwijam posted @ 2014-04-28 4:06 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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rajeshk
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Country : India | rajeshk posted @ 2014-04-28 6:48 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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auroux
Posts: 145
Country : France | auroux posted @ 2014-04-29 4:38 AM Wow. Very impressive performance Ken -- you killed the contest!
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WA1729
Posts: 65
Country : United States | WA1729 posted @ 2014-04-29 5:18 AM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Joo M.Y
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Country : South Korea | Joo M.Y posted @ 2014-04-29 7:25 AM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
Well done! |
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Zormac
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Country : Hungary | Zormac posted @ 2014-04-29 12:48 PM | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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wgryciuk
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Country : Poland | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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greenhorn
Posts: 164
Country : Slovakia | Nice test, thanks a lot. It is hard to believe that someone could finnish this test in 66 minutes, amazing!
My result also surprised me, I even guessed 3 of 4 letters of the Pentomino variant in the last seconds of contest, with almost empty grid :) |
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Country : India | Password removed and solutions appended to the puzzle booklet. |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | Parallel Universe II is over.
Our Universe Prasanna - Congrats to EKBM for an amazing performance. I can honestly say I never expected someone to be that fast on this set, but the best solvers of the world never cease to amaze. deu (2nd in the Sudoku leg too!) and Nikola took the 2nd and 3rd spots with impressive performances in their own right. Also, congrats to Rajesh for topping the Indian rankings but for me Kishore was the pleasant surprise here, good performance by him to achieve the 2nd best Indian score. The participation for this test wasn't high like Parallel Universe, but the ones who did seemed to enjoy it and that's the important part.
The highest rated puzzles were Fill-Other-Mino (which has a rating of 9.44, but it should be noted that it has the least number of participants rating it), Kakuro DNK, Star Wars, Akichiwake and Pata-Like Loop. It's been a really fun 2 weeks putting together a theme like this one, where I had to come up with variant ideas that were suitable replacements (for the first contest) and inverts (for the second contest), and I'm glad that everyone who came along on the ride enjoyed it too. I actually had a lot of ideas I didn't use, so maybe I'll revisit this general idea in the future. It's always a fun thought process for me to think "what if this was the version of things".
Thanks to my testers Tiit and Vladimir, for some really good feedback, and again, for testing within the short time span I gave them.
Thank you all for participating!
Their Universe Prasanna - *speechless about EKBM's performance* Anyway, it's been a fun 2 weeks for me too to discover the weird variants and puzzles that you guys solve and also to represent my side of things. Maybe our universes will collide again in the future... Until then, Happy puzzling! |
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EKBM
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Country : Japan | EKBM posted @ 2014-05-01 9:10 PM Thank you for the test, Prasanna. Not perfect, but smooth in most puzzles.
Thanks to Kota for telling me that 2 cell words cannot be 2-digit numbers in Ni-keta, and also to PS for practice puzzles, which told me I was misunderstanding its rule (example don't require this restriction). Otherwise the last one had costed me an hour! |
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Grizix
Posts: 30
Country : France | Grizix posted @ 2014-05-14 8:44 PM Hi !
Despite the fact that I only found the time to complete 5 puzzles, I really enjoyed this test, and still am. But there's one puzzle that I cannot manage to start.
Can someone give me a hint about the break in the Snake puzzle ? (the one from our universe) |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | Grizix - 2014-05-14 8:44 PM
Hi !
Despite the fact that I only found the time to complete 5 puzzles, I really enjoyed this test, and still am. But there's one puzzle that I cannot manage to start.
Can someone give me a hint about the break in the Snake puzzle ? (the one from our universe)
Hey,
The intended start is to see limitations around the top right. What happens if R4C10 is an island cell? Figuring that out is the difficult part. After that it should flow. |
Parallel Universe II — April Puzzle Test — 25th-28th April