Converse and Twisted Classics - 17th to 21st May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier
@ 2019-05-10 12:26 AM (#26983) (#26983) Top

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Link for rules and other details about Sudoku Mahabharat : http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/2019sm.asp
Instructions for Converse and Twisted Classics - http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/201905/

@ 2019-05-15 11:45 PM (#26986 - in reply to #26983) (#26986) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2019-05-15 11:45 PM

Instruction Booklet


Instruction Booklet is now available here: http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/201905/

Points Table shall be updated before contest starts.

@ 2019-05-16 12:10 AM (#26987 - in reply to #26983) (#26987) Top

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mstang posted @ 2019-05-16 12:10 AM

In 0-5/0-8 Difference Sudoku, are all possible dots given (in each box)? So for each box, two cells have a dot between them if and only if the difference of the digits is N.

Edited by mstang 2019-05-16 12:12 AM
@ 2019-05-16 1:20 AM (#26988 - in reply to #26987) (#26988) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2019-05-16 1:20 AM

mstang - 2019-05-16 12:10 AM

In 0-5/0-8 Difference Sudoku, are all possible dots given (in each box)? So for each box, two cells have a dot between them if and only if the difference of the digits is N.

Yes. The variant is a part of "Converse". So, all possible dots in each box are given.
@ 2019-05-16 9:53 PM (#26990 - in reply to #26988) (#26990) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2019-05-16 9:53 PM

Updated Instruction Booklet

An updated version of the Instruction Booklet is now available.

Updates:
1) Points Table
2) "All possible circles are given in every box." added to instructions of 0-5 Difference and 0-8 Difference

@ 2019-05-16 10:02 PM (#26991 - in reply to #26983) (#26991) Top

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DanAvi posted @ 2019-05-16 10:02 PM

Is 0-5/0-8 Difference Sudoku a new variant? Shouldn't it be 1-5/1-8 since N can't be 0, or am I missing something?
@ 2019-05-16 10:49 PM (#26992 - in reply to #26983) (#26992) Top

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mstang posted @ 2019-05-16 10:49 PM

N *can* be 0, it's just that there can't be any dots in the corresponding box. (See the examples for evidence of this.)
@ 2019-05-16 11:32 PM (#26993 - in reply to #26991) (#26993) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2019-05-16 11:32 PM

DanAvi - 2019-05-16 10:02 PM

Is 0-5/0-8 Difference Sudoku a new variant? Shouldn't it be 1-5/1-8 since N can't be 0, or am I missing something?
The box with N=0 is like a "classic sudoku" box, with no circles, as difference 0 is not possible.
@ 2019-05-17 9:27 AM (#26995 - in reply to #26983) (#26995) Top

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gaurav.kjain posted @ 2019-05-17 9:27 AM

Enjoy the test folks. All the best.
@ 2019-05-17 12:47 PM (#26996 - in reply to #26993) (#26996) Top

DanAvi



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DanAvi posted @ 2019-05-17 12:47 PM

Thanks for both the replies, it confirmed my line of thinking. I wanted to be absolutely sure, being new to SM.
Also I accept that having 1-8 in the name may imply that each and every box must have atleast one circle, so 0-8 is fine
@ 2019-05-17 1:30 PM (#26997 - in reply to #26983) (#26997) Top

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terekokya posted @ 2019-05-17 1:30 PM

Require more information on the linked line sudoku...?
Which same order is to be followed across the line?
@ 2019-05-17 1:52 PM (#26998 - in reply to #26997) (#26998) Top

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harmeet posted @ 2019-05-17 1:52 PM

The numbers along the line in one grid are in the same order as along the line in the other grid, but from which endpoint of the line you've to look for this order is not predecided and is to be determined as part of solving. Please take a look at linked line example sudokus in the IB.
@ 2019-05-17 4:00 PM (#26999 - in reply to #26983) (#26999) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2019-05-17 4:00 PM

Puzzle Booklet


Password protected Puzzle Booklet is available for download now. The test has started.

http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/201905/

@ 2019-05-17 4:12 PM (#27000 - in reply to #26983) (#27000) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2019-05-17 4:12 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? XV Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2019-05-17 7:49 PM (#27003 - in reply to #26983) (#27003) Top

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vopani posted @ 2019-05-17 7:49 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Linked Line Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Very nice set of sudokus to finish SM for this year. I struggled on the AntiKnight 9x9, but otherwise it was a smooth and enjoyable solve.

Favourite sudokus: Linked Line 9x9, 0-8 Difference, XV 9x9

Thanks Harmeet and Gaurav!

Looking forward to the offline finals.
@ 2019-05-17 11:04 PM (#27004 - in reply to #26983) (#27004) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2019-05-17 11:04 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? 0~(N-1) Difference Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Wonderful finish to SM.
Sad that I couldn't finish it. But the Linked 17 pointer and the Antiknight 9x9 was a grinder for me. Took most of my time in those 2 puzzles. Other puzzles were smooth. My favourite was Difference. I really enjoyed solving that.
Thanks LMI and Authors for wonderful test.
@ 2019-05-18 8:11 AM (#27005 - in reply to #26983) (#27005) Top

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Kwaka posted @ 2019-05-18 8:11 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Anti Knight Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2019-05-18 12:10 PM (#27006 - in reply to #26993) (#27006) Top

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anurag posted @ 2019-05-18 12:10 PM

Any particular aesthetic/symbolic significance other than emphasizing that it has indeed evolved from Classic sudoku?
@ 2019-05-18 2:15 PM (#27007 - in reply to #26983) (#27007) Top

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kishy72 posted @ 2019-05-18 2:15 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? 0~(N-1) Difference Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


A very nice contest to end SM.All sudokus were challenging and very enjoyable.Sadly, I couldn't do my best because of breaking sudokus far too often with minor errors and being engaged by guests for a couple of minutes at the start didn't help either.Ironically,I needed those minutes to finish the 2 left out 1 pointers.Arrghh frustrating.....I expect my score to fall out of Indian podium as there are many good and fast classic solvers from India.

To conclude, a tremendous contest superbly constructed.My favourites are 0-8 difference (12 points) and Anti knight (12 points)

Thanks a lot Harmeet and Gaurav for a very enjoyable round.
@ 2019-05-18 6:22 PM (#27008 - in reply to #26983) (#27008) Top

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MrLiang posted @ 2019-05-18 6:22 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Linked Line Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


@ 2019-05-18 7:47 PM (#27009 - in reply to #26983) (#27009) Top

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pranavmanu posted @ 2019-05-18 7:47 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Linked Line Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Thanks to Harmeet and Gaurav for some fantastic sudokus.The set was really a tricky one.I broke both the Linked Line 9*9 and the Differences 9*9 after spending arund 10 - 15 mins on each,and that effectively ended my contest.
I felt the Anti Knight was a monster and deserved more points.
Really good quality set,and a horribly disappointing end to SM 2019 for me.

No clear favourites in this round,although if i had to pick one,it would be the Linked Line 9*9.
@ 2019-05-19 1:09 AM (#27010 - in reply to #26983) (#27010) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2019-05-19 1:09 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Linked Line Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


@ 2019-05-19 6:27 AM (#27011 - in reply to #26983) (#27011) Top

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mstang posted @ 2019-05-19 6:27 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Classic Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


The variant 9x9s were really hard for me; I got only the Antiknight after some guessing. It might have been unwise to start with all the Classics. I'm disappointed in my result, unfortunately.

Edited by mstang 2019-05-19 6:44 AM
@ 2019-05-19 5:57 PM (#27012 - in reply to #26983) (#27012) Top

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TiiT posted @ 2019-05-19 5:57 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? 0~(N-1) Difference Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


In my opinion AK wasn,t worth so little points. It was a very tough puzzle. But there is a chance that I missed some trick there. Anyway the test was very nice!
@ 2019-05-19 10:21 PM (#27013 - in reply to #26983) (#27013) Top

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udoroh posted @ 2019-05-19 10:21 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Classic Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2019-05-20 9:33 AM (#27016 - in reply to #26983) (#27016) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2019-05-20 9:33 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? 0~(N-1) Difference Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2019-05-20 10:58 AM (#27017 - in reply to #26983) (#27017) Top

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purifire posted @ 2019-05-20 10:58 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? 0~(N-1) Difference Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


I just loved this test. Kudos to Gaurav and Harmeet. I just loved the 0-N difference sudoku. Linked was time consuming but really well crafted. Great job guys.
@ 2019-05-21 1:12 AM (#27018 - in reply to #26983) (#27018) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2019-05-21 1:12 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Overlapping Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2019-05-21 2:19 AM (#27019 - in reply to #26983) (#27019) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2019-05-21 2:19 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Classic Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2019-05-21 3:21 PM (#27020 - in reply to #26983) (#27020) Top

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vijaya_rajan posted @ 2019-05-21 3:21 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Overlapping Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


I am thrilled that I managed to complete all classics and all 6x6 variants. I expected to struggle with the 0-5 but found the xv 6x6 quite difficult. I feel motivated by this peformance, usually I end each test with a vow never to attempt another !!
@ 2019-05-21 6:10 PM (#27021 - in reply to #26983) (#27021) Top

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Kumaresan R posted @ 2019-05-21 6:10 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Linked Line Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2019-05-22 3:18 PM (#27024 - in reply to #26983) (#27024) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2019-05-22 3:18 PM

Congratulations to Seungjae Kwak, Jakub Ondrousek and Tiit Vunk for taking the top three places!

Amongst Indian participants, Congratulations to Rohan Rao, Rishi Puri and Kishore Kumar for taking the top 3 places.

Of the 232 participants, 83 were from India and 22 from Japan. Phillip Edwards (Australia) was the first to take the test (ignoring "no submission" cases) while Michael Lee (South Korea) was the last participant to start the test. 25 participants completed the set within the allotted time. The median score of the test was 48.

Thanks Harmeet Singh and Gaurav Kumar Jain for the puzzles!

Participants may share feedback on the results page and rate the puzzles on the contest page.
@ 2019-05-22 3:28 PM (#27025 - in reply to #26983) (#27025) Top

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Braveena posted @ 2019-05-22 3:28 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Overlapping Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2019-05-23 4:27 AM (#27027 - in reply to #26983) (#27027) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2019-05-23 4:27 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Linked Line Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth too much or too little


@ 2019-05-23 1:34 PM (#27028 - in reply to #26983) (#27028) Top

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priyambhushan posted @ 2019-05-23 1:34 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? 0~(N-1) Difference Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2019-05-24 5:44 PM (#27030 - in reply to #26983) (#27030) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2019-05-24 5:44 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Linked Line Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


@ 2019-06-07 5:24 PM (#27092 - in reply to #26983) (#27092) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2019-06-07 5:24 PM

The LMI Sudoku Ratings are updated and available at http://logicmastersindia.com/forum/lmi/ratings/?testType=S