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ashaash11ash
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As the Puzzle types for the linked snake is different than rest of the test, it would be helpful if there is an example for the same, even a small one would do. |
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rob
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Just to confirm, for the loop snake, you put in a snake, and then the puzzle is solvable as a "simple loop"?
For the coded snake, may there be gaps in the set of clues, and is 0 permitted?
For the linked snake, does the masyu white pearl rule extend into the neighbouring quadrants? I.e., if there's a white pearl on the edge, and the snake passes this orthogonally to the grid edge, does the cell in the next grid count as a possible turn?
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vopani
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Good catch. I believe the instructions need to be corrected. The example is correct, the centre will NOT be given.
Just to confirm, for the loop snake, you put in a snake, and then the puzzle is solvable as a "simple loop"?
Yes, that is correct.
For the coded snake, may there be gaps in the set of clues, and is 0 permitted?
The range of numbers possible for the alphabets will be given. Eg: If there are 8 alphabets, range can be 0~7, 1~8, 1~9 (with one missing ), etc. It will be given.
For the linked snake, does the masyu white pearl rule extend into the neighbouring quadrants? I.e., if there's a white pearl on the edge, and the snake passes this orthogonally to the grid edge, does the cell in the next grid count as a possible turn?
The rules apply ONLY to that particular quadrant. The puzzle is such that there won't be any confusion/discrepancy like the example you mentioned :- )
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rob
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Loop Snake: Is the loop necessarily unique? May the loop go through black cells (the given ones, not the snake)?
The loop is not necessarily unique. The loop CANNOT go through given black cells.
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chaotic_iak - 2015-11-04 5:57 AM
Loop Snake: Is the loop necessarily unique? May the loop go through black cells (the given ones, not the snake)?
The loop is not necessarily unique. The loop CANNOT go through given black cells.
However, for this contest, the loop WILL BE unique in all the puzzles, and this has been added to the instructions. |
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Is the solution to #9 on the contest unique? Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems that the top right corner can be done in two ways.
It is unique. Given black cells are NOT part of the snake. |
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achan1058 - 2015-11-07 8:43 PM
Is the solution to #9 on the contest unique? Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems that the top right corner can be done in two ways.
It is unique. Given black cells are NOT part of the snake.
Maybe you can show us a solution which doesn't match the answer key? I cannot see an alternate solution. |
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Thanks ashish for this set.
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I felt as this test anyway doesn't count for ratings, I would have preferred bit more time (90 min test).
Oh it doesn't? That's a pity, why not? |
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swaroop2011 - 2015-11-07 11:43 PM
I felt as this test anyway doesn't count for ratings, I would have preferred bit more time (90 min test).
Oh it doesn't? That's a pity, why not?
Annual contests have never been included in ratings. I'm sure there has been a discussion somewhere hidden deep inside the forums, I don't quite remember now.
Will let someone else answer :- )
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Congratulations to Uvo , EKBM and Rob for top 3 places overall.. Congrats to Prasanna, amit and rajesh for top 3 Indians.
Being for the first time organizing a contest on LMI, it wasn't easy as there were many things to be kept in mind. first of all i would like to apologize to the participants who had to wait a little for the contest to start.
Due to some unforced errors, the competition had to be delayed.
i really thank deb for giving me the opportunity to organize such a contest on LMI. i would like to thank Rakesh for guiding me from the creation of the puzzle till the end of the contest. i would like to thank Rohan, amit and prasanna, who suggested me with some points to note down and helped me to start the contest with no more delay.
At last i would like to thank all who participated in the contest.
The least submitted puzzle was toroidal (big) with 100% correct rate and the tough puzzle according to the correct submission was coded snake (big) with 78% correct submissions. |