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@ 2015-06-27 6:08 AM (#18538 - in reply to #18392) (#18538) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-06-27 6:08 AM

Update - Points distribution published


Please re-download the Instruction booklet which now has the points distribution, or see below.



@ 2015-06-27 6:11 AM (#18539 - in reply to #18392) (#18539) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-06-27 6:11 AM

Demo Page

You can familiarize yourself with the submission system for both paper mode and online mode on this link
http://logicmastersindia.com/2015/ISC_Demo/?online=1

This is repeated post, but if you are going to participate for the first time, we strongly advise you to visit the demo page and understand how it is working.
After the timing for ISC starts, the only thing you should be doing is solving the Sudokus, and not figure out how the website works.

@ 2015-06-27 12:38 PM (#18542 - in reply to #18392) (#18542) Top

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cyberx60 posted @ 2015-06-27 12:38 PM

For deficit surplus it's not clear what the rules are for areas with exactly 8 cells. Must the digits 1 - 8 appear or can we not operate under that assumption? In other words, are repeat digits in 8 cell areas forbidden? Thanks.
@ 2015-06-27 12:41 PM (#18543 - in reply to #18542) (#18543) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-06-27 12:41 PM

cyberx60 - 2015-06-27 12:38 PM

For deficit surplus it's not clear what the rules are for areas with exactly 8 cells. Must the digits 1 - 8 appear or can we not operate under that assumption? In other words, are repeat digits in 8 cell areas forbidden? Thanks.

Right, there is an ambiguity.
The rule should be "In regions with less than or equal to 8 cells, digits should not repeat"
@ 2015-06-27 1:45 PM (#18544 - in reply to #18392) (#18544) Top

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vopani posted @ 2015-06-27 1:45 PM

@ 2015-06-27 3:47 PM (#18545 - in reply to #18544) (#18545) Top

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sanket.saxena posted @ 2015-06-27 3:47 PM

Hi Rohan,

In your filler sudoku,total shaded cells should be 45, its 44 here and 5 is appearing only 4 times in shaded cells
@ 2015-06-27 3:52 PM (#18546 - in reply to #18545) (#18546) Top

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vopani posted @ 2015-06-27 3:52 PM

sanket.saxena - 2015-06-27 3:47 PM

Hi Rohan,

In your filler sudoku,total shaded cells should be 45, its 44 here and 5 is appearing only 4 times in shaded cells

Yes, I missed a shaded cell. Its fixed now.
@ 2015-06-27 4:14 PM (#18547 - in reply to #18392) (#18547) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2015-06-27 4:14 PM

Here's a nice Triomino Sudoku I just solved by Ashish Kumar - https://solvetheunsolvable.wordpress.com/2015/06/27/puzzle-38-triomi...

Note that its pretty difficult though.
@ 2015-06-27 4:50 PM (#18548 - in reply to #18392) (#18548) Top

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doku posted @ 2015-06-27 4:50 PM

Yeah its very tough please someone provide any solving tips.
and about odd even view what are its basic solving strategy
@ 2015-06-27 5:22 PM (#18549 - in reply to #18547) (#18549) Top

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vopani posted @ 2015-06-27 5:22 PM

prasanna16391 - 2015-06-27 4:14 PM

Here's a nice Triomino Sudoku I just solved by Ashish Kumar - https://solvetheunsolvable.wordpress.com/2015/06/27/puzzle-38-triomi...

Note that its pretty difficult though.

Really enjoyed solving this one. Well constructed.
@ 2015-06-27 5:32 PM (#18550 - in reply to #18548) (#18550) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2015-06-27 5:32 PM

doku - 2015-06-27 4:50 PM

Yeah its very tough please someone provide any solving tips.
and about odd even view what are its basic solving strategy


Triomino (specifically Ashish's) - Note exit points for corner boxes. If a triomino 'goes out' of the corner box, there needs to be another place where it 'comes in' to make up the numbers. So if there aren't two exit points, the box must contain the entire triomino within itself. As a general tip for this variant I suggest having two sets of markings, one for cells which will contain a Triomino, and the other for cells which must contain digits (which isn't necessarily limited to just the cells with givens/solved digits).

Odd Even View - Where there are two clues, the rules force one of those clues to be in the first cell from that direction. If there is a side that is entirely double-clued like the example in the Instructions booklet, then whatever digit occurs only once (e.g. 8) needs to be in the first cell of that direction, since, using the first sentence, it can't be anywhere else. Also, as a general tip here, it is useful to have two sets of markings, one for 'cell containing odd digit' and another for 'cell containing even digit', these can be useful without placing a digit at all. For instance if you solve the IB one, you should get 2 in R9C1 which forces R7R8R9C3 to be odd and that can be marked to keep track.

@ 2015-06-27 5:57 PM (#18551 - in reply to #18550) (#18551) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2015-06-27 5:57 PM

prasanna16391 - 2015-06-27 5:32 PM

Note exit points for corner boxes. If a triomino 'goes out' of the corner box, there needs to be another place where it 'comes in' to make up the numbers. So if there aren't two exit points, the box must contain the entire triomino within itself.



Actually, generally speaking, all boxes must have 0, 2 or 3 exit points. No box can have 1 exit point.
@ 2015-06-27 6:22 PM (#18552 - in reply to #18392) (#18552) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2015-06-27 6:22 PM

Posted one Odd Even View Sudoku for practice
http://www.funwithpuzzles.com/2015/06/odd-even-view-sudoku.html

@ 2015-06-27 8:20 PM (#18554 - in reply to #18552) (#18554) Top

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purifire posted @ 2015-06-27 8:20 PM

rajeshk - 2015-06-27 6:22 PM

Posted one Odd Even View Sudoku for practice
http://www.funwithpuzzles.com/2015/06/odd-even-view-sudoku.html



For a moment I thought it was the same puzzle as in the IB. The clues are positioned the same and there is also that pair of 1 and 4 on the left side :)

Rishi
@ 2015-06-27 8:22 PM (#18555 - in reply to #18392) (#18555) Top

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AS2476 posted @ 2015-06-27 8:22 PM

Hi Not able to submit the answers. its says submission before 28th june 1645hrs will only be considered
@ 2015-06-27 8:24 PM (#18556 - in reply to #18392) (#18556) Top

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AS2476 posted @ 2015-06-27 8:24 PM

Hi, am not able to submit the answers, i guess the answers submitted before 28th june 1645 hrs will only be considered.
@ 2015-06-27 8:56 PM (#18557 - in reply to #18556) (#18557) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2015-06-27 8:56 PM

AS2476 - 2015-06-27 8:24 PM

Hi, am not able to submit the answers, i guess the answers submitted before 28th june 1645 hrs will only be considered.


Competition booklet isn't released yet, so not sure what answers you want to submit. If its the demo page answers, please check that you are on this link -
http://logicmastersindia.com/2015/ISC_Demo/?online=1
And not this one -
http://logicmastersindia.com/2015/ISC/?online=1

The second one will only be active tomorrow during competition time.
@ 2015-06-27 10:39 PM (#18558 - in reply to #18392) (#18558) Top

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ConfigurationsBeauty posted @ 2015-06-27 10:39 PM

Can I solve some on Paper and key in the marked rows/columns and use LMI interface for some?
@ 2015-06-27 11:06 PM (#18559 - in reply to #18558) (#18559) Top

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rvarun posted @ 2015-06-27 11:06 PM

ConfigurationsBeauty - 2015-06-27 10:39 PM

Can I solve some on Paper and key in the marked rows/columns and use LMI interface for some?


Yes. Of course.
@ 2015-06-28 12:26 AM (#18560 - in reply to #18392) (#18560) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2015-06-28 12:26 AM

@ 2015-06-28 7:05 AM (#18562 - in reply to #18560) (#18562) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-06-28 7:05 AM

Sudoku booklet uploaded

• Password protected Sudoku booklet has been uploaded
• It has 12 pages
• There is no cover page or points table
• Individual puzzles will have points and instructions shown next to the grid. Example will not be shown.
• Page 3 will have only Expanded Sudoku. Pages 4-5 will have four 6X6 Sudokus each. All other pages will have two Sudoku grids.

@ 2015-06-28 11:58 AM (#18563 - in reply to #18392) (#18563) Top

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Hemant Kr Malani posted @ 2015-06-28 11:58 AM

I'm not able to find the sudoku booklet.
@ 2015-06-28 12:01 PM (#18564 - in reply to #18563) (#18564) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-06-28 12:01 PM

Hemant Kr Malani - 2015-06-28 11:58 AM

I'm not able to find the sudoku booklet.


@ 2015-06-28 12:39 PM (#18565 - in reply to #18562) (#18565) Top

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kishy72 posted @ 2015-06-28 12:39 PM

Administrator - 2015-06-28 7:05 AM

Sudoku booklet uploaded

• Password protected Sudoku booklet has been uploaded
• It has 12 pages
• There is no cover page or points table
• Individual puzzles will have points and instructions shown next to the grid. Example will not be shown.
• Page 3 will have only Expanded Sudoku. Pages 4-5 will have four 6X6 Sudokus each. All other pages will have two Sudoku grids.



Remember that only the password protected sudoku Booklet has been uploaded and the password to open it will be accessible only at 2PM IST.So don't panic ,if new users are able to download the booklet but unable to open it before 2PM.

Good luck to all!!

Kishore
@ 2015-06-28 12:48 PM (#18567 - in reply to #18460) (#18567) Top

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aakash posted @ 2015-06-28 12:48 PM

Is wrapping considered in Search 9
For Instruction booklet sudoko 25) can I conclude row8-col9 can only be 1/2 ... If sudoko wrapping allowed, then it can be 1/2/6/7


Edited by aakash 2015-06-28 12:48 PM
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