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Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January
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Subject: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-20 9:37 PM (#14142) (#14142) Top


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Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-20 9:39 PM (#14143 - in reply to #14142) (#14143) Top


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Logic Masters India announces January Sudoku Test - Special 8

Dates : 25th — 27th Jan

Instruction Booklet & Submission : Link

Authors : Gabriele Simionato – Zuino Giochi

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Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-21 3:04 AM (#14145 - in reply to #14143) (#14145) Top




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So in puzzle 16 , all symbols are given?
Gabrieleud
Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-21 3:51 AM (#14147 - in reply to #14145) (#14147) Top


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tamz29 - 2014-01-21 3:04 AM

So in puzzle 16 , all symbols are given?


Yes, all symbols are given
achan1058
Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-21 5:24 AM (#14149 - in reply to #14147) (#14149) Top




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Isn't it supposed to be "Wood", not "Snow"?
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Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-21 10:09 AM (#14150 - in reply to #14149) (#14150) Top


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No online solving

LMI's solving interface does not support some of the sudokus (e.g. Dragons, Eight Fit). To some extent, REALLY LATIN SQUARE will also be difficult to solve online with pencil marks overriding the given symbols.

So, online solving will not be available for this Sudoku test.

Gabrieleud
Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-21 6:12 PM (#14151 - in reply to #14149) (#14151) Top


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achan1058 - 2014-01-21 5:24 AM

Isn't it supposed to be "Wood", not "Snow"?


Well... you are right. That was the original idea

But the kanji (or hanzi, for chinese readers) for "wood, tree" is far too similar to "water" or "fire" and "earth" to a non-trained eye. This could have been a disadvantage for players who are not used to read ideograms.
So I decided myself for using a kanji that looks different in shape to the others.
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Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-22 10:24 AM (#14156 - in reply to #14151) (#14156) Top




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Gabrieleud - 2014-01-21 6:12 PM

achan1058 - 2014-01-21 5:24 AM

Isn't it supposed to be "Wood", not "Snow"?


Well... you are right. That was the original idea

But the kanji (or hanzi, for chinese readers) for "wood, tree" is far too similar to "water" or "fire" and "earth" to a non-trained eye. This could have been a disadvantage for players who are not used to read ideograms.
So I decided myself for using a kanji that looks different in shape to the others.


Reference for who have interested in Kanji:



(kanji.jpg)



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Gabrieleud
Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-22 8:09 PM (#14157 - in reply to #14142) (#14157) Top


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Hello Yuhei, nice seeing you partecipating in this competition. And thanks for the visual contribution!
kishy72
Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-22 8:46 PM (#14158 - in reply to #14157) (#14158) Top


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Can the duration of this test be extended by 8+8+8+8 mins?
devarajand
Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-23 3:23 PM (#14161 - in reply to #14150) (#14161) Top




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At least where possible on line solving be permitted
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Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-23 4:20 PM (#14162 - in reply to #14158) (#14162) Top


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kishy72 - 2014-01-22 8:46 PM

Can the duration of this test be extended by 8+8+8+8 mins?


Having test solved it, I think 88 minutes is suitable for this one.
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Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-23 4:27 PM (#14163 - in reply to #14161) (#14163) Top


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devarajand - 2014-01-23 3:23 PM

At least where possible on line solving be permitted


Unfortunately, time constraints play a part in these things too. We will certainly consider enabling partial online solving in the future, but it's a bit too late to prepare it for this test. Please make do this time.
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Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-24 12:22 PM (#14169 - in reply to #14142) (#14169) Top




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In the first puzzle it has said, that there are highlighted 3x3 regions and then it says puzzle number 2 and 3 contains digits from 1 to 8. Do we need to keep one cell empty, do we have to expect 2x4 boxes or can we expect the highlighted areas to be irregular?
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Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-24 12:32 PM (#14170 - in reply to #14169) (#14170) Top


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TiiT - 2014-01-24 12:22 PM

In the first puzzle it has said, that there are highlighted 3x3 regions and then it says puzzle number 2 and 3 contains digits from 1 to 8. Do we need to keep one cell empty, do we have to expect 2x4 boxes or can we expect the highlighted areas to be irregular?


2x4 boxes. Normal 8x8 Classic. You're right, the rules aren't completely clear in the IB. Missed that.
Christian
Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-24 3:50 PM (#14171 - in reply to #14147) (#14171) Top




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In puzzle 16 there is a missing symbol, at the bottom, right side : 3-7 is not only odd but also prime
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Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-24 4:34 PM (#14173 - in reply to #14171) (#14173) Top


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Christian - 2014-01-24 3:50 PM

In puzzle 16 there is a missing symbol, at the bottom, right side : 3-7 is not only odd but also prime


You're right, a symbol is missing. Sent an update for the IB. Thanks for your contribution.
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Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-24 7:23 PM (#14174 - in reply to #14142) (#14174) Top




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Two puzzle booklets have been uploaded....which one to download????
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Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-24 7:58 PM (#14175 - in reply to #14174) (#14175) Top


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neerajmehrotra - 2014-01-24 7:23 PM

Two puzzle booklets have been uploaded....which one to download????


You can download either one.
"16 pages test" contains 1 puzzle every page.
"9 pages test" contains 2 puzzles every page, and it's meant to save paper printing at the cost of cell dimensions. Arrow+8 and Symbols puzzles anyway are on a single sheet.
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Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-24 9:33 PM (#14176 - in reply to #14175) (#14176) Top


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WARNING: correction needed to contest puzzle n.16
If you are going to solve puzzle nr 16 before the file is updated, please bear in mind this change.
A symbol was missing in 2nd row, right side. This is the correct layout:



(symbols8.jpg)



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Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-25 12:34 AM (#14179 - in reply to #14142) (#14179) Top


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Announcements

  • New Instruction booklet uploaded.
    Change -
    Classic 8x8 rules are clearer. Example of N.16 Symbols fixed.

  • New Puzzle Booklets uploaded.
    Change - Slight error in puzzle 16 fixed.

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    Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-25 7:03 AM (#14180 - in reply to #14142) (#14180) Top



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     What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? I have a different complaint


    I think including a (bit-map based) logo in every page of the password protected booklet slows down the printing.

    It is better to have no additional frills in the passwod protected booklet, other than just the puzzles/instructions/points. After the test is over, we can put whatever else is desired.
    Gotroch
    Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-25 8:02 AM (#14181 - in reply to #14142) (#14181) Top




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     How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
     What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
     What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
     How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
     What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


    achan1058
    Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-25 8:23 AM (#14182 - in reply to #14142) (#14182) Top




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     How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
     What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
     What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
     How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
     Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
     What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


    kishy72
    Subject: Re: Special 8 — January Sudoku Test — 25th-27th January @ 2014-01-25 4:32 PM (#14184 - in reply to #14182) (#14184) Top


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    i)Can someone give me the start in the example puzzle for symbols?I am just not able to see the breakthrough.It looks as though the puzzle requires a combination of strategies and not just one to rely on.

    ii)In Really Latin square am i right in stating that the following are the conversions possible ? :
    1 - 1234678
    2 - 2378
    3 - 38
    4 - 4
    5 - 45678
    6 - 678
    7 - 78
    8 - 8
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