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WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Italian Round — 29th June - 1st July 201380 posts • Page 1 of 4 • 1 2 3 4
@ 2013-06-18 2:00 PM (#11250) (#11250) Top

Administrator



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Administrator posted @ 2013-06-18 2:00 PM



@ 2013-06-25 2:46 AM (#11360 - in reply to #11250) (#11360) Top

starmusic



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starmusic posted @ 2013-06-25 2:46 AM

I believe the Tripod puzzle in instructions booklet has multiple solutions.
I got the same region outlines and filled the 6 rows as follows: 132546/524631/346125/465312/251463/613254
@ 2013-06-25 1:35 PM (#11375 - in reply to #11250) (#11375) Top

Administrator



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Administrator posted @ 2013-06-25 1:35 PM

Points Table



@ 2013-06-25 4:49 PM (#11376 - in reply to #11360) (#11376) Top

Gabrieleud



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Gabrieleud posted @ 2013-06-25 4:49 PM

The tripod sudoku in the competition will have a single solution anyway.

Edited by Gabrieleud 2013-06-25 4:50 PM
@ 2013-06-26 2:29 AM (#11382 - in reply to #11250) (#11382) Top

Karel Tesar



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Karel Tesar posted @ 2013-06-26 2:29 AM

Let me invite you to practice on Italian WPF Sudoku Grand Prix!

This week we are preparing for you these sudoku variants in our Daily League:
24.06.2013 - Jigsaw Sudoku (practice on WPF GP — Italian Round)
25.06.2013 - Killer Sudoku (practice on WPF GP — Italian Round)
26.06.2013 - Coast to Coast sudoku (practice on WPF GP — Italian Round)
27.06.2013 - The Big Bang Theory Sudoku (practice on WPF GP — Italian Round)
28.06.2013 - 1011 Sudoku (practice on WPF GP — Italian Round)
29.06.2013 - Kropki (practice on WPF GP — Italian Round)
30.06.2013 - Diagonal Sudoku

http://sudokucup.com/content/sudoku-variants
@ 2013-06-29 12:18 AM (#11422 - in reply to #11250) (#11422) Top

TiiT



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TiiT posted @ 2013-06-29 12:18 AM

Does it have any reason, why it starts so late? usually it starts earlier.

Tiit
@ 2013-06-29 2:21 AM (#11423 - in reply to #11250) (#11423) Top

Ours brun




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Ours brun posted @ 2013-06-29 2:21 AM

Hi,

I just noticed what seems to be a small mistake in the answer form: the tripod is announced to be using digits from 1 to 8 but the expected answer seems to be 9 digits long.
@ 2013-06-29 4:02 AM (#11424 - in reply to #11423) (#11424) Top

debmohanty




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debmohanty posted @ 2013-06-29 4:02 AM

Ours brun - 2013-06-29 2:21 AM

Hi,

I just noticed what seems to be a small mistake in the answer form: the tripod is announced to be using digits from 1 to 8 but the expected answer seems to be 9 digits long.
Fixed.
TiiT - 2013-06-29 12:18 AM

Does it have any reason, why it starts so late? usually it starts earlier.

Tiit
I just realized that I made a mistake. Alberto wanted to start the contest at 12:00 AM Italian time. I assumed he wanted to start at 12:00 PM.
So the contest starts now. (2 hours earlier than LMI usually starts.). There won't be any change in ending time.
@ 2013-06-29 4:17 AM (#11425 - in reply to #11424) (#11425) Top

Administrator



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Administrator posted @ 2013-06-29 4:17 AM

Online Solving not available for Tight Fit and Tripod sudoku



Link for online solving : http://logicmastersindia.com/2013/06S2/?online=1

As noted earlier contests, the flash online solving will only allow you to mark / unmark 1-9 on the grids. There is no feature to mark anything else.

Based on previous LMI tests, we think most serious players will solve on paper and not use the online solving interface. However, if you are one of those who plan to use online solving, you must practice first solving the examples using the online interface.

@ 2013-06-29 4:19 AM (#11426 - in reply to #11250) (#11426) Top

Administrator



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Administrator posted @ 2013-06-29 4:19 AM

Announcements - WPF Sudoku GP Italian Round has started

1) Password protected Sudoku booklet has 11 pages. There is no cover page or points table.
2) Link for online solving : http://logicmastersindia.com/2013/06S2/?online=1
3) Link for score page : http://logicmastersindia.com/2013/06S2/score.asp
4) This will be included in LMI monthly ratings, unless you choose not to do so.

@ 2013-06-29 7:44 AM (#11428 - in reply to #11250) (#11428) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2013-06-29 7:44 AM

Bonus Points

Bonus 4 points per minute (computed upto seconds) will be awarded to all players who submit all 24 sudokus correctly, with maximum 1 wrong submission. In case of wrong submission, the sudoku shouldn't be wrong by more than 4 digits.

@ 2013-06-29 2:01 PM (#11429 - in reply to #11250) (#11429) Top

TiiT



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TiiT posted @ 2013-06-29 2:01 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


The tripod had much more worth than the rest. At least for me. Too much guessing and trying to fit the borders and that takes some time if you are just sudoku solver.
@ 2013-06-29 2:09 PM (#11430 - in reply to #11250) (#11430) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-06-29 2:09 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit easy
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Way too many puzzles (too little time)
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too few pages / too small grids


@ 2013-06-29 5:46 PM (#11431 - in reply to #11250) (#11431) Top

greenhorn



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greenhorn posted @ 2013-06-29 5:46 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit easy
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Thanks for a nice contest.
I really liked most of the puzzles and appreciate that there were many totally different types.
But the point distribution was not so good. I have solved the puzzle nr. 24 (55 pts) six times due stupid mistakes, but it takes me still less than BBT sudoku (20 pts) or Coast to Coast (35 pts). Probably Three is a Crowd was the easiest variant of the whole contest.
@ 2013-06-29 5:59 PM (#11432 - in reply to #11250) (#11432) Top

Mahyar




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Mahyar posted @ 2013-06-29 5:59 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-06-29 8:01 PM (#11433 - in reply to #11250) (#11433) Top

volkirik



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volkirik posted @ 2013-06-29 8:01 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-06-29 8:25 PM (#11434 - in reply to #11250) (#11434) Top

Errabee



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Errabee posted @ 2013-06-29 8:25 PM

Thanks a lot for a nice contest, although the puzzles were a bit too easy for my taste. I especially liked the design of the 1011 Sudoku, nicely done!
@ 2013-06-29 10:00 PM (#11435 - in reply to #11250) (#11435) Top

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Gotroch posted @ 2013-06-29 10:00 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-06-29 11:51 PM (#11436 - in reply to #11250) (#11436) Top

Nola



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Nola posted @ 2013-06-29 11:51 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-06-30 12:53 AM (#11437 - in reply to #11429) (#11437) Top

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Fred76 posted @ 2013-06-30 12:53 AM

TiiT - 2013-06-29 2:01 PM

The tripod had much more worth than the rest. At least for me. Too much guessing and trying to fit the borders and that takes some time if you are just sudoku solver.


2 tripods in 2 weeks... 0 points... lot of time lost... please stop with this shit variant in sudoku tests...

Can someone tell me how to start the solving of this one???

Otherwise, thanks for the nice test.

Fred

@ 2013-06-30 1:10 AM (#11439 - in reply to #11250) (#11439) Top

auroux



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auroux posted @ 2013-06-30 1:10 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? A bit skewed
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-06-30 1:12 AM (#11440 - in reply to #11437) (#11440) Top

greenhorn



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greenhorn posted @ 2013-06-30 1:12 AM

Fred76 - 2013-06-30 12:53 AM

2 tripods in 2 weeks... 0 points... lot of time lost... please stop with this shit variant in sudoku tests...

Fred



Why? I was just thinking about brand new Tripod sudoku tournament right here
@ 2013-06-30 1:18 AM (#11441 - in reply to #11440) (#11441) Top

Fred76




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Fred76 posted @ 2013-06-30 1:18 AM

greenhorn - 2013-06-30 1:12 AM

Fred76 - 2013-06-30 12:53 AM

2 tripods in 2 weeks... 0 points... lot of time lost... please stop with this shit variant in sudoku tests...

Fred



Why? I was just thinking about brand new Tripod sudoku tournament right here


without me...
@ 2013-06-30 3:55 AM (#11442 - in reply to #11250) (#11442) Top

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Joo M.Y posted @ 2013-06-30 3:55 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-06-30 8:28 AM (#11443 - in reply to #11250) (#11443) Top

john_reid



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john_reid posted @ 2013-06-30 8:28 AM

 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I would be interested to hear others' opinions on the points distribution on this test. I'm a pretty consistent competitor but certainly not fast enough to have a chance to get through more than about half of the puzzles on most tests within the time limit, so my gameplan is usually to use the points value of puzzles as a guide to decide which ones to try. Most of the time the points offered are pretty accurate - more points will generally mean a puzzle that takes me more time to complete, as it should be. But with this test I really felt like the points were often backwards. I spent a LONG time tackling several of the earlier puzzles that were 20 points or less, only to find after time was up that MANY of the puzzles worth a lot of points were FAR easier - including the 55 pointer which had no logical roadblocks along the solve at all! I know that comments like that are subjective, so I'd like to hear what other solvers' experiences were. Thanks to the constructors for the puzzles, though, they were fun... I was just a little disappointed this time with the points layout.
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