SM 2024 R2 - Odd Even & Hybrids (8th - 14th Mar) Score Discuss
PR 2024 R3 - Evergreens & MII (29th Mar - 4th Apr) has started Discuss
6th WSC & 20th WPC32 posts • Page 1 of 2 • 1 2
@ 2011-05-09 11:40 AM (#4335) (#4335) Top

debmohanty




1000500100100100202020
Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-05-09 11:40 AM




@ 2011-05-09 11:11 PM (#4338 - in reply to #4335) (#4338) Top

Fred76




Posts: 337
10010010020
Country : Switzerland

Fred76 posted @ 2011-05-09 11:11 PM

Damned ! That's not at all the same dates as unofficially announced !
@ 2011-10-22 7:04 PM (#5826 - in reply to #4335) (#5826) Top

debmohanty




1000500100100100202020
Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-10-22 7:04 PM

Puzzles and Sudoku from this years Hungarian Championship.
Part 1,2,3 - Sudoku
Part 4,5,6 - Puzzles

http://users.atw.hu/rejtveny/wscwpc/wscwpc_FAQ.html#Puzzles_from_th...
@ 2011-10-23 4:33 AM (#5827 - in reply to #5826) (#5827) Top

Fred76




Posts: 337
10010010020
Country : Switzerland

Fred76 posted @ 2011-10-23 4:33 AM

debmohanty - 2011-10-22 7:04 PM

Part 1,2,3 - Sudoku


They say "Part 1,2,3,4 - Sudoku". that's what scares me.

Fred
@ 2011-10-23 1:29 PM (#5828 - in reply to #5827) (#5828) Top

debmohanty




1000500100100100202020
Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-10-23 1:29 PM

My mistake. Looks like part 4 (Logidoku) was used for both the championships.
@ 2011-10-23 1:33 PM (#5829 - in reply to #5828) (#5829) Top

debmohanty




1000500100100100202020
Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-10-23 1:33 PM

It is interesting that lot of rounds had same bonus structure as we had in the Sprint test.
@ 2011-10-24 11:38 AM (#5831 - in reply to #5828) (#5831) Top

wicktroll



Posts: 16

Country : Hungary

wicktroll posted @ 2011-10-24 11:38 AM

Indeed, part 4 was used for both championships.
@ 2011-10-28 5:04 PM (#5835 - in reply to #4335) (#5835) Top

debmohanty




1000500100100100202020
Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-10-28 5:04 PM

WSC Instruction booklet is published at http://www.wscwpc.ini.hu/
Direct Link for pdf - http://users.atw.hu/rejtveny/wscwpc/puzzles/IB/WSC_inst.pdf (Size 1.2 MB)
@ 2011-10-29 10:33 PM (#5837 - in reply to #5835) (#5837) Top

purifire




Posts: 460
100100100100202020
Country : India

purifire posted @ 2011-10-29 10:33 PM

Round1 of and 2 do not give a feel of a Sudoku event. Finding out right or wrong sudoku is not the way I would prefer to start a logical puzzle event. Second round reminds me of small jigsaw puzzles I did as a kid where tiles had to be moved 1 place at a time. The other rounds are very interesting and I think there has to be a change in the instructions for the triangle sums sudokus and the word diagonal has to be removed. It has to be only "sum of adjacent cells"

Rishi
@ 2011-10-30 1:44 AM (#5838 - in reply to #5837) (#5838) Top

Fred76




Posts: 337
10010010020
Country : Switzerland

Fred76 posted @ 2011-10-30 1:44 AM

purifire - 2011-10-29 10:33 PM

Round1 of and 2 do not give a feel of a Sudoku event. Finding out right or wrong sudoku is not the way I would prefer to start a logical puzzle event. Second round reminds me of small jigsaw puzzles I did as a kid where tiles had to be moved 1 place at a time. The other rounds are very interesting and I think there has to be a change in the instructions for the triangle sums sudokus and the word diagonal has to be removed. It has to be only "sum of adjacent cells"

Rishi


It took me a while to understand the rule of triangle sums, especially this "diagonally touching neighbours", because we talk about cells that are orthogonally adjacent to the first cell, but diagonally touching themselves. Imagine that you have ..352.. in a row (first row of the example), then, if you remove this "diagonally touching", cell containing the 5 should be grey (because 3+2=5, and both are neighbouring the 5). But it is not the case, because 2 and 3 are not diagonally touching.

Once you understand the rule, I think it's a nice variant !

Fred
@ 2011-10-30 1:50 AM (#5839 - in reply to #5838) (#5839) Top

purifire




Posts: 460
100100100100202020
Country : India

purifire posted @ 2011-10-30 1:50 AM

Fred76 - 2011-10-30 1:44 AM

It took me a while to understand the rule of triangle sums, especially this "diagonally touching neighbours", because we talk about cells that are orthogonally adjacent to the first cell, but diagonally touching themselves. Imagine that you have ..352.. in a row (first row of the example), then, if you remove this "diagonally touching", cell containing the 5 should be grey (because 3+2=5, and both are neighbouring the 5). But it is not the case, because 2 and 3 are not diagonally touching.

Once you understand the rule, I think it's a nice variant !

Fred


I agree Fred... but in the instructions we also have "with its legs facing towards the two neighbours". so the assumption is made the two numbers have to be on the non-hypotenuse sides of the triangle...atleast thats the assumption I made.

The puzzle is interesting, all I am saying is more clarity needed with the instructions. :)

Rishi
@ 2011-10-30 7:16 PM (#5840 - in reply to #4335) (#5840) Top

debmohanty




1000500100100100202020
Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-10-30 7:16 PM

@ 2011-10-30 7:23 PM (#5841 - in reply to #4335) (#5841) Top

debmohanty




1000500100100100202020
Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-10-30 7:23 PM

Note : Official discussion threads where you can expect organizers to reply

WSC - http://www.worldpuzzle.org/wpfforum/read.php?2,541
WPC - http://www.worldpuzzle.org/wpfforum/read.php?2,542
@ 2011-11-08 8:49 AM (#5927 - in reply to #4335) (#5927) Top

debmohanty




1000500100100100202020
Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-11-08 8:49 AM

Looks like the results are not available online, but here are some blogs / forums where some update are available

http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/tcollyer/
http://motris.livejournal.com/155722.html

http://sudokuvariante.forumactif.com/t1273p30-wsc-et-wpc-2011#22047
http://forum.logic-masters.de/showthread.php?tid=3


Here is how Round 2 Sudoku looked like - Thanks Fred

@ 2011-11-08 2:22 PM (#5928 - in reply to #4335) (#5928) Top

debmohanty




1000500100100100202020
Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-11-08 2:22 PM

Some results are now available -

Individuals - http://users.atw.hu/rejtveny/wscwpc/wsc-individual.pdf
Team - http://users.atw.hu/rejtveny/wscwpc/wsc-team.pdf



Edited by debmohanty 2011-11-08 2:29 PM
@ 2011-11-08 4:32 PM (#5929 - in reply to #4335) (#5929) Top

debmohanty




1000500100100100202020
Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-11-08 4:32 PM

@ 2011-11-09 2:14 AM (#5932 - in reply to #5927) (#5932) Top

Fred76




Posts: 337
10010010020
Country : Switzerland

Fred76 posted @ 2011-11-09 2:14 AM

debmohanty - 2011-11-08 8:49 AM

Looks like the results are not available online, but here are some blogs / forums where some update are available

http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/tcollyer/
http://motris.livejournal.com/155722.html

http://sudokuvariante.forumactif.com/t1273p30-wsc-et-wpc-2011#22047
http://forum.logic-masters.de/showthread.php?tid=3


Here is how Round 2 Sudoku looked like - Thanks Fred



Hey, that's my grid, non finished... because I passed my time to try to fix many mistakes... can someone tell me if the pieces I putted are correct, we haven't yet the result of this part...

Fred
@ 2011-11-09 6:12 AM (#5933 - in reply to #5932) (#5933) Top

debmohanty




1000500100100100202020
Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-11-09 6:12 AM

Fred76 - 2011-11-09 2:14 AM

Hey, that's my grid, non finished... because I passed my time to try to fix many mistakes... can someone tell me if the pieces I putted are correct, we haven't yet the result of this part...

Fred

There are too many duplicate placements I can see - D1/E1, C5/C6, A4/A5, G4/H4, G5/H5/H6, ....
But I recall that there was partial points for this round.
@ 2011-11-09 6:17 AM (#5934 - in reply to #4335) (#5934) Top

debmohanty




1000500100100100202020
Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-11-09 6:17 AM

Bit late to post, but Thomas Snyder wins WSC again. This is his 3rd WSC win after Prague & Goa. Congrats Thomas.

Top5 after finals
1. Thomas Snyder (1)
2. Kota Morinishi (4)
3. Tiit Vunk (3)
4. Hideaki Jo (9)
5. Florian Kirch (5)

Bracketed number is the rank before finals.
@ 2011-11-09 6:26 AM (#5935 - in reply to #5934) (#5935) Top

debmohanty




1000500100100100202020
Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-11-09 6:26 AM

If you haven't checked, you must check uvo's live coverage in LMD forum
@ 2011-11-10 2:34 PM (#5940 - in reply to #4335) (#5940) Top

neerajmehrotra



Posts: 328
10010010020
Country : India

neerajmehrotra posted @ 2011-11-10 2:34 PM

Hearties congratulations to Thomas and other winners....
@ 2011-11-11 4:07 AM (#5942 - in reply to #5933) (#5942) Top

Fred76




Posts: 337
10010010020
Country : Switzerland

Fred76 posted @ 2011-11-11 4:07 AM

debmohanty - 2011-11-09 6:12 AM

Fred76 - 2011-11-09 2:14 AM

Hey, that's my grid, non finished... because I passed my time to try to fix many mistakes... can someone tell me if the pieces I putted are correct, we haven't yet the result of this part...

Fred

There are too many duplicate placements I can see - D1/E1, C5/C6, A4/A5, G4/H4, G5/H5/H6, ....
But I recall that there was partial points for this round.


In fact, there aren't duplicate placement: there are cells were I do not place any pieces (because lack of time) and on these you see the background picture (on which we had to place pieces). If you look more closely, you'll see for example that in E1, there is a piece placed, but not in D1. D1 was empty, we see the wrong clue of the background picture (that was very confusing during solving the puzzle).

In fact, all the 59 pieces placed in this puzzle are right, I got 114 points.

Fred
@ 2011-11-11 6:14 AM (#5943 - in reply to #4335) (#5943) Top

debmohanty




1000500100100100202020
Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-11-11 6:14 AM

@ 2011-11-11 6:56 PM (#5945 - in reply to #5932) (#5945) Top

Fred76




Posts: 337
10010010020
Country : Switzerland

Fred76 posted @ 2011-11-11 6:56 PM

debmohanty - 2011-11-08 8:49 AM

Looks like the results are not available online, but here are some blogs / forums where some update are available

http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/tcollyer/
http://motris.livejournal.com/155722.html

http://sudokuvariante.forumactif.com/t1273p30-wsc-et-wpc-2011#22047
http://forum.logic-masters.de/showthread.php?tid=3


Here is how Round 2 Sudoku looked like - Thanks Fred



Here is the starting point:



and here is the solution:



I'll open a new topic to develop some thoughts about this puzzle.

Fred
@ 2011-11-11 7:57 PM (#5946 - in reply to #4335) (#5946) Top

debmohanty




1000500100100100202020
Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-11-11 7:57 PM

Since the photo is taken from an angle, some of the elements are not clear.

If I'm allowed to replace by a letter, have I done a correct translation?
6th WSC & 20th WPC32 posts • Page 1 of 2 • 1 2
Jump to forum :
Search this forum
Printer friendly version