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MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020
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pranavmanu
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-21 8:34 PM (#28369 - in reply to #28338) (#28369) Top




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2020
Location: india
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Five Cells
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Rounding off the PR season with a fantastic set. Perfect difficulty level and a great quality of puzzles. Thoroughly enjoyed!
My favourites were the Pentominous 2, 5 Cells 3, and the Sashigane 1
My only gripe would be that the 3D Rassi Silai borders were hard to distinguish between dotted lines and borders. I did not see a dark border and ended up losing an easy 3 points.
Happy personally to round the SM/PR season off with a satisfying performance :)

Thank you Ashish and Anubhav!
jkong
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-21 10:24 PM (#28370 - in reply to #28338) (#28370) Top




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Location: UK
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Rassi Silai
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


This was fun, thanks! Almost all new types for me, I practiced the Regions puzzles (and they went pretty smoothly).

I found it tricky to remember the letter sequence in Rangoli: I ended up writing out the eight possible arrangements at the top of the page. ('1234' or 'ABCD' would have been easier?)

Rassi Silai seems very interesting, I'll probably have some fun figuring out the intended logical path through them.

Once again thanks for the contest!
GaS
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-22 4:33 AM (#28371 - in reply to #28338) (#28371) Top




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Location: Italy
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Rassi Silai
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


chaotic_iak
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-23 8:21 AM (#28372 - in reply to #28338) (#28372) Top



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Posts: 241
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Location: Indonesia
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Five Cells
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too many pages / too large grids


Very nice puzzles overall; no complaints about the puzzles themselves. Answer keys for Pentominous could have just been lengths of contiguous blocks separated by border segments, like other puzzles. (I get this might be borrowed from Fillomino; I also think Fillomino should go with lengths of contiguous blocks as well, like what I did in WAPC1-2.) I think Pentominous could have also fit on one page.

EDIT: After looking back at the test, I realized I liked the Regions part of the test much better than MII. In fact, I feel every single genre in MII had something that rubbed me off the wrong way: Turnkey felt intuition-heavy, Rangoli seemed like a weird combination of rules (admittedly probably just unused to them), and Rassi Silai still felt like the threads didn't matter. True, there's the addition of numbers and internal borders, but numbers were only used in one puzzle, and the rules of the genre became filled with more things mashed together. It's very possible it's just everything in MII are new (besides Rassi Silai) and that I should face new genres.

Edited by chaotic_iak 2020-06-23 8:32 AM
tamz29
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-23 9:53 AM (#28373 - in reply to #28338) (#28373) Top




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A nice short test. I think we were all strangers to the MII.
I remembered Rassi Silai from WPC2017, but there were no numbers/3-D there so it's a nice expansion to the genre.
I felt the 3-D grids could be squished-horizontally a bit so it didn't look too flat.
The Regions part were filled with high-quality puzzles. Thanks for them!

Extended thanks to everyone involved with this year's PR. I think this is the first time I competed in all 6 sets.
Would like to see the overall ratings updated regularly though.
ABcDexter
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-23 12:41 PM (#28374 - in reply to #28369) (#28374) Top


PR 2020 (MII and Regions) Author

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pranavmanu - 2020-06-21 8:34 PM

Rounding off the PR season with a fantastic set. Perfect difficulty level and a great quality of puzzles. Thoroughly enjoyed!
My favourites were the Pentominous 2, 5 Cells 3, and the Sashigane 1
My only gripe would be that the 3D Rassi Silai borders were hard to distinguish between dotted lines and borders. I did not see a dark border and ended up losing an easy 3 points.
Happy personally to round the SM/PR season off with a satisfying performance :)

Thank you Ashish and Anubhav!


Thank you Pranav :)

Will note down your feedback.
ABcDexter
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-23 12:43 PM (#28375 - in reply to #28370) (#28375) Top


PR 2020 (MII and Regions) Author

Posts: 24
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Location: INDIA
jkong - 2020-06-21 10:24 PM

This was fun, thanks! Almost all new types for me, I practiced the Regions puzzles (and they went pretty smoothly).

I found it tricky to remember the letter sequence in Rangoli: I ended up writing out the eight possible arrangements at the top of the page. ('1234' or 'ABCD' would have been easier?)

Rassi Silai seems very interesting, I'll probably have some fun figuring out the intended logical path through them.

Once again thanks for the contest!


Thanks for your valuable feedback. I do feel that Rangoli should have had ABCD instead of RANG, will alter it accordingly.
puzzler05
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-23 8:21 PM (#28376 - in reply to #28338) (#28376) Top




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Location: korea rep
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Rassi Silai
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


vopani
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-24 12:31 AM (#28377 - in reply to #28338) (#28377) Top


WSPC Organizer

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Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Five Cells
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Too hard doesn't suit this fantastic PR round to end this year. It is one of my favourites across the years.

Favourites: Five Cells 3, Pentominous 1, Rangoli 3

Thanks a lot Anubhav and Ashish!

mstang
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-24 5:00 AM (#28378 - in reply to #28338) (#28378) Top





Posts: 66
202020
Location: USA
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Shashigane
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too many pages / too large grids


TiiT
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-24 2:51 PM (#28380 - in reply to #28338) (#28380) Top




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Location: Estonia
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? 3D Rassi Silai
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Very nice puzzles!
ABcDexter
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-24 3:38 PM (#28381 - in reply to #28338) (#28381) Top


PR 2020 (MII and Regions) Author

Posts: 24
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Location: INDIA
Thanks Tiit, Rohan, Tawan and Ivan.
Glad that you enjoyed the puzzles :)
ropeko
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-24 3:54 PM (#28382 - in reply to #28338) (#28382) Top




Posts: 4

Location: Switzerland
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Five Cells
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


rajeshk
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-24 7:39 PM (#28383 - in reply to #28338) (#28383) Top


WSPC Organizer

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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Five Cells
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


It was nice test. Liked Pentominous and 5 cell puzzles very much. Thanks to Ashish and Anubhav for such nice puzzles.
harmeet
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-24 7:49 PM (#28384 - in reply to #28338) (#28384) Top


SM 2020 (Converse and Odd Even) Author

Posts: 71
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Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Pentominous
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Really enjoyed the puzzles, particularly the new variants Turnkey and Sashigane. Thanks Anubhav and Ashish!
kishy72
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-24 8:12 PM (#28385 - in reply to #28338) (#28385) Top


SM 2020 (Math) Author

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Location: india
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Pentominous
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Nice set of puzzles @Anubhav and Ashish.
Felt I solved very rustily.
Point distribution felt a little bit off.I was mostly able to solve the higher pointers faster than the lower ones. Pentominous 6 felt much harder than the pentominous 10 and the answer keys of this type was laborious to enter.Would have preferred continuous set of cells as answer key in line with other puzzles.

Strangely, the puzzle I practised the most (sashigane) got me nowhere and I couldn't finish even one while the ones I didn't focus much (pentominous and pentominous borders) helped at the end.

Thanks a lot for a fun set !
Administrator
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-24 8:55 PM (#28386 - in reply to #28385) (#28386) Top


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Location: India

Extension


This being the last PR episode for 2020, the test is extended for another 24 hours, based on a request.
It now ends at 11:59 PM (midnight) IST on 25th June.

rakesh_rai
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-24 9:13 PM (#28387 - in reply to #28372) (#28387) Top



Mean Minis (2020) Author

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chaotic_iak - 2020-06-23 8:21 AM

Answer keys for Pentominous could have just been lengths of contiguous blocks separated by border segments, like other puzzles.


kishy72 - 2020-06-24 8:12 PM

the answer keys of this type was laborious to enter.Would have preferred continuous set of cells as answer key in line with other puzzles.


Yes. It would have been easier to enter with lengths of continuous cells. But it also improves the chance to get the right answer key without getting some pentomino parts correctly. This option was considered and then the letter notation was preferred.
rakesh_rai
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-24 9:19 PM (#28388 - in reply to #28369) (#28388) Top



Mean Minis (2020) Author

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pranavmanu - 2020-06-21 8:34 PM

My only gripe would be that the 3D Rassi Silai borders were hard to distinguish between dotted lines and borders. I did not see a dark border and ended up losing an easy 3 points.

tamz29 - 2020-06-23 9:53 AM

I felt the 3-D grids could be squished-horizontally a bit so it didn't look too flat.

Valid points. These will be considered while designing the next 3D puzzle.
In this test, there was actually an attempt to make the solid lines thicker than the dotted lines but probably that distinction was not enough.
priyambhushan
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-24 10:27 PM (#28390 - in reply to #28338) (#28390) Top


PR 2020 (Evergreens) Author

Posts: 33
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Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Five Cells
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


This was a really fun round, with spectacular puzzle quality! it is always great to see new and innovative puzzle types, and all of themexecuted so well :) Great jov by Ashish as usual, and my fellow-new-author-2020 Anubhav! Thank you guys... this was a really enjoyable last round! gonna miss the monthly tests so much now that the 6 rounds are done!
Joo M.Y
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-24 10:53 PM (#28391 - in reply to #28338) (#28391) Top




Posts: 59
2020
Location: South Korea
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Pentominous Borders
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


ABcDexter
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-25 12:00 PM (#28392 - in reply to #28385) (#28392) Top


PR 2020 (MII and Regions) Author

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kishy72 - 2020-06-24 8:12 PM

Nice set of puzzles @Anubhav and Ashish.
Felt I solved very rustily.
Point distribution felt a little bit off.I was mostly able to solve the higher pointers faster than the lower ones. Pentominous 6 felt much harder than the pentominous 10 and the answer keys of this type was laborious to enter.Would have preferred continuous set of cells as answer key in line with other puzzles.

Strangely, the puzzle I practised the most (sashigane) got me nowhere and I couldn't finish even one while the ones I didn't focus much (pentominous and pentominous borders) helped at the end.

Thanks a lot for a fun set !


priyambhushan - 2020-06-24 10:27 PM

This was a really fun round, with spectacular puzzle quality! it is always great to see new and innovative puzzle types, and all of themexecuted so well :) Great jov by Ashish as usual, and my fellow-new-author-2020 Anubhav! Thank you guys... this was a really enjoyable last round! gonna miss the monthly tests so much now that the 6 rounds are done!


Thanks, Kishore and Priyam, happy to know that you really liked the puzzles as well :)
Hopefully, more puzzles coming soon...
An LMI player
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-25 11:36 PM (#28393 - in reply to #28338) (#28393) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Five Cells
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys were horrible
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


rakesh_rai
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-25 11:56 PM (#28394 - in reply to #28393) (#28394) Top



Mean Minis (2020) Author

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For puzzles 1 (turnkey) and 3 (turnkey), all submissions with answer 113,14 and 42,1221 respectively have been considered correct, as the answer key statement can be interpreted in two ways.
Administrator
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 19th to 24th Jun 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-06-26 7:33 AM (#28395 - in reply to #28338) (#28395) Top


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Thanks to the 212 participants from 37 countries. Congratulations to Endo Ken, Walker Anderson and Hideaki Jo for taking the top 3 spots, completing the set in under 40 minutes. Lukasz Kalinowski (Poland) was the first to take the test while Fernando Almazan (Spain) was the last person to start the test. The median score of the test was 72.

Top results for countries with 10+ participants:

India (40): Prasanna Seshadri, Rohan Rao and Swaroop Guggilam
Japan (26): Shinichi Aoki, Tomoya Kimura and Ryotaro Chiba (ranks 3-5)
USA (20): Jeffrey Bardon, Anderson Wang and Michael Tang (ranks 2-4)
Korea (11): Choi Yong Seok, Hyunmo Kang and Yu-jong
Germany (10): Robert Vollmert, Michael Ley and Martin Merker
France (10): Anne Limoges, Denis Auroux and Timothy Doyle
Poland (10): Tomasz Strozak, Tomasz Skalski and Krystian Swiderski

Thanks Anubhav Balodhi and Ashish Kumar for the puzzles!

Participants may share feedback on the results page and rate the puzzles on the contest page.
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