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Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020
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Subject: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-04-24 8:58 PM (#28127) (#28127) Top


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Link for rules and other details about Sudoku Mahabharat : http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/2020sm.asp
Instructions for Converse and Odd Even - http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/202005/

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Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-04-27 7:37 PM (#28133 - in reply to #28127) (#28133) Top


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Instruction Booklet


Instruction Booklet is now available here: http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/202005/

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Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-04-30 1:59 PM (#28146 - in reply to #28127) (#28146) Top


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Updated Instruction Booklet


Updated Instruction Booklet is now available at contest page, and includes point distribution.

Mini Classic: 1, 1, 1, 1
Classic: 6, 4, 4, 3
Consecutive: 2, 10
Anti Knight: 1,16
Odd Even: 1, 11
Odd Even Bridge: 4, 15
Odd Even Queen: 4,15

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Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-04-30 9:41 PM (#28150 - in reply to #28127) (#28150) Top




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Hi, can you please tell me, what mean "two" numbers in Odd Even Queen Sudoku? Or at least schow in solution where this Queens are? Thanks
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Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-04-30 9:50 PM (#28151 - in reply to #28150) (#28151) Top



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delfinik6 - 2020-04-30 9:41 PM

Hi, can you please tell me, what mean "two" numbers in Odd Even Queen Sudoku? Or at least schow in solution where this Queens are? Thanks

In the 6x6 example, the "odd" queen is 1 and the "even" queen is 6.
In the 9x9 example, the "odd" queen is 5 and the "even" queen is 6.
No two queens of the same parity are on the same row, column or diagonal.
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Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-04-30 11:03 PM (#28152 - in reply to #28127) (#28152) Top


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Sudoku Booklet


The encrypted PB (Puzzle Booklet) is available for download now: http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/202005/

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Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-05-01 11:52 PM (#28155 - in reply to #28127) (#28155) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Anti Knight Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Very nice sudokus. The 9x9 variants were challenging but had nice solve paths.
MrLiang
Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-05-02 1:58 AM (#28156 - in reply to #28127) (#28156) Top





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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Odd Even Bridge Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-05-02 7:30 AM (#28157 - in reply to #28127) (#28157) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average


TiiT
Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-05-02 12:45 PM (#28159 - in reply to #28127) (#28159) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Anti Knight Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


My printer is a lack of yellow and therefore it didn't print the shaded squares and circles, odd-even bridges and consecutive bars. The gridlines came out perfectly. I had to redraw everything. Is it solvable issue? Maybe there should be 2 files - one with darker areas and solver can choose which one to pick.

But I know this is actually my problem. Have redrawing everithing since 2 gp rounds back already. Maybe I should buy new yellow toner.
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-05-02 2:47 PM (#28160 - in reply to #28127) (#28160) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Odd Even Queen Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Venkatachalam V
Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-05-02 3:08 PM (#28161 - in reply to #28127) (#28161) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Anti Knight Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth too much or too little


Very nice set of sudokus which I feel will definitely improve the skill set when I complete everything after the test. Thanks to the authors :)

In my opinion, all puzzles were towards the fairly difficult side. I felt consecutive deserves way more than the 10 points allocated. This was the most difficult consecutive I came across.

Then came a moment that I felt, if this has the lowest point allocated among the variants, then every other puzzle would be difficult.

Did not attempt 9 of the 18 sudokus. Its a good thing I came to know that I have so many things to learn and improve myself after this performance.
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Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-05-02 10:01 PM (#28162 - in reply to #28127) (#28162) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Consecutive Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


The quality of the sudokus was great, but I felt the sudokues were a bit on the harder side. I got stuck in the Antiknight for too long (still couldn't finish it) which ruined my test. These are perfect puzzles for untimed solving. Thanks Harmeet and Ramesh for the test!
pranavmanu
Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-05-03 3:34 PM (#28164 - in reply to #28127) (#28164) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Odd Even Bridge Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


Thank you Harmeet and Ramesh for this test.
Was cruising along until i hit the Anti Knight,which was like a brick wall in my path.
Broke the consecutive 3 times and that doomed this round for me.
I didnt like the quality of the puzzles: being forced to guess on many, and especially Anti Knight felt more like a machine generated sudoku. I felt the difficulty was slightly above normal, but acceptably so.
I felt 15 points for Odd even bridge was too much, and that AK could have had more points.
Favourite is probably the Odd Even Bridge 9*9 and the Odd even Queen 6*6

Thank you
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-05-03 4:38 PM (#28165 - in reply to #28162) (#28165) Top


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Spotting a naked single in r2c5 is crucial in the Anti-Knight. It is nice logic but such narrow steps tend to cause high variance in contests :)

Thanks for a fun contest btw Harmeet and Ramesh. My favourites were the Consecutive 9*9 and the Odd Even Bridge 9*9.
kishy72
Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-05-03 6:30 PM (#28166 - in reply to #28127) (#28166) Top


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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Below Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Odd Even Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


Thanks Harmeet and Ramesh for the contest and to Rakesh for the tremendous effort being put round after round.

Anti-Knight took me far too longer than I could have even dreamed.I had to guess on a guess to finish it and it was only due to my lucky stars that I was able to complete it despite bifurcating twice.

When I started on it, I spent around 15 mins and I could hardly see anything logical.After getting stuck, I waited and waited and waited .......for the logic to strike.Nothing came off it.So I guessed on that and even with the guess, I was stuck again.At this point, I decided to move on to salvage some points and tackle it later.

The next debacle came in the form of 10 pointer consecutive. Pushed for time (and a little irritated too) by this point after seeing nothing for a few minutes, I ventured out with a guess on consecutive also.The guess was "kind" enough to lead me to a no solution only after I solved about 60% of the sudoku.So I had to erase completely and again more time wasted than necessary on a mere 10 pointer.

Overall, it feels as if I don't deserve the points that I landed up as my solve in consecutive was completely crappy and my AK solve too wasn't upto the mark and thats what hurts.I guessed on a lot of sudokus.Perhaps, I should have sticked to my strategy and guessed in AK too right at the start somewhere.Also, I felt consecutive & perhaps AK too deserved more points than allotted.

To sum up, a contest I couldn't enjoy much because of the difficulty and the randomness in the solve paths.But seeing the result board tells me a different story and the poor show may entirely be due to my own shorcomings.

Favourites are Odd Even and Classics.
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Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-05-04 3:47 AM (#28167 - in reply to #28159) (#28167) Top




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TiiT - 2020-05-02 7:45 AM

My printer is a lack of yellow and therefore it didn't print the shaded squares and circles, odd-even bridges and consecutive bars. The gridlines came out perfectly. I had to redraw everything. Is it solvable issue? Maybe there should be 2 files - one with darker areas and solver can choose which one to pick.

But I know this is actually my problem. Have redrawing everithing since 2 gp rounds back already. Maybe I should buy new yellow toner.


The alternative is to force your printer to print in greyscale only. Ideally the PDF should be set up like this already so that the user doesn't even have to think about it, rather than saved with any kind of colour profile.

I welcome the lighter shades of grey in the files!
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-05-04 4:46 AM (#28168 - in reply to #28127) (#28168) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Anti Knight Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


vopani
Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-05-04 12:07 PM (#28169 - in reply to #28127) (#28169) Top


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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Odd Even Queen Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Too hard to quantify how good this set is. A very well-balanced set and top quality sudokus. Enjoyed every one of them.

Favourites: 6x6 Odd Even Queen, 6x6 Odd Even Bridge, 9x9 Classic 1

Thanks Harmeet and Ramesh!
purifire
Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-05-04 2:23 PM (#28170 - in reply to #28127) (#28170) Top



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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Consecutive Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


A really good set of puzzles. My favourites were Consecutive and OE Queen 9x9s. Really awesome constructs. I felt the AK could have had a few more points considering the very narrow path. Like Prasanna said, if you get R2C5 then puzzle opens up nicely, if not then you are left staring at the grid. Fortunately or unfortunately, I did not get the number directly and made a guess once I had narrowed it down to 2 possibilities. Am glad made the right choice.

It is really heartening to see such great quality puzzles.Awesome job Harmeet and Ramesh.

Edited by purifire 2020-05-04 2:34 PM
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Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-05-04 7:37 PM (#28171 - in reply to #28127) (#28171) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Odd Even Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Thanks Ramesh and Harmeet for giving good quality puzzles
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Subject: RE: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-05-04 8:16 PM (#28173 - in reply to #28127) (#28173) Top




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Hi sir/madam
after the test has been completed before 90 mins i have clicked submit all answers i don't know whether it has been taken or not. can you confirm it?
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Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-05-04 8:20 PM (#28174 - in reply to #28127) (#28174) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Classic Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


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Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-05-04 8:26 PM (#28175 - in reply to #28127) (#28175) Top


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Hi sir/madam
after the test has been completed before 90 mins i have clicked submit all answers i don't know whether it has been taken or not. can you confirm it?
You can check the Score page and it seems your answers have been submitted.
sarb
Subject: Re: Converse and Odd Even - 1st to 6th May - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-05-04 9:13 PM (#28176 - in reply to #28127) (#28176) Top




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I had been trying to set things up for some days and had changed couple of browsers in the process. But the Start button does not show even for active running contests.
In some it says Plugin not supported and in others it does not even show anything. Could you please tell is it java applet plugin which is being used or something else like Flash?
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