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Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier
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Subject: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-15 10:09 AM (#20267) (#20267) Top


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Link for rules and other details about Puzzle Ramayan : http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/2015-16PR.asp
Instructions for Snakes - http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201512/

mikeylyk
Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-17 2:34 PM (#20272 - in reply to #20267) (#20272) Top




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any practice puzzles? also, i checked every link and couldn't find a tutorial, i'm horrible at snake, help?
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Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-20 7:37 AM (#20290 - in reply to #20267) (#20290) Top


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Logic Masters India announces Snakes - episode 5 of Puzzle Ramayan 2015-16

Dates : 26th - 28th December

Instruction Booklet & Submission : Link

Points table will be published soon.

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Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-20 7:38 AM (#20291 - in reply to #20272) (#20291) Top


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mikeylyk - 2015-12-17 2:34 PM

any practice puzzles? also, i checked every link and couldn't find a tutorial, i'm horrible at snake, help?
We have listed some practice materials at the end of Instructions booklet.
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Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-20 9:51 AM (#20292 - in reply to #20291) (#20292) Top


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mikeylyk - 2015-12-17 2:34 PM

any practice puzzles? also, i checked every link and couldn't find a tutorial, i'm horrible at snake, help?
We have listed some practice materials at the end of Instructions booklet.


You can try the practice material and ask here if you need help with any particular puzzle. I can't immediately think of any site with a tutorial. The general tip for snake is to visualize the rough path forced by the clues and then tweak the finer points. Its more of an intuitive type than a fully logical one.
mikeylyk
Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-21 3:11 PM (#20313 - in reply to #20267) (#20313) Top




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yes, my weakest style of puzzle...any way to generally improve that intuitive aspect, i'd welcome any suggestions on book or video to help improve intuitive thinking, does everyone have to go through a 6-10 year learning curve to excel?
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Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-21 3:45 PM (#20314 - in reply to #20292) (#20314) Top




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prasanna16391 - 2015-12-20 9:51 AM

Its more of an intuitive type than a fully logical one.


For some maybe ;). It really doesn't have to be.
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Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-21 7:32 PM (#20315 - in reply to #20314) (#20315) Top


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Para - 2015-12-21 3:45 PM

prasanna16391 - 2015-12-20 9:51 AM

Its more of an intuitive type than a fully logical one.


For some maybe ;). It really doesn't have to be.


Yea, should've said that's how I generally approach it.
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Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-21 7:35 PM (#20316 - in reply to #20313) (#20316) Top


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mikeylyk - 2015-12-21 3:11 PM

yes, my weakest style of puzzle...any way to generally improve that intuitive aspect, i'd welcome any suggestions on book or video to help improve intuitive thinking, does everyone have to go through a 6-10 year learning curve to excel?


I haven't gone through 6-10 year learning curves (only been solving for 5 years in total), so maybe its just about solving more such puzzles. When I was starting out, I would avoid my weakest puzzle for multiple contests and it just stays a weakness.
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Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-21 10:47 PM (#20317 - in reply to #20267) (#20317) Top


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Points Table

Instruction Booklet is re-uploaded with points table. Here it is for your quick reference.



rob
Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-22 1:24 AM (#20319 - in reply to #20267) (#20319) Top


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For Multiple Snakes, is it really "multiple snakes of different lengths", not "multiple snakes of possibly different lengths"?
mikeylyk
Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-22 7:21 AM (#20321 - in reply to #20314) (#20321) Top




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i wanted to mention that your article on slitherlink patterns is awesome
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Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-22 7:55 PM (#20329 - in reply to #20267) (#20329) Top




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Could anyone please suggest me how to start and proceed for 'Horse snake' and 'Summed snake'?
In the given example of 'Horse snake' on IB I only can find the positions of the Knight capturing cells. Can't proceed after that. And, can the numbered cells be a part of a snake?
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Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-22 8:41 PM (#20330 - in reply to #20329) (#20330) Top


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Swagatam - 2015-12-22 7:55 PM

Could anyone please suggest me how to start and proceed for 'Horse snake' and 'Summed snake'?
In the given example of 'Horse snake' on IB I only can find the positions of the Knight capturing cells. Can't proceed after that. And, can the numbered cells be a part of a snake?


horse snake i have attached a PDF for you to proceed. and for the sum snake. the numbers inside the grid is head and tail of the snake. 1 is the starting point and 21 is the end point indicating the length. the numbers outside indicates the total sum of the snake cells for the particular row it indicates if you draw from 1-21 in the grid.



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Attachments snake.pdf (27KB - 31 downloads)
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Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-22 9:16 PM (#20331 - in reply to #20319) (#20331) Top


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rob - 2015-12-22 1:24 AM

For Multiple Snakes, is it really "multiple snakes of different lengths", not "multiple snakes of possibly different lengths"?


it is possibly different lengths.
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Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-23 8:43 PM (#20342 - in reply to #20331) (#20342) Top



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rob - 2015-12-22 1:24 AM

For Multiple Snakes, is it really "multiple snakes of different lengths", not "multiple snakes of possibly different lengths"?


it is possibly different lengths.

Does that mean there could be more than two snakes with some having equal lengths?
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Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-23 10:13 PM (#20343 - in reply to #20342) (#20343) Top


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ashaash11ash - 2015-12-22 9:16 PM

rob - 2015-12-22 1:24 AM

For Multiple Snakes, is it really "multiple snakes of different lengths", not "multiple snakes of possibly different lengths"?


it is possibly different lengths.

Does that mean there could be more than two snakes with some having equal lengths?

Ya there can be more than 2 snakes with same length
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Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-24 12:36 PM (#20344 - in reply to #20267) (#20344) Top


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Updated IB - Rule for Multiple Snakes removes the statement about lengths of the altogether

>>
? Apply Snake rules; however multiple snakes are there in the grid.
? Head and tail of all snakes are given.
? Different snakes do not touch each other, even diagonally.
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mikeylyk
Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-24 12:36 PM (#20345 - in reply to #20316) (#20345) Top




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i'm at 2 years solving, and still not consistent... i try to practice puzzles as events dictate, but there are always new ones, which i like, but still a lot to learn, i admire you guys so much for your abilities.. normal people have no idea what you guys know and do, amazing... anyway, i will keep practicing, thanks for all you guys do;
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Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-26 1:05 AM (#20352 - in reply to #20267) (#20352) Top


 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Horse Snake
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-26 1:20 AM (#20353 - in reply to #20267) (#20353) Top




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In graffiti snake, can there be 2x2 squares of black cells ?
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Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-26 1:21 AM (#20354 - in reply to #20267) (#20354) Top


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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Toroidal Snake
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Thanks! I had a bit of trouble getting started, and struggled with two or three puzzles (the large standard snake in particular; I had something very close to the solution quickly, but had to get there again slowly). Now to wait and see how much faster other solvers can go.
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Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-26 1:27 AM (#20355 - in reply to #20353) (#20355) Top


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Grizix - 2015-12-26 1:20 AM

In graffiti snake, can there be 2x2 squares of black cells ?
Yes. (Note in Graffiti Snake, black cells refer to non-snake parts. The white cells refer to snake parts, so 2X2 squares of white cells are not allowed)
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Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-26 5:02 AM (#20356 - in reply to #20267) (#20356) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Graffiti Snake
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I suck at snakes, though I do think I did better this time around then I do on average.
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Subject: Re: Snakes - 26th - 28th Dec - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-12-26 6:27 AM (#20357 - in reply to #20267) (#20357) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Graffiti Snake
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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