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@ 2015-11-15 9:20 AM (#19949) (#19949) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-11-15 9:20 AM





Link for rules and other details about Puzzle Ramayan : http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/2015-16PR.asp
Instructions for Regions - http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201511/

@ 2015-11-22 12:46 AM (#20040 - in reply to #19949) (#20040) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-11-22 12:46 AM

The Instruction Booklet is published. The points table will be updated by Tuesday (Nov 24th).
@ 2015-11-22 6:44 AM (#20043 - in reply to #19949) (#20043) Top

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rob posted @ 2015-11-22 6:44 AM

Just to confirm: It is a consequence of the rules of 4/5 Spiral Galaxies that there can not be a 2x2 square.

The example is uniquely solvable without that rule.
@ 2015-11-22 9:17 AM (#20045 - in reply to #19949) (#20045) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-11-22 9:17 AM

Nice variations. Looking forward to it.
@ 2015-11-22 9:17 AM (#20046 - in reply to #20043) (#20046) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2015-11-22 9:17 AM

rob - 2015-11-22 6:44 AM

Just to confirm: It is a consequence of the rules of 4/5 Spiral Galaxies that there can not be a 2x2 square.

The example is uniquely solvable without that rule.

Yes. There cannot be a 2x2 square. as circles are not allowed at intersection of four cells.
@ 2015-11-22 10:32 AM (#20048 - in reply to #20046) (#20048) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2015-11-22 10:32 AM

Spiral Galaxies 4/5's rules aren't very elegant...

Instead of "each region has exactly one circle that is the point of symmetry" and "not all black circles are given" (which are somewhat contradictory), use "if a region contains a black circle then it is the point of symmetry".

Instead of "a black circle may not be on the intersection of four cells", use "regions may not be 2x2 squares".
@ 2015-11-22 9:35 PM (#20057 - in reply to #20048) (#20057) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-11-22 9:35 PM

chaotic_iak - 2015-11-22 10:32 AM

Spiral Galaxies 4/5's rules aren't very elegant...

Instead of "each region has exactly one circle that is the point of symmetry" and "not all black circles are given" (which are somewhat contradictory), use "if a region contains a black circle then it is the point of symmetry".

Instead of "a black circle may not be on the intersection of four cells", use "regions may not be 2x2 squares".

Thanks for the suggestions. We will include these suggestions also while updating the points table in the IB.
@ 2015-11-22 11:20 PM (#20058 - in reply to #20048) (#20058) Top

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Fred76 posted @ 2015-11-22 11:20 PM

chaotic_iak - 2015-11-22 10:32 AM

Instead of "a black circle may not be on the intersection of four cells", use "regions may not be 2x2 squares".


2x2 squares are not the only regions that have the point of symmetry on the intersection of four cells...
@ 2015-11-22 11:36 PM (#20059 - in reply to #19949) (#20059) Top

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mihiryadav posted @ 2015-11-22 11:36 PM

Are there any more examples available from the past tests?

Edited by mihiryadav 2015-11-22 11:36 PM
@ 2015-11-22 11:36 PM (#20060 - in reply to #20058) (#20060) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2015-11-22 11:36 PM

Fred76 - 2015-11-22 11:20 PM

chaotic_iak - 2015-11-22 10:32 AM

Instead of "a black circle may not be on the intersection of four cells", use "regions may not be 2x2 squares".


2x2 squares are not the only regions that have the point of symmetry on the intersection of four cells...

We are talking of regions with 4 or 5 cells only.
@ 2015-11-22 11:37 PM (#20061 - in reply to #20059) (#20061) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2015-11-22 11:37 PM

mihiryadav - 2015-11-22 11:36 PM

Are there any examples available from the past tests?
For which puzzle type?
@ 2015-11-22 11:39 PM (#20062 - in reply to #19949) (#20062) Top

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mihiryadav posted @ 2015-11-22 11:39 PM

For Spiral galaxies 4/5...
@ 2015-11-22 11:46 PM (#20063 - in reply to #20060) (#20063) Top

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Fred76 posted @ 2015-11-22 11:46 PM

rakesh_rai - 2015-11-22 11:36 PM

Fred76 - 2015-11-22 11:20 PM

chaotic_iak - 2015-11-22 10:32 AM

Instead of "a black circle may not be on the intersection of four cells", use "regions may not be 2x2 squares".


2x2 squares are not the only regions that have the point of symmetry on the intersection of four cells...

We are talking of regions with 4 or 5 cells only.


Ah yes, sorry ! I haven't read all the instructions...
@ 2015-11-22 11:48 PM (#20065 - in reply to #20062) (#20065) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2015-11-22 11:48 PM

mihiryadav - 2015-11-22 11:39 PM

For Spiral galaxies 4/5...
It is an exploratory type. I am not sure if it has been there earlier as part of any contest. You can get some idea from the example given. We shall try to create another example.

Also, some links for others below:

Yin yang:
http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/?test=B2014052

Spiral Galaxies:
http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/?test=B2014031

Fillomino:
http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/?test=M201106P
http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/?test=FF2

Shikaku:
http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/?test=M201107P1
@ 2015-11-22 11:53 PM (#20066 - in reply to #19949) (#20066) Top

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mihiryadav posted @ 2015-11-22 11:53 PM

Thank you :)
@ 2015-11-23 2:03 PM (#20082 - in reply to #19949) (#20082) Top

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Link for rules and other details about Puzzle Ramayan : http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/2015-16PR.asp
Instructions for Regions - http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201511/

I want to be clear about the time period to take the test 'Regions' : Will it be possible to take it on 30th Nov or not ?
@ 2015-11-23 2:21 PM (#20083 - in reply to #20082) (#20083) Top

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vopani posted @ 2015-11-23 2:21 PM

Cenan - 2015-11-23 2:03 PM

I want to be clear about the time period to take the test 'Regions' : Will it be possible to take it on 30th Nov or not ?

Yes. The contest will end at 23:59 GMT on 30th November, so you can take it anytime before that.
@ 2015-11-26 10:56 PM (#20117 - in reply to #20083) (#20117) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2015-11-26 10:56 PM


Instruction Booklet updated: Points table has been added and Spiral Galaxies 4/5 rules have been made more elegant based on feedback.


@ 2015-11-27 10:45 PM (#20119 - in reply to #20117) (#20119) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2015-11-27 10:45 PM

One clarification on the answer keys: If parts of the same region come more than once in the answer key, they need to be mentioned separately in the answer key.
@ 2015-11-27 10:51 PM (#20120 - in reply to #20119) (#20120) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-11-27 10:51 PM


Puzzle Booklet is uploaded now. It contains seven pages.


@ 2015-11-28 1:29 AM (#20121 - in reply to #19949) (#20121) Top

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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Spiral Galaxies
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-11-28 1:54 AM (#20122 - in reply to #19949) (#20122) Top

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kishy72 posted @ 2015-11-28 1:54 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Area Division
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-11-28 2:37 AM (#20123 - in reply to #19949) (#20123) Top

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achan1058 posted @ 2015-11-28 2:37 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Fillomino
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I found this to be very easy. Some of the puzzles are simply too guessable.
@ 2015-11-28 3:18 AM (#20124 - in reply to #19949) (#20124) Top

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Eykir posted @ 2015-11-28 3:18 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Spiral Galaxies
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-11-28 5:51 AM (#20125 - in reply to #19949) (#20125) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-11-28 5:51 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Spiral Galaxies
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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