Sudoku Mahabharat - Offline Finals - 10th May
@ 2015-03-26 5:10 AM (#18098) (#18098) Top

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More informations about the offline finals will be posted here. If you have any questions, you can ask here too.
@ 2015-03-26 5:50 AM (#18099 - in reply to #18098) (#18099) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-03-26 5:50 AM

Approximate schedule for Finals (10th May, Bangalore)

09:00 - 09:30 Registration
09:30 - 10:00 Q & A
10:00 - 13:00 Competition
13:00 - 14:00 Lunch break
14:00 - 16:00 Competition
16:30 - Awards distribution


@ 2015-03-26 2:23 PM (#18101 - in reply to #18098) (#18101) Top

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mnrhyd posted @ 2015-03-26 2:23 PM

Which city is this in
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rvarun posted @ 2015-03-26 2:31 PM

mnrhyd - 2015-03-26 2:23 PM

Which city is this in

It will be held in Bangalore.

Edited by rvarun 2015-03-26 2:31 PM
@ 2015-03-30 6:50 PM (#18123 - in reply to #18098) (#18123) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2015-03-30 6:50 PM

Update - We have sent a mail requesting some details and giving some information to the top 50. If you are in the top 50 and haven't received a mail (check in spam too), let us know. Also, we will be answering competition related queries here, even if they are asked on mail.

One such query -
What is WSC format?
Typically a World Sudoku Championship includes multiple rounds of solving. The solver is tested not just in Classics and Variants, but also some different concepts which shift a little from the usual mode of thinking. It is also a test of endurance, since there will be multiple little rounds through the day instead of one 90 minute block. We'll be releasing the Instruction Booklet around 2 weeks before the event, and like the online rounds, this booklet will have more detailed information about round structure and variants and other rules involved.
@ 2015-04-01 9:42 AM (#18136 - in reply to #18123) (#18136) Top

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shera90 posted @ 2015-04-01 9:42 AM

It is said that IB will be 2 weeks before the event. But before that can I know which puzzles to practice(with links for puzzles) as i will understand some unfamiliar puzzles to me better if I get more time for practice.
@ 2015-04-01 1:00 PM (#18138 - in reply to #18136) (#18138) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-04-01 1:00 PM

shera90 - 2015-04-01 9:42 AM

It is said that IB will be 2 weeks before the event. But before that can I know which puzzles to practice(with links for puzzles) as i will understand some unfamiliar puzzles to me better if I get more time for practice.

We are still in the process of preparing the Sudokus, so listing down the variants is not possible at the moment.

However, we have decided that there will not be any new variant apart from the 35 appeared in the seven episodes of Mahabharat.
@ 2015-04-02 12:52 AM (#18145 - in reply to #18138) (#18145) Top

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DeceptionMedal posted @ 2015-04-02 12:52 AM

Hello Sir Prasanna,

This is Kunal alias ChessMaharaja. I haven't received any mail from LMI.
@ 2015-04-02 1:42 AM (#18146 - in reply to #18098) (#18146) Top

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DeceptionMedal posted @ 2015-04-02 1:42 AM

This is to tell that the Sudoku Mahabharata was much more exciting than the Sudoku GP at my level. Thanks to all authors and testers !!
@ 2015-04-02 12:27 PM (#18148 - in reply to #18145) (#18148) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2015-04-02 12:27 PM

DeceptionMedal - 2015-04-02 12:52 AM

Hello Sir Prasanna,

This is Kunal alias ChessMaharaja. I haven't received any mail from LMI.


It was sent to the email id tied to your ChessMaharaja account, so please check that one (and its spam).
@ 2015-04-03 4:35 AM (#18153 - in reply to #18148) (#18153) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-04-03 4:35 AM

Query in mail -
What will be done in the Q&A session in the schedule?

Typically, a WSC has a Q&A session to cover the newer rules and any doubts in the instructions that participants may have. People can also clear their doubts on the forum itself before attending the event of course (in fact that's advisable), but consider this a final on-site check to ensure that everyone understands the rules, structure and format of each round of the competition.
@ 2015-04-05 7:01 AM (#18172 - in reply to #18123) (#18172) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-04-05 7:01 AM

Information required from finalists



prasanna16391 - 2015-03-30 6:50 PM

Update - We have sent a mail requesting some details and giving some information to the top 50. If you are in the top 50 and haven't received a mail (check in spam too), let us know. Also, we will be answering competition related queries here, even if they are asked on mail.


Dear Finalists,
We are yet to receive any response from the following players. We are not sure if the registered email ids are correct. Can I request each of the 10 players below to confirm if they are coming or not? I hope it is not a difficult decision to make, but please let us know your decision by 7th April (Tuesday)

dp_94 (Firozabad)
akash.doulani (Kolkata)
utkaarsh (Mumbai)
nikaash (?)
deepika m (?)
prabhadoshi (Mumbai)
geosam (Bangalore)
vijaya_rajan (?)
amith1991 (?)
manikodi (Chennai)
oldmonk (?)

You do not need to respond here, just reply back Prasanna's email.
@ 2015-04-14 7:04 PM (#18242 - in reply to #18098) (#18242) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2015-04-14 7:04 PM

Regional Co-ordinators -
We're segmenting the co-ordination to that communications are easier.
Chennai participants may contact Varun R - 9940665662
Bangalore participants may contact Zalak
For the rest of India, Rakesh Rai has agreed to be the point of contact - 9840778403
@ 2015-04-20 12:14 PM (#18243 - in reply to #18242) (#18243) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-04-20 12:14 PM

Venue in Bangalore

The venue in Bangalore for the finals on 10th May is "The Infantry Hotel" on Infantry road.

Here is the location on google maps



@ 2015-04-26 7:56 AM (#18244 - in reply to #18098) (#18244) Top

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akash.doulani posted @ 2015-04-26 7:56 AM

When will the instruction booklet be published ?
@ 2015-04-26 7:57 AM (#18245 - in reply to #18244) (#18245) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-04-26 7:57 AM

akash.doulani - 2015-04-26 7:56 AM

When will the instruction booklet be published ?

Sometime tonight (late night)
@ 2015-04-27 3:59 AM (#18246 - in reply to #18098) (#18246) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-04-27 3:59 AM

Instructions booklet published

The instructions booklet is now published.
Link : http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/dl.asp?attachmentid=514

If you have any questions, you can ask here.



@ 2015-04-27 10:17 AM (#18247 - in reply to #18098) (#18247) Top

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akash.doulani posted @ 2015-04-27 10:17 AM

Is linked Sudoku same as clone Sudoku ?
@ 2015-04-27 11:23 AM (#18248 - in reply to #18247) (#18248) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-04-27 11:23 AM

akash.doulani - 2015-04-27 10:17 AM

Is linked Sudoku same as clone Sudoku ?
Conceptually yes.
But Clone has a single grid, and Linked Classics here have 2 grids.
@ 2015-04-30 7:27 PM (#18250 - in reply to #18098) (#18250) Top

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priygupt posted @ 2015-04-30 7:27 PM

The difficulty level for the sudoku's would be same/similar as published in instruction booklet?
@ 2015-04-30 7:34 PM (#18251 - in reply to #18250) (#18251) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-04-30 7:34 PM

priygupt - 2015-04-30 7:27 PM

The difficulty level for the sudoku's would be same/similar as published in instruction booklet?

Firstly, as mentioned in the instructions booklet (page 4), the difficulty of an example is not necessarily reflective of the difficulty of the corresponding competition Sudoku.
About the overall difficulty of different rounds, we have tried to match with that of the online rounds.
@ 2015-05-01 2:43 PM (#18252 - in reply to #18098) (#18252) Top

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akash.doulani posted @ 2015-05-01 2:43 PM

In round 2 , will there be odd Sudoku or odd even Sudoku ? Because its mentioned odd Sudoku in the ib , but the example is of odd even Sudoku
@ 2015-05-01 2:55 PM (#18253 - in reply to #18252) (#18253) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-05-01 2:55 PM

akash.doulani - 2015-05-01 2:43 PM

In round 2 , will there be odd Sudoku or odd even Sudoku ? Because its mentioned odd Sudoku in the ib , but the example is of odd even Sudoku
It will be Odd Even. The example is correct, the points table is not. Will fix the points table.

ETA: Fixed IB.

Edited by debmohanty 2015-05-01 2:59 PM
@ 2015-05-05 11:19 AM (#18254 - in reply to #18098) (#18254) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-05-05 11:19 AM

With just few days left, I wish all the participants best of luck. :)
@ 2015-05-06 12:57 PM (#18255 - in reply to #18098) (#18255) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2015-05-06 12:57 PM

For the relay round can the hints of Sudoku 1 be distributed to Sudoku 3? I think hints of Sudoku 1 can only go to Sudoku 2 and from Sudoku 2 to Sudoku 3.
In the IB for the Relay Sudoku (Classic -> Either Or -> Either Or) hints on Sudoku 3 are shown as A and B which needs to be corrected to C and D.

@ 2015-05-06 1:00 PM (#18256 - in reply to #18255) (#18256) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-05-06 1:00 PM

rajeshk - 2015-05-06 12:57 PM

For the relay round can the hints of Sudoku 1 be distributed to Sudoku 3? I think hints of Sudoku 1 can only go to Sudoku 2 and from Sudoku 2 to Sudoku 3.
Hints from Sudoku 1 (top grid) can not go to Sudoku 3 (bottom grid)

rajeshk - 2015-05-06 12:57 PM
In the IB for the Relay Sudoku (Classic -> Either Or -> Either Or) hints on Sudoku 3 are shown as A and B which needs to be corrected to C and D.
Will fix.
@ 2015-05-07 9:54 PM (#18257 - in reply to #18098) (#18257) Top

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shera90 posted @ 2015-05-07 9:54 PM

i find skyscraper sudoku very confusing. can anyone help me with detailed process to arrive at solution with either video or pictures and not just only solution ?
@ 2015-05-08 9:31 AM (#18258 - in reply to #18098) (#18258) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-05-08 9:31 AM

@shera90
I have uploaded a small pdf walk-through for skyscraper example given in IB. Hope it helps you.
http://swaroopg92.blogspot.com/2015/05/sudoku-mahabharat-finals-on-...
@ 2015-05-08 4:44 PM (#18259 - in reply to #18258) (#18259) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2015-05-08 4:44 PM

I have created some practice puzzles for Sudoku Mahabharat Finals
Links to these puzzles can be find in following post
http://www.funwithpuzzles.com/2015/05/sudoku-mahabharat-2015-final....

@ 2015-05-08 8:03 PM (#18260 - in reply to #18098) (#18260) Top

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shera90 posted @ 2015-05-08 8:03 PM

In the IB fro offline finals it is written that

The permitted items which may be taken into the competition hall and used are: Pens, pencils, erasers, rulers,
instruction booklets (optionally annotated with notes regarding instructions and preparation notes) and blank
paper.


Does that means i can bring any solved example types not present in IB (with how to solve tricks for that particular sudoku) along with the IB ?
@ 2015-05-08 9:42 PM (#18261 - in reply to #18260) (#18261) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-05-08 9:42 PM

yes you can bring.

shera90 - 2015-05-08 8:03 PM

In the IB fro offline finals it is written that

The permitted items which may be taken into the competition hall and used are: Pens, pencils, erasers, rulers,
instruction booklets (optionally annotated with notes regarding instructions and preparation notes) and blank
paper.


Does that means i can bring any solved example types not present in IB (with how to solve tricks for that particular sudoku) along with the IB ?


@ 2015-05-08 10:33 PM (#18262 - in reply to #18098) (#18262) Top

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shera90 posted @ 2015-05-08 10:33 PM

ok. thanks
@ 2015-05-09 12:37 PM (#18263 - in reply to #18262) (#18263) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2015-05-09 12:37 PM

I have added one Compressed Sudoku for practice of Sudoku Mahabharat
http://www.funwithpuzzles.com/2015/05/compressed-sudoku.html

@ 2015-05-10 9:08 PM (#18265 - in reply to #18098) (#18265) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-05-10 9:08 PM

results ?
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rakesh_rai posted @ 2015-05-11 9:11 AM

swaroop2011 - 2015-05-10 9:08 PM

results ?


Winner: Amit Sowani
2nd Runner up: Gaurav Jain
4th: Akash Doulani
5th: Jayant Ameta
6th-10th: Rajesh Kumar, Kunal Verma, Ashish Kumar, Harmeet Singh, Zalak Ghetia (order may not be completely accurate)
@ 2015-05-11 9:49 AM (#18267 - in reply to #18266) (#18267) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-05-11 9:49 AM

Congratulations Amit, Rakesh and Gaurav for finishing top 3.
I also congratulate top 10 and other winners too for different categories and if any other prizes.
:) :)
@ 2015-05-11 10:53 AM (#18268 - in reply to #18098) (#18268) Top

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2015-05-11 10:53 AM

Very well organised championship.... We all had a wonderful day with excellent puzzling atmosphere....
Thanks to Deb, Rohan and Prassanna and all others who helped in organizing the event.
Congrats to all the winners and participants.
@ 2015-05-11 11:02 AM (#18269 - in reply to #18268) (#18269) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-05-11 11:02 AM

Results



(SMFinals.png)



Attachments
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Attachments SMFinals.png (29KB - 29 downloads)
@ 2015-05-11 11:04 AM (#18270 - in reply to #18098) (#18270) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-05-11 11:04 AM

Misplaced folder during yesterday's finals
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Mr K Ravichandran's folder (which contained his answer sheets and the goodies) was misplaced somewhere yesterday. If anyone has seen it somewhere, please let us know.
@ 2015-05-11 4:00 PM (#18271 - in reply to #18270) (#18271) Top

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devarajand posted @ 2015-05-11 4:00 PM

Dear Deb,

Can you upload all the photos taken during Sudoku Mahabharat Pl.
@ 2015-05-11 4:20 PM (#18272 - in reply to #18271) (#18272) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-05-11 4:20 PM

Varun, Kumaresan, Others,
Please send the photos to logicmasteradmin@gmail.com
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rakesh_rai posted @ 2015-05-11 4:24 PM

The finale of the inaugural Sudoku Mahabharat was indeed superb. We really enjoyed the first four rounds of solving - each of them tested a different aspect of solving - and the fifth round was a good eye-check up test. There was healthy competition between the top 5 and anyone could have won on their day. In the end, the recreational activities were very enjoyable as well. And it was a perfect opportunity to meet a lot of old timers and some new faces, apart from Deb, Rohan and Prasanna, of course.

A lot of effort must have gone into the organization of the finals - both the puzzle part and the logistics part. Thanks to all the organizers of the event. The prizes on offer were well thought of. And the venue was also perfect for the occasion. The organization was flawless. We stuck to the round timelines and scores were available almost real time.

I can say that those who could not make it to the finals missed a great event.
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debmohanty posted @ 2015-05-11 4:43 PM

neerajmehrotra - 2015-05-11 10:53 AM

Very well organised championship.... We all had a wonderful day with excellent puzzling atmosphere....
Thanks to Deb, Rohan and Prassanna and all others who helped in organizing the event.
Congrats to all the winners and participants.
Wanted to add Sumit's name here. He took care of the goody bag (containing the exam board, notepad with blank sudoku grids, band, badge, pen/pencil, tag) and the trophies for top 3. All the stuff were specially designed for Sudoku Mahabharat. Unfortunately he could not make it to the finals.
Thanks also to Akash who carried all the stuff from Kolkata.
@ 2015-05-11 9:06 PM (#18275 - in reply to #18274) (#18275) Top

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2015-05-11 9:06 PM

debmohanty - 2015-05-11 4:43 PM

neerajmehrotra - 2015-05-11 10:53 AM

Very well organised championship.... We all had a wonderful day with excellent puzzling atmosphere....
Thanks to Deb, Rohan and Prassanna and all others who helped in organizing the event.
Congrats to all the winners and participants.
Wanted to add Sumit's name here. He took care of the goody bag (containing the exam board, notepad with blank sudoku grids, band, badge, pen/pencil, tag) and the trophies for top 3. All the stuff were specially designed for Sudoku Mahabharat. Unfortunately he could not make it to the finals.
Thanks also to Akash who carried all the stuff from Kolkata.


That is really nice of Sumit...
Really missed him in the event
@ 2015-05-11 10:02 PM (#18276 - in reply to #18275) (#18276) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-05-11 10:02 PM

All participants at SM finals 2015 - Can someone please post the names in sequence?

All participants at SM Finals 2015
@ 2015-05-11 10:21 PM (#18277 - in reply to #18276) (#18277) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2015-05-11 10:21 PM

Administrator - 2015-05-11 10:02 PM

All participants at SM finals 2015 - Can someone please post the names in sequence?




I think this is taken after 3 participants left, since I count 25 participants here with 3 organizers.
@ 2015-05-11 10:29 PM (#18278 - in reply to #18276) (#18278) Top

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Administrator - 2015-05-11 10:02 PM

All participants at SM finals 2015 - Can someone please post the names in sequence?



Dividing into three rows even though the one at the back is 'uneven'. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Back row - from left to right - Jayant Ameta, Sai Karthik Burra, myself, T.N. Venkatesh, K. Ravichandran, Akash Doulani, Deb Mohanty, Amit Sowani, D. Devarajan, Harmeet Singh.
Middle row - from left to right - M. Ezhilarasi, Deepika Moningi, Purvi Shah, Zalak Ghetia, Ashish Kumar, Neeraj Mehrotra, Gaurav Kumar Jain, Aditi Seshadri, Shri Vasantha Senaa S, Manikodi Rathinam.
Front row - from left to right - Varun R., Rohan Rao, Shaheer Rehman, Kunal Verma, Rakesh Rai, Rajesh Kumar, R. Kumaresan, Sanket Saxena.
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rakesh_rai posted @ 2015-05-11 10:55 PM

prasanna16391 - 2015-05-11 10:29 PM

... Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

I think you have got all correct. Ravi, Parag and Priyanka are the three missing participants.
@ 2015-05-12 7:30 AM (#18280 - in reply to #18098) (#18280) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-05-12 7:30 AM

One more try one getting all the participants - hope no one is missing here.

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-05-12 8:27 AM

rakesh_rai - 2015-05-11 4:24 PM

I can say that those who could not make it to the finals missed a great event.
Not only they missed a great event, they also helped to increase the expenses for the organizers significantly.

Out of the top 50, around 8 players had immediately responded that they won't be able to attend, and the rest 42 players responded that they will be attending the event. All the arrangements were done based on those numbers. However, exactly one-third dropped out from the event. There were of course some genuine reasons for dropping out, but we also heard reasons like "oh, I didn't realize that today is 10th".
It is important to respect the commitments since nobody was forced to make a commitment. I was personally very sad to see players from Bangalore missing out without even letting us know till the last moment.
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sanket.saxena posted @ 2015-05-12 11:46 AM

Hi Deb/Rohan/Prasanna,

Can you please upload all the pics from finals to google cloud/ dropbox?
@ 2015-05-12 11:59 AM (#18284 - in reply to #18274) (#18284) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2015-05-12 11:59 AM

debmohanty - 2015-05-11 4:43 PM

neerajmehrotra - 2015-05-11 10:53 AM

Very well organised championship.... We all had a wonderful day with excellent puzzling atmosphere....
Thanks to Deb, Rohan and Prassanna and all others who helped in organizing the event.
Congrats to all the winners and participants.


Wanted to add Sumit's name here. He took care of the goody bag (containing the exam board, notepad with blank sudoku grids, band, badge, pen/pencil, tag) and the trophies for top 3. All the stuff were specially designed for Sudoku Mahabharat. Unfortunately he could not make it to the finals.
Thanks also to Akash who carried all the stuff from Kolkata.


I think the volunteers also deserve mention. The three volunteers were Deb's friend Himanshu, my mom (Usha) and her friend, Swati. We're thankful to all three of them for their help in checking the competition booklets and the other odds and ends they helped with over the course of the event.
@ 2015-05-12 7:34 PM (#18285 - in reply to #18284) (#18285) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2015-05-12 7:34 PM

Do read about my experience @ Sudoku Mahabharat
http://www.funwithpuzzles.com/2015/05/my-experience-sudoku-mahabhar...

@ 2015-05-12 9:01 PM (#18286 - in reply to #18285) (#18286) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-05-12 9:01 PM

rajeshk - 2015-05-12 7:34 PM

Do read about my experience @ Sudoku Mahabharat
http://www.funwithpuzzles.com/2015/05/my-experience-sudoku-mahabhar...

Thanks for the detailed write up Rajesh. Did you miss the Introduction segment ? It was not planned to be, but I think it was good fun too.
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Administrator posted @ 2015-05-13 7:52 AM

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Yajendra posted @ 2015-05-13 4:10 PM

I would have loved to participate, but couldnt qualify.
@ 2015-05-14 10:24 AM (#18299 - in reply to #18098) (#18299) Top

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rvarun posted @ 2015-05-14 10:24 AM

Prize Distribution photos from Sudoku Mahabharath 2015 Finals.

https://plus.google.com/photos/111075859285734607809/albums/61476426...