Sudoku Mahabharat - Neighbours - 20th-23rd Feb
@ 2015-02-08 8:30 AM (#17658) (#17658) Top

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Link for rules and other details about Sudoku Mahabharat : http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/
Instructions for Neighbours - Link

@ 2015-02-11 8:57 AM (#17669 - in reply to #17658) (#17669) Top

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Neighbours

Instruction Booklet for Neighbours published.

Link : http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/201502/


@ 2015-02-11 9:33 AM (#17670 - in reply to #17658) (#17670) Top

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Yajendra posted @ 2015-02-11 9:33 AM

I find 6*6 and 8*8 sudokus taking longer time than 9*9 sudoku with similar difficulty level.

Are there any special techniques or things that we need to keep in mind while solving 6*6 and 8*8 sudokus??
@ 2015-02-11 5:06 PM (#17671 - in reply to #17658) (#17671) Top

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auroux posted @ 2015-02-11 5:06 PM

The 9x9 Either-Or has many different solutions... hopefully the PB puzzle won't have that "feature".
@ 2015-02-11 6:16 PM (#17672 - in reply to #17658) (#17672) Top

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auroux posted @ 2015-02-11 6:16 PM

Also, regarding the 9x9 Renban: usually in this variation "line" means a continuously drawn line that may intersect itself. I would have thought that the pattern in the lower middle 3x3 box consists of two distinct lines, each of which must contain consecutive digits. Is the author's interpretation different (in which case I'd like to suggest that the terminology be changed from "line" to "continuous marked group" or something like that), or is a segment missing from the diagram to turn this into a single continuous line (self-intersecting, though it could also be redrawn differenty to be non-intersecting)?
@ 2015-02-11 9:44 PM (#17673 - in reply to #17672) (#17673) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2015-02-11 9:44 PM

@auroux: Your both observations are right. We will update the IB and will load the corrected IB soon.

@ 2015-02-12 12:02 AM (#17675 - in reply to #17672) (#17675) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2015-02-12 12:02 AM

auroux - 2015-02-11 6:16 PM

Also, regarding the 9x9 Renban: usually in this variation "line" means a continuously drawn line that may intersect itself. I would have thought that the pattern in the lower middle 3x3 box consists of two distinct lines, each of which must contain consecutive digits. Is the author's interpretation different (in which case I'd like to suggest that the terminology be changed from "line" to "continuous marked group" or something like that), or is a segment missing from the diagram to turn this into a single continuous line (self-intersecting, though it could also be redrawn differenty to be non-intersecting)?


Yes, one segment of line went missing to make it continues line of size of 5. We will make the required changes in IB and soon will upload the corrected version.
@ 2015-02-12 2:05 AM (#17676 - in reply to #17672) (#17676) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-02-12 2:05 AM

Updated IB uploaded.

1. Renban : The lines in box 8 are removed. Now it is same as http://logicmastersindia.com/BeginnersSudoku/types/?test=B201303#V0...

2. Either Or : Two missing clues in column 1 are added.
@ 2015-02-12 2:13 AM (#17677 - in reply to #17670) (#17677) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2015-02-12 2:13 AM

Yajendra - 2015-02-11 9:33 AM

I find 6*6 and 8*8 sudokus taking longer time than 9*9 sudoku with similar difficulty level.

Are there any special techniques or things that we need to keep in mind while solving 6*6 and 8*8 sudokus??


With 8*8 I know what you mean, that happened to me too at the start. Never had that problem with 6*6 though. In the end, I think it might be that you are more accustomed to a 9*9. There aren't any special techniques as such as far as I know. My 8*8 problem's mostly gone away now with more practice.
@ 2015-02-14 7:05 AM (#17681 - in reply to #17658) (#17681) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-02-14 7:05 AM

Finals in Bangalore on 10th May

Please note that the finals will be held in Bangalore on 10th of May

@ 2015-02-17 12:14 AM (#17689 - in reply to #17658) (#17689) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2015-02-17 12:14 AM

Checkout one recently created Touchy Sudoku for practice of this test
http://www.funwithpuzzles.com/2015/02/touchy-sudoku-daily-sudoku-le...
@ 2015-02-19 8:48 AM (#17696 - in reply to #17689) (#17696) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-02-19 8:48 AM

Points distributions

An updated version of Instruction Booklet with points table is now uploaded.



@ 2015-02-19 9:09 AM (#17697 - in reply to #17696) (#17697) Top

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john_reid posted @ 2015-02-19 9:09 AM

Is the sample grid on page 3 of the IB meant to be solvable? [The one that says 'This grid is for testing how the printout looks'] I only ask because in the previous IBs for Sudoku Mahabharat the corresponding samples have been solvable. However in this one the 8s in the middle column of boxes don't work. Just wondering!

Edited by john_reid 2015-02-19 9:10 AM
@ 2015-02-19 9:13 AM (#17698 - in reply to #17697) (#17698) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-02-19 9:13 AM

john_reid - 2015-02-19 9:09 AM

Is the sample grid on page 3 of the IB meant to be solvable? [The one that says 'This grid is for testing how the printout looks'] I only ask because in the previous IBs for Sudoku Mahabharat the corresponding samples have been solvable. However in this one the 8s in the middle column of boxes don't work. Just wondering!

You are right that in previous IBs the "all-in-one" grids were solvable, but this one is not. I didn't have enough time to make one, though I realize now that it should be easy to make one.
@ 2015-02-19 3:45 PM (#17699 - in reply to #17658) (#17699) Top

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auroux posted @ 2015-02-19 3:45 PM

Is the test running Feb 20-22 or 21-23? (wishing it's 20-22 since I'm not sure I'll have any availability on Feb 21-23, but if there's a good reason not to start until Saturday then so be it).

EDIT: looks like it's really Feb 21-23. Bah. Too bad!

Edited by auroux 2015-02-19 3:47 PM

@ 2015-02-19 7:13 PM (#17700 - in reply to #17699) (#17700) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-02-19 7:13 PM

auroux - 2015-02-19 3:45 PM

Is the test running Feb 20-22 or 21-23? (wishing it's 20-22 since I'm not sure I'll have any availability on Feb 21-23, but if there's a good reason not to start until Saturday then so be it).

EDIT: looks like it's really Feb 21-23. Bah. Too bad!


There is no reason to start on 21st other than we have always started on Saturdays.
But this time, Rajesh has provided all the materials much earlier, so the contest setup is complete. We will start on Friday itself.

And sorry about having different dates at different places.
@ 2015-02-19 11:21 PM (#17703 - in reply to #17658) (#17703) Top

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auroux posted @ 2015-02-19 11:21 PM

Oh, that's great! Thanks so much for advancing the start time! Definitely doing it tomorrow then :)
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@ 2015-02-20 6:24 AM (#17704 - in reply to #17703) (#17704) Top

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@ 2015-02-20 10:21 AM (#17706 - in reply to #17658) (#17706) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-02-20 10:21 AM

Very Nice Puzzles rajesh !!
For me it was bad performance, though i completed in time. I did lot of mistakes and got stuck in the Inequality big one (I guess that's my weak spot and need to improve upon that)
Overall Excellent Puzzles. My favourite was QuadMax and Touchy big ones.
@ 2015-02-20 2:13 PM (#17707 - in reply to #17706) (#17707) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2015-02-20 2:13 PM

Nice test, Rajesh.

I had almost forgotten how to solve Touchy and was solving it as a classic for some time. Inequality(6x6 and 9x9) and Touchy(9x9) took me close to 34 minutes. Luckily I was able to complete the set in time. The grids I liked the most were Renban 9x9 and Standard 9x9 (2).
@ 2015-02-20 2:15 PM (#17708 - in reply to #17658) (#17708) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2015-02-20 2:15 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-02-20 7:24 PM (#17709 - in reply to #17658) (#17709) Top

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auroux posted @ 2015-02-20 7:24 PM

Very nice -- these variants aren't my favorites at all, but it was pretty good. The 9x9 Renban was very nice -- it flowed smoothly from start to end. I found the 9x9 inequality quite painful, but I think I'm just really bad at reading the clues in this variant. (How do people keep track of all the zigzags ??)
@ 2015-02-20 9:25 PM (#17710 - in reply to #17658) (#17710) Top

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margareta456 posted @ 2015-02-20 9:25 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-02-21 11:29 AM (#17713 - in reply to #17658) (#17713) Top

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atul singh posted @ 2015-02-21 11:29 AM

hi, i have played sudoku mahabharat on 20th feb. can't i play it on 21st feb.
@ 2015-02-21 2:05 PM (#17714 - in reply to #17658) (#17714) Top

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shera90 posted @ 2015-02-21 2:05 PM

It was a good test. I had solved all except Inequality 9*9 and Touchy 9*9 in approx 50 minutes . I had a good 40 minutes for these 2, but made mistakes in both and could not recover in time. waiting for solutions for these so that i can know my mistakes.

Edited by shera90 2015-02-21 2:10 PM
@ 2015-02-21 5:29 PM (#17716 - in reply to #17658) (#17716) Top

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peluri posted @ 2015-02-21 5:29 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-02-21 7:09 PM (#17717 - in reply to #17658) (#17717) Top

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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


inequality puzzles should not be included with sudoku competitions. Entirely different approach. I understand the neighbors theme, but they just seemed out of place and required much too much time.
@ 2015-02-21 9:22 PM (#17718 - in reply to #17658) (#17718) Top

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mackokajka posted @ 2015-02-21 9:22 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? representation could have been better
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-02-21 11:58 PM (#17720 - in reply to #17718) (#17720) Top

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2015-02-21 11:58 PM

Thoroughly enjoyed the puzzles..Thanks Rajesh for such nice puzzles...
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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2015-02-21 11:58 PM

Thoroughly enjoyed the puzzles..Thanks Rajesh for such nice puzzles...
@ 2015-02-22 12:00 AM (#17722 - in reply to #17658) (#17722) Top

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2015-02-22 12:00 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-02-22 3:36 AM (#17723 - in reply to #17658) (#17723) Top

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clement_72 posted @ 2015-02-22 3:36 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-02-22 8:28 AM (#17725 - in reply to #17658) (#17725) Top

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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-02-22 9:56 AM (#17726 - in reply to #17658) (#17726) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2015-02-22 9:56 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2015-02-22 10:03 AM (#17727 - in reply to #17658) (#17727) Top

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akash.doulani posted @ 2015-02-22 10:03 AM

Wonderful set of puzzles. Took too much time on the bigger touchy and hence thought that the smaller touchy would also be tough. As a result didn't attempt that since I was running out of time . After the test when I solved the 6x6 touchy , I realised it was probably the easiest of all the sudokus .
@ 2015-02-22 11:42 AM (#17728 - in reply to #17658) (#17728) Top

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davep posted @ 2015-02-22 11:42 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Cheers, Rajesh!

I particularly liked the renban puzzles, and of course the touchy was near to my heart.

Thanks for the contest, regards to Deb and the gang --

Dave

@ 2015-02-22 12:02 PM (#17729 - in reply to #17713) (#17729) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2015-02-22 12:02 PM

atul singh - 2015-02-21 11:29 AM

hi, i have played sudoku mahabharat on 20th feb. can't i play it on 21st feb.

It is the same contest (Neighbours) which is open for a 96-hour period. Since you already took it on 20th, you cannot take it again. Watch out for the next Sudoku Mahabharat contest in March 2015.
@ 2015-02-22 1:23 PM (#17730 - in reply to #17658) (#17730) Top

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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-02-22 4:10 PM (#17731 - in reply to #17658) (#17731) Top

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Yajendra posted @ 2015-02-22 4:10 PM

I seem to have correct solution for inequality 9*9, but it shows wrong..
@ 2015-02-22 4:20 PM (#17732 - in reply to #17658) (#17732) Top

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kishy72 posted @ 2015-02-22 4:20 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Hi Rajesh!.The sudokus were absolutely splendid and I enjoyed solving them a lot.It was thorough fun.This must probably be the first test that you have solely authored in LMI?!and what an impressive start at that!The sudokus were very logically solveable and had smooth flowing solutions.

My favourites of the pack were Touchy(14),Inequality(12)[I totally despise the Inequality variant of sudoku in general ,but you made me reconsider my preferences by constructing this particular one.It might have to do with the beautiful solve path..9-8-7-6...Great work!!] and the classic(10) which dragged me a little bit in the end.I continue to be amazed by the scope of improvement left in my classic solving style which I understood by solving the classic 10 pointer.I learnt a lot by solving this test.

I look forward to solving your sudokus in the Indian round of the GP where you are one of the co-authors.Thanks a lot Rajesh.Highly impressed by your style of construction!!
@ 2015-02-22 5:13 PM (#17733 - in reply to #17658) (#17733) Top

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TiiT posted @ 2015-02-22 5:13 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-02-22 6:26 PM (#17734 - in reply to #17658) (#17734) Top

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sonnylaskar posted @ 2015-02-22 6:26 PM

The sudokus were nice. It would be helpful if someone could help me in approaching the Touchy Sodukus
@ 2015-02-22 8:46 PM (#17735 - in reply to #17734) (#17735) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2015-02-22 8:46 PM

sonnylaskar - 2015-02-22 6:26 PM

The sudokus were nice. It would be helpful if someone could help me in approaching the Touchy Sodukus


For Touchy Sudoku try to start with 1 and 9 as 1 and 9 can has to be connected with 2 and 8 respectively.
@ 2015-02-22 9:06 PM (#17736 - in reply to #17658) (#17736) Top

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Yuhei Kusui posted @ 2015-02-22 9:06 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-02-22 9:09 PM (#17737 - in reply to #17731) (#17737) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2015-02-22 9:09 PM

Yajendra - 2015-02-22 4:10 PM

I seem to have correct solution for inequality 9*9, but it shows wrong..


For your solution, check that all the inequality sign are followed properly. Missing even one inequality sign sometimes leads to wrong solution.
@ 2015-02-22 9:10 PM (#17738 - in reply to #17706) (#17738) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2015-02-22 9:10 PM

swaroop2011 - 2015-02-20 10:21 AM

Very Nice Puzzles rajesh !!
For me it was bad performance, though i completed in time. I did lot of mistakes and got stuck in the Inequality big one (I guess that's my weak spot and need to improve upon that)
Overall Excellent Puzzles. My favourite was QuadMax and Touchy big ones.


Thanks Swaroop!
Looking forward to next episode of SM where you are author.

@ 2015-02-22 9:11 PM (#17739 - in reply to #17707) (#17739) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2015-02-22 9:11 PM

rakesh_rai - 2015-02-20 2:13 PM

Nice test, Rajesh.

I had almost forgotten how to solve Touchy and was solving it as a classic for some time. Inequality(6x6 and 9x9) and Touchy(9x9) took me close to 34 minutes. Luckily I was able to complete the set in time. The grids I liked the most were Renban 9x9 and Standard 9x9 (2).


Thanks Rakesh for your feedback.
@ 2015-02-22 9:28 PM (#17740 - in reply to #17658) (#17740) Top

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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2015-02-22 10:35 PM (#17741 - in reply to #17735) (#17741) Top

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sonnylaskar posted @ 2015-02-22 10:35 PM

rajeshk - 2015-02-22 8:46 PM

sonnylaskar - 2015-02-22 6:26 PM

The sudokus were nice. It would be helpful if someone could help me in approaching the Touchy Sodukus


For Touchy Sudoku try to start with 1 and 9 as 1 and 9 can has to be connected with 2 and 8 respectively.

Can the adjacent consecutive neighbour belong to a separate 3x3 box?
@ 2015-02-22 10:38 PM (#17742 - in reply to #17741) (#17742) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2015-02-22 10:38 PM

sonnylaskar - 2015-02-22 10:35 PM

rajeshk - 2015-02-22 8:46 PM

sonnylaskar - 2015-02-22 6:26 PM

The sudokus were nice. It would be helpful if someone could help me in approaching the Touchy Sodukus


For Touchy Sudoku try to start with 1 and 9 as 1 and 9 can has to be connected with 2 and 8 respectively.

Can the adjacent consecutive neighbour belong to a separate 3x3 box?
Yes, it can.
@ 2015-02-22 11:11 PM (#17744 - in reply to #17658) (#17744) Top

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TiiT posted @ 2015-02-22 11:11 PM

I think renban was a bit of out of theme. It has actually nothing to do with the neighbours. Consecutive Sudoku would be more appropriate in this case in example. But the puzzles were nice and I have absolutely no problem with solving renban - It's actually one of my favourites because of what happened in Eger 2011 :)
@ 2015-02-23 3:07 AM (#17745 - in reply to #17658) (#17745) Top

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greenhorn posted @ 2015-02-23 3:07 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-02-23 3:18 AM (#17746 - in reply to #17658) (#17746) Top

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Maksim posted @ 2015-02-23 3:18 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-02-23 2:56 PM (#17748 - in reply to #17746) (#17748) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-02-23 2:56 PM

Extension

Based on a request from a player, we are extending this contest till Wednesday morning. See submission page for exact timing.

@ 2015-02-23 3:43 PM (#17749 - in reply to #17658) (#17749) Top

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lenzo posted @ 2015-02-23 3:43 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2015-02-23 5:10 PM (#17750 - in reply to #17658) (#17750) Top

tamz29



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tamz29 posted @ 2015-02-23 5:10 PM

Let me congratulate you on a test well done. The puzzles were great.

This quibble is more of a general problem than a personal attack.

I think Inequality Sudoku with all relations given is a bad puzzle, not because your particular puzzle is bad but the idea of having all relations given
makes up for a very tedious 'puzzle'. One can either start with the 9s to 8s, 7 and so on... or from 1 to 2 to 3...and so on,
and it becomes more of a laborious work than fun.
ALL Inequality Sudoku where all relations are given works this way.
I think a lot of Thai solvers have had enough of computer-generated Inequality Sudoku in our tournaments, and due to its nature
any attempt at handmaking such puzzle goes unnoticed, the one in the test included.

My recommendation to all future authors is to not give all relations and try to be more artistic.
I can name puzzles from BIST, Tetsuya Nishio Cup and several in the Daily league - where authors present
Inequality Sudoku substantially better with given numbers, patterns and more interesting solving paths than give all relations for solvers to track down 9s and 1s.
I see the 6x6 puzzle has a few relations omitted out but the end result is still very boring to solve.

Please don't take this personal Rajesh, I'm just trying convey an opinion.
I have no problems with other puzzles, and I really enjoyed the test with Either Or Sudoku being my favourite.
Thanks!
@ 2015-02-23 5:55 PM (#17751 - in reply to #17750) (#17751) Top

rajeshk




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rajeshk posted @ 2015-02-23 5:55 PM

@tamz29 Thanks for your feedback. It will help me to improve my Sudoku/Puzzle Creation skills.

@ 2015-02-23 9:14 PM (#17752 - in reply to #17658) (#17752) Top

MrLiang




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MrLiang posted @ 2015-02-23 9:14 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Only Greater or Less sign can make me confuse and touchy take long time, but the number clues (Heart) good idea. ^_^
And other puzzles are very good.
Good jobs, Rajesh.
@ 2015-02-24 4:10 AM (#17755 - in reply to #17658) (#17755) Top

azalozni



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azalozni posted @ 2015-02-24 4:10 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-02-24 2:38 PM (#17757 - in reply to #17658) (#17757) Top

Yajendra




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Yajendra posted @ 2015-02-24 2:38 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? representation could have been better
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-02-24 3:15 PM (#17758 - in reply to #17658) (#17758) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2015-02-24 3:15 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-02-24 10:42 PM (#17760 - in reply to #17658) (#17760) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2015-02-24 10:42 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


@ 2015-02-25 3:51 PM (#17763 - in reply to #17760) (#17763) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-02-25 3:51 PM

Neighbours Variations is over now. Password has been removed, and solutions appended to the pdf.

Congratulations to jaku111, Tiit and kwaka for taking the Top 3 spots.
@ 2015-02-27 12:02 AM (#17771 - in reply to #17658) (#17771) Top

huisouvik



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huisouvik posted @ 2015-02-27 12:02 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2015-02-27 9:20 PM (#17774 - in reply to #17658) (#17774) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2015-02-27 9:20 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? representation could have been better
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2015-02-28 4:08 PM (#17777 - in reply to #17658) (#17777) Top

sonnylaskar



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sonnylaskar posted @ 2015-02-28 4:08 PM

I am trying to solve Touchy (6x6) and I am struck here.Need some hint in progressing.I am sure if I make one more cell, it will be done.
@ 2015-02-28 4:09 PM (#17778 - in reply to #17658) (#17778) Top

sonnylaskar



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sonnylaskar posted @ 2015-02-28 4:09 PM

I am trying to solve Touchy (6x6) and I am struck here.Need some hint in progressing.I am sure if I make one more cell, it will be done.



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@ 2015-02-28 4:38 PM (#17779 - in reply to #17778) (#17779) Top

rvarun



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rvarun posted @ 2015-02-28 4:38 PM

sonnylaskar - 2015-02-28 4:09 PM

I am trying to solve Touchy (6x6) and I am struck here.Need some hint in progressing.I am sure if I make one more cell, it will be done.


Check R1C1. You can have a 1 or 6 here. If you put 1, the neighbor cell R2C1 will be 5 or 6 and R1C2 is already 3. This violates the touchy rule. So it must be 6 here. Try proceeding from here.
@ 2015-02-28 6:46 PM (#17781 - in reply to #17779) (#17781) Top

sonnylaskar



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sonnylaskar posted @ 2015-02-28 6:46 PM

rvarun - 2015-02-28 4:38 PM

sonnylaskar - 2015-02-28 4:09 PM

I am trying to solve Touchy (6x6) and I am struck here.Need some hint in progressing.I am sure if I make one more cell, it will be done.


Check R1C1. You can have a 1 or 6 here. If you put 1, the neighbor cell R2C1 will be 5 or 6 and R1C2 is already 3. This violates the touchy rule. So it must be 6 here. Try proceeding from here.

Ya I didn't notice that.
@ 2015-03-03 7:58 PM (#17793 - in reply to #17658) (#17793) Top

shera90




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shera90 posted @ 2015-03-03 7:58 PM

where are the full solutions for neighbours ?
@ 2015-03-03 11:26 PM (#17795 - in reply to #17793) (#17795) Top

rakesh_rai




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rakesh_rai posted @ 2015-03-03 11:26 PM

shera90 - 2015-03-03 7:58 PM

where are the full solutions for neighbours ?


Sudoku booklet (PB) has the password removed and solutions appended.

Edited by rakesh_rai 2015-03-03 11:26 PM
@ 2015-03-04 9:43 AM (#17796 - in reply to #17795) (#17796) Top

shera90




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shera90 posted @ 2015-03-04 9:43 AM

where is the link for solutions ? i couldn't find
@ 2015-03-04 10:34 AM (#17797 - in reply to #17796) (#17797) Top

rvarun



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rvarun posted @ 2015-03-04 10:34 AM

shera90 - 2015-03-04 9:43 AM

where is the link for solutions ? i couldn't find


Hi. You can download the Puzzle booklet from the link http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/201502/

The solutions are appended at the end of the booklet. The last pages of the booklet will have the solutions.
@ 2015-03-04 1:43 PM (#17798 - in reply to #17797) (#17798) Top

shera90




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shera90 posted @ 2015-03-04 1:43 PM

Thanks. I thought was only puzzle booklet.
@ 2015-03-04 5:04 PM (#17800 - in reply to #17681) (#17800) Top

utkaarsh



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utkaarsh posted @ 2015-03-04 5:04 PM

Administrator - 2015-02-14 7:05 AM

Finals in Bangalore on 10th May

Please note that the finals will be held in Bangalore on 10th of May




Will it be a one-day event and if possible more details which might help for travel-bookings

Edited by utkaarsh 2015-03-04 5:04 PM
@ 2015-03-12 4:55 AM (#17882 - in reply to #17800) (#17882) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-03-12 4:55 AM

utkaarsh - 2015-03-04 5:04 PM


Will it be a one-day event and if possible more details which might help for travel-bookings
It will be a day event starting around 9 am, and finishing around 5pm