WPC Practice Test — 10th - 13th October
@ 2013-10-07 5:40 PM (#13078) (#13078) Top

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@ 2013-10-07 10:49 PM (#13087 - in reply to #13078) (#13087) Top

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Logic Masters India announces WPC Practice Test

Dates : 10th — 13th October

Instruction Booklet & Submission : here

Author : Ko Okamoto (xevs)

Length : 90 minutes

@ 2013-10-08 1:32 AM (#13091 - in reply to #13078) (#13091) Top

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MellowMelon posted @ 2013-10-08 1:32 AM

The dotted wall example seems not to be unique; the bottom left corner can be shaded or unshaded. Was the 7/- clue supposed to be 7/1? It fixes this and makes the clues symmetric.
@ 2013-10-08 12:04 PM (#13096 - in reply to #13091) (#13096) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2013-10-08 12:04 PM

MellowMelon - 2013-10-08 1:32 AM

The dotted wall example seems not to be unique; the bottom left corner can be shaded or unshaded. Was the 7/- clue supposed to be 7/1? It fixes this and makes the clues symmetric.
You are right; the clue should have been 7/1.
Updated version of IB uploaded with this change and Points Table.
@ 2013-10-08 3:02 PM (#13098 - in reply to #13078) (#13098) Top

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kiwijam posted @ 2013-10-08 3:02 PM

Arigatoo gozaimashita, Okamoto-san.
Thank you for creating this contest.
And I'm pleased that it is before this weekend, I was worried it would start after I started travelling. :)

Edited by kiwijam 2013-10-08 3:02 PM
@ 2013-10-08 3:41 PM (#13100 - in reply to #13098) (#13100) Top

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xevs posted @ 2013-10-08 3:41 PM

kiwijam - 2013-10-08 6:02 PM

Arigatoo gozaimashita, Okamoto-san.
Thank you for creating this contest.
And I'm pleased that it is before this weekend, I was worried it would start after I started travelling. :)


????????/ Dou itashimashite, kiwi-san.
The schedule is determined within conversation with Mr. Deb Mohanty.
Hope your great score in this test and also in WPC ;-)
@ 2013-10-09 5:53 AM (#13108 - in reply to #13078) (#13108) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2013-10-09 5:53 AM

NOTE :
In Pentopia, Pentominoes are not allowed to touch each other, even diagonally.
(IB was missing the words "even diagonally". We have added those two words now)
@ 2013-10-09 9:02 AM (#13113 - in reply to #13078) (#13113) Top

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auroux posted @ 2013-10-09 9:02 AM

The link for v2 of the IB seems to be broken -- it gives me the IB for Magic Cube from 2011. -- Denis
@ 2013-10-09 9:05 AM (#13114 - in reply to #13113) (#13114) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2013-10-09 9:05 AM

auroux - 2013-10-09 9:02 AM

The link for v2 of the IB seems to be broken -- it gives me the IB for Magic Cube from 2011. -- Denis
Fixed.
@ 2013-10-10 7:42 AM (#13129 - in reply to #13078) (#13129) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2013-10-10 7:42 AM

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@ 2013-10-10 9:06 AM (#13130 - in reply to #13129) (#13130) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2013-10-10 9:06 AM

Question in PM
Is this test rated?
No. It is planned at such a time where players will be busy with travel and related issues.
@ 2013-10-10 9:12 AM (#13131 - in reply to #13130) (#13131) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2013-10-10 9:12 AM

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@ 2013-10-10 9:49 AM (#13132 - in reply to #13078) (#13132) Top

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achan1058 posted @ 2013-10-10 9:49 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-10-10 12:04 PM (#13134 - in reply to #13078) (#13134) Top

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AndreyBogdanov posted @ 2013-10-10 12:04 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-10-10 5:49 PM (#13140 - in reply to #13078) (#13140) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2013-10-10 5:49 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2013-10-10 6:39 PM (#13141 - in reply to #13078) (#13141) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2013-10-10 6:39 PM

I could not get correct answer for Pentopia second puzzle. If possible can someone post the pentominos used for this? I am able to get one answer using N, I, L, F, X and T Pentomino but corner arrow is getting wrong while using this or I have to reflect one of Pentomino which is not allowed.
@ 2013-10-10 8:42 PM (#13144 - in reply to #13078) (#13144) Top

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MellowMelon posted @ 2013-10-10 8:42 PM

Rajesh: see if you can fix your solution by just completely dropping the I pentomino. (That last deduction made me laugh, by the way.)
@ 2013-10-10 8:51 PM (#13145 - in reply to #13144) (#13145) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2013-10-10 8:51 PM

MellowMelon - 2013-10-10 8:42 PM

Rajesh: see if you can fix your solution by just completely dropping the I pentomino. (That last deduction made me laugh, by the way.)


You are right! Dropping the I makes solution correct. Good puzzle. Enough space left to place one pentomino confused me and I made error placing I there and ending up having no solution.
@ 2013-10-10 9:43 PM (#13147 - in reply to #13144) (#13147) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-10-10 9:43 PM

MellowMelon - 2013-10-10 8:42 PM

(That last deduction made me laugh, by the way.)


Me too. I kept wondering during the solve if that empty space would be an L or an I, and it took a while to reach the actual solution, because I'm slow with reflecting pieces. Nice work to force nothingness.
@ 2013-10-11 3:23 AM (#13152 - in reply to #13078) (#13152) Top

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auroux posted @ 2013-10-11 3:23 AM

Wow, that was a very nice test! Didn't manage time very well, but all the puzzles I tried were a lot of fun...
@ 2013-10-11 4:35 AM (#13153 - in reply to #13078) (#13153) Top

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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-10-11 3:28 PM (#13156 - in reply to #13078) (#13156) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2013-10-11 3:28 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-10-11 9:02 PM (#13159 - in reply to #13078) (#13159) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2013-10-11 9:02 PM

 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-10-12 3:46 AM (#13161 - in reply to #13078) (#13161) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2013-10-12 3:46 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-10-12 1:24 PM (#13162 - in reply to #13078) (#13162) Top

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munna posted @ 2013-10-12 1:24 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-10-13 4:42 AM (#13164 - in reply to #13078) (#13164) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2013-10-13 4:42 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too few puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-10-13 11:32 AM (#13166 - in reply to #13078) (#13166) Top

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anderson posted @ 2013-10-13 11:32 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


It'd have been nice if the "pentominoes can't be reflected" rule were emphasized because I don't think it's standard (see Para's blog and USPC 2013, for example).

Or maybe I'm just a little annoyed because I spent lots of time on that puzzle thinking I screwed up because I thought it was non-unique, and eventually gave up >.<

Other than that, it was a lot of fun and the puzzles were well-constructed!
@ 2013-10-14 12:43 PM (#13169 - in reply to #13078) (#13169) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2013-10-14 12:43 PM

Solutions booklet uploaded. Link
@ 2013-10-15 4:44 PM (#13179 - in reply to #13078) (#13179) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2013-10-15 4:44 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right