WPC/WSC Croatia - details
@ 2012-07-03 9:17 AM (#7695) (#7695) Top

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Site
The WPC/WSC will take place in Uvala Scott Resort in a small village Kraljevica about 20 km south from Rijeka.
Here is the link for the hotel - http://www.jadran-hoteli.hr/uvala-scott/index_en.php

Date
The date remains as announced 01-07 October 2012.

Transport
There are 3 airports you can choose for your flights. The closest is in the Krk Island, Rijeka is about 30 minutes and the biggest one is in Zagreb (1,5hour by car)
Shuttle busses will be available for us during the whole event.


Schedule
The schedule still might change
Monday – arrival day, opening ceremony in the hotel
Tuesday – WSC
Wednesday – Sudoku final and trip in the afternoon with a dinner and WSC final ceremony outside the hotel
Thursday, Friday – WPC
Saturday – Puzzles final, closing ceremony
Sunday - Departures


Teams
Each country can choose two teams “A” and “B”, each team consisting of 4 members.

Participation fee
The participation fee for both championships should be 450 EUR for competitors as well for the guests. For the participants of WSC only the fee will be 250 Euros (arrival October 1st, departure October 4th). For the participants of WPC only the fee will be 400 Euros (arrival October 2nd departure October 7th).

Other
The official web and FB page should be launched in the next few days.
Booklet should be available 2 weeks prior to the event the latest.
@ 2012-07-09 10:31 AM (#7758 - in reply to #7695) (#7758) Top

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pavrose posted @ 2012-07-09 10:31 AM

Hey does this mean that the 16 folks who get selected from the 4 cities would all get to attend the WSC! Very curious to know....
@ 2012-07-09 10:52 AM (#7759 - in reply to #7758) (#7759) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2012-07-09 10:52 AM

pavrose - 2012-07-09 10:31 AM

Hey does this mean that the 16 folks who get selected from the 4 cities would all get to attend the WSC! Very curious to know....

Short answer - NO
Long answer - Rohan, please don't post confusing messages.
@ 2012-07-12 3:15 PM (#7798 - in reply to #7759) (#7798) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-07-12 3:15 PM

@ 2012-09-27 6:43 PM (#8671 - in reply to #7695) (#8671) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-09-27 6:43 PM

Best of luck to Indian team !! :)
@ 2012-10-01 9:01 PM (#8697 - in reply to #7695) (#8697) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2012-10-01 9:01 PM

Best of Luck to Indian Team. Do make India Proud.
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Tejal Phatak posted @ 2012-10-02 6:19 PM

Any updates of rounds till lunch?
@ 2012-10-02 7:19 PM (#8699 - in reply to #8698) (#8699) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2012-10-02 7:19 PM

Tejal Phatak - 2012-10-02 6:19 PM

Any updates of rounds till lunch?


The official website ( http://wscwpc2012.org/ ) is down now, so may be they are updating with results
@ 2012-10-02 7:32 PM (#8700 - in reply to #7695) (#8700) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2012-10-02 7:32 PM

Website is up now, but no results as of now.

@ 2012-10-02 9:14 PM (#8701 - in reply to #8700) (#8701) Top

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kishy72 posted @ 2012-10-02 9:14 PM

Is Dr.sudoku not playing?????i see him in the guest list of the WPF....is there some error?!.......really hard to believe it ...i checked the list thrice to make sure i have not seen wrongly...
and i m following the action in croatia through facebook though not much has been posted until now...expect more news tommorow ......
@ 2012-10-02 10:20 PM (#8702 - in reply to #8699) (#8702) Top

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kishy72 posted @ 2012-10-02 10:20 PM

debmohanty - 2012-10-02 7:19 PM

Tejal Phatak - 2012-10-02 6:19 PM

Any updates of rounds till lunch?


The official website ( http://wscwpc2012.org/ ) is down now, so may be they are updating with results


clear 1st ,2nd and third positions .....Rohan at 7th.But still the first round, things might change quickly



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@ 2012-10-03 12:36 AM (#8703 - in reply to #7695) (#8703) Top

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KimKing posted @ 2012-10-03 12:36 AM

Is it will be good if LMI can hold next sudoku and puzzle monthly test which will be look alike WSC/WPC? Create the same variants and formats using in Croatia WSC/WPC and this can give everybody who cannot go to Croatia to still have a taste at there.. and make group part competition (participant will may be given a group randomly or depend on rank) and using the playoff format to choose the top 8 (lot of sudokus and puzzles will be needed for sure).. Perhaps this can help others Indian to know WSC/WPC better..

Or maybe someday LMI can be the one to make WSC/WPC online version..

Edited by KimKing 2012-10-03 12:43 AM
@ 2012-10-03 1:17 AM (#8704 - in reply to #8703) (#8704) Top

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amitsowani posted @ 2012-10-03 1:17 AM

Rohan still 7th after 2nd round
Gaurav 22nd, Rakesh 30th
@ 2012-10-03 1:18 AM (#8705 - in reply to #8704) (#8705) Top

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amitsowani posted @ 2012-10-03 1:18 AM

Results are coming out slowly. So looks like other results might come only tomorrow morning
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Administrator posted @ 2012-10-03 5:08 AM

@ 2012-10-03 8:43 AM (#8707 - in reply to #7695) (#8707) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-10-03 8:43 AM

Updated till Round 5 - http://wscwpc2012.org/docs/WSC_rank_5.pdf (Rohan at 10th)
Team -> http://wscwpc2012.org/docs/WSC_team_rank_5.pdf (India at 6th)
@ 2012-10-03 10:15 AM (#8708 - in reply to #7695) (#8708) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-10-03 10:15 AM

Updated till Round 6 - http://wscwpc2012.org/docs/WSC_rank_6.pdf (Rohan slipped to 11th)
Team -> http://wscwpc2012.org/docs/WSC_team_rank_6.pdf (India at 6th)
@ 2012-10-03 11:35 AM (#8709 - in reply to #7695) (#8709) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-10-03 11:35 AM

Individual results after part 7 - http://wscwpc2012.org/docs/WSC_rank_7.pdf

Rohan Rao is 8th and has made it to the playoffs



Team -> http://wscwpc2012.org/docs/WSC_team_rank_7.pdf (India at 6th)
@ 2012-10-03 11:52 AM (#8710 - in reply to #8709) (#8710) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2012-10-03 11:52 AM

Congratulations Rohan.
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Edited by rakesh_rai 2012-10-03 11:52 AM
@ 2012-10-03 12:09 PM (#8711 - in reply to #7695) (#8711) Top

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macherlakumar posted @ 2012-10-03 12:09 PM

Congrats Rohan.

Regards,
Ravi
@ 2012-10-03 12:49 PM (#8712 - in reply to #7695) (#8712) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2012-10-03 12:49 PM

Congrats Rohan!
We are proud of you.

@ 2012-10-03 2:06 PM (#8713 - in reply to #7695) (#8713) Top

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dp_94 posted @ 2012-10-03 2:06 PM

congrats indian sudoku champ hope you will finish at top of the table
@ 2012-10-03 2:23 PM (#8714 - in reply to #7695) (#8714) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-10-03 2:23 PM

>>>

Rohan vs Kota just got over. Kota chose Irregular and wheels, Rohan chose medium classic. They never got to wheels as Kota won both the first 2. Both of them started with Rohan inching ahead, and at around 50-60 % of the grid, Kota suddenly got the logic and raced ahead while Rohan was staring. So, 8th it is, this year.

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@ 2012-10-03 2:27 PM (#8715 - in reply to #8714) (#8715) Top

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KimKing posted @ 2012-10-03 2:27 PM

Let just pray that Kota will win this year so your Indian participant, Rohan will be defeated in honor because he has to be against the champion at first playoff match?..
@ 2012-10-03 3:09 PM (#8716 - in reply to #7695) (#8716) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-10-03 3:09 PM

Some interesting read from Thomas - http://motris.livejournal.com/175114.html
@ 2012-10-03 9:32 PM (#8719 - in reply to #7695) (#8719) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-10-03 9:32 PM

Congrats Rohan !!
And seems Prasanna being unofficial performed well !! :)
And overall Indian Team too coming 8th :)
Congrats to all of you! :)
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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2012-10-03 9:35 PM

Congrats to all the team members for an excellent show....
@ 2012-10-03 9:36 PM (#8721 - in reply to #7695) (#8721) Top

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2012-10-03 9:36 PM

I think team India is at 7th position...
@ 2012-10-04 9:01 AM (#8722 - in reply to #8721) (#8722) Top

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harmeet posted @ 2012-10-04 9:01 AM

Congratulations Indian Sudoku Team... An excellent performance at the highest level!
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swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-10-04 6:41 PM

But the results pdf shows 8th.
neerajmehrotra - 2012-10-03 9:36 PM

I think team India is at 7th position...
@ 2012-10-04 8:50 PM (#8724 - in reply to #8723) (#8724) Top

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2012-10-04 8:50 PM

swaroop2011 - 2012-10-04 6:41 PM

But the results pdf shows 8th.
neerajmehrotra - 2012-10-03 9:36 PM

I think team India is at 7th position...


See here....

http://wscwpc2012.org/docs/WSC_team_rank_9.pdf
@ 2012-10-05 1:15 AM (#8725 - in reply to #7695) (#8725) Top

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macherlakumar posted @ 2012-10-05 1:15 AM

@ 2012-10-05 9:34 AM (#8726 - in reply to #7695) (#8726) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-10-05 9:34 AM

Updates till Round 4 - http://wscwpc2012.org/docs/WPC_rank_4.pdf - Amit is best placed Indian at 32 (O), and others are around 60.

Team Ranking - http://wscwpc2012.org/docs/WPC_team_rank_6.pdf
@ 2012-10-05 9:36 AM (#8727 - in reply to #7695) (#8727) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-10-05 9:36 AM

Updates about different rounds and the puzzles at http://mellowmelon.wordpress.com/2012/10/04/ and at http://motris.livejournal.com/2012/10/04/
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swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-10-05 1:47 PM

neerajmehrotra - 2012-10-04 8:50 PM

swaroop2011 - 2012-10-04 6:41 PM

But the results pdf shows 8th.
neerajmehrotra - 2012-10-03 9:36 PM

I think team India is at 7th position...


See here....

http://wscwpc2012.org/docs/WSC_team_rank_9.pdf


My mistake sorry for that
That day IN some pdf it was shown 8 may be that was till part 8 i dunno..
Anyways 7 is better than 8th :P :)
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anurag posted @ 2012-10-05 4:01 PM

Very well done indian team and Rohan!Hope you can climb up a few places to the top 5 next time.
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rajeshk posted @ 2012-10-06 6:58 AM

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vopani posted @ 2012-10-06 11:39 AM

Final Ranks:

32nd Amit Sowani
38th Rohan Rao
45th Prasanna Seshadri
61st Rakesh Rai

12th Team India

Edited by Rohan Rao 2012-10-06 10:18 PM
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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-10-06 9:13 PM

After the team results it seems India are 12th. We moved up one place after the instruction-less round.
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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-10-06 9:18 PM

swaroop2011 - 2012-10-05 1:47 PM

My mistake sorry for that
That day IN some pdf it was shown 8 may be that was till part 8 i dunno..
Anyways 7 is better than 8th :P :)


Not your mistake. They awarded the USA team 100 points for no reason and then took it back, meaning India climbed up.
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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-10-06 9:29 PM

I see no mention of my heroic one-man performance in the Team rounds for India B in Sudoku :P Anyways, just came online from the reception here for a while, so just thought I'd mention that as it was the one good thing I did all week
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kishy72 posted @ 2012-10-06 10:01 PM

http://mellowmelon.wordpress.com/
an interesting and limpid narration of what happened in the puzzle playoffs from melons blog....would be nice if someone gave an account of what happened in the sudoku playoffs
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swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-10-06 11:37 PM

Congrats to Amit, Rohan, Prasanna and Rakesh :)
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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-10-09 4:46 AM

kishy72 - 2012-10-06 10:01 PM

http://mellowmelon.wordpress.com/
an interesting and limpid narration of what happened in the puzzle playoffs from melons blog....would be nice if someone gave an account of what happened in the sudoku playoffs


Well I saw Thomas'(motris) blog post during the competition and I think it covered the Sudoku play-offs well, I don't think anything dramatic happened after the Jakub incident which was highly unfair on him. Jan and Kota spent a long time on an Irregular Diagonal, and just as Thomas remarked about a certain piece of logic they were missing, some 10-15 minutes in, Jan found it. Apart from that, not much to report except the results which I guess are visible on the site.
@ 2012-10-09 6:42 AM (#8743 - in reply to #8742) (#8743) Top

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motris posted @ 2012-10-09 6:42 AM

Prasanna is right; the most interesting remaining aspect of the sudoku playoffs besides the mistakes that frustrated me in my post, was a particularly hard puzzle that took Jan and Kota over 15 minutes to solve (18 total? I'm not sure). A lot of this was not the puzzle -- it was not WSC1 toroidal difficulty level certainly -- and I think was 50% simply the large format affecting them in different ways. Jan made a mistake, had to restart, and used first red circles to mark correct digits in blue and then only wrote red notes and red numbers. You can see his struggle a bit in this photo below -- view the zoom in for the red versus blue note situation. Kota was always on a correct path but just very, very slow. Since I consider these two the best in the world at jigsaw variants, it was a shock to see that result. After Jan finally finished (when we were worried the round might run forever, with the rules not having any way for a puzzle to end) that made the finals 2-1 for Jan. After another Jigsaw interlinked grid Jan secured the win.



Edited by motris 2012-10-09 6:46 AM
@ 2012-10-09 1:11 PM (#8745 - in reply to #7695) (#8745) Top

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anurag posted @ 2012-10-09 1:11 PM

The nature of playoffs(puzzle selection,dynamic pool,etc) was much criticized.The considerable variance between standings before playoffs and after playoffs also points to the fact that the format played disturbed the setup on the top.This format had a small postitive that let players like Ulrich cleverly gain some advantage(a lot has been said about that) but perhaps a major
downside which lets you run away with your strong puzzles.Playoffs in future should be more 'learned' in the sense that every player has his weak puzzles(even the champion had a couple ) and if a playoff forces each finalist to do a number of silghtly easier different types(still a single digit figure) ,and those types manage to cover each player's weak ones too(this will not always happen).Not all of that could be done, but something on these lines is really worth.
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vopani posted @ 2012-10-09 11:04 PM

LoL!
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Quarterfinal 1 video (Jakub vs Hideaki)