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prasanna16391
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This annual contest shall take place from 16-23 April 2023.
More details shall be shared in subsequent posts soon.
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prasanna16391
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prasanna16391
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Country : India | Some notes about April Contest 2023Please note this contest will have a slightly different format than regular LMI tests.
Key differences from regular LMI tests:
1. There is no IB (i.e. no Instructions Booklet). If you have any questions about any puzzle, please ask here in the forum.
2. The PB (Puzzle Booklet) does not have any password.
3. You can download the pdf and start solving. Login at the contest page and click on "Start test" to start submitting.
4. There is no time limit other than the 1 week duration. You can submit until the contest ends.
5. There will be some optimizer puzzles. Other puzzles will be very hard (compared to regular LMI tests)
6. Same scores will have same rank (i.e. early submissions do not count towards rank)
Other important points:
7. There shall be no instant grading in this test.
8. There shall be no online solving interface (like penpa) provided for this test.
9. The score page shall be made available later.
10. There shall be 10 pages in the Puzzle Booklet.
11. Participants can submit answers any number of times. The last submission shall be considered for scoring.
12. There shall be no separate notification on submitting answers.
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vjain9
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Country : India | vjain9 posted @ 2023-04-16 10:34 AM Puzzle booklet yet to be uploaded ? Timer has started though ! |
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auroux
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Country : France | auroux posted @ 2023-04-16 11:53 AM Now that the contest has started, is the puzzle booklet coming soon? |
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Puzlifouk
Posts: 67
Country : France | Hi everybody,
What is going on with this contest? It seems open, but without a puzzle booklet, it is effectively closed. And the messages in the discussion thread are not readable, even when you are logged in. Can we have some information? |
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puzzler05
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Country : South Korea | still+no+booklet.... |
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prasanna16391
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Country : India | Note: Sorry about the puzzle booklet. I missed a command that shows it. Its up now. I'll extend the contest end by a day to compensate. |
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Puzlifouk
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Country : France | Hello again. For puzzle 9 (Open road): Do you confirm not all double cells must have a one-half shaded? |
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auroux
Posts: 145
Country : France | auroux posted @ 2023-04-16 6:36 PM For+puzzle+2%2c+the+answer+key+of+the+example+seems+wrong+(should+be+WWWIW). |
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Administrator
Country : India | I confirm the other way: all double cells must have one half shaded and the other used. |
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Administrator
Country : India | Auroux: You are right. The answer key for example 2 is wrong and there should be an I instead of an L. |
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Puzlifouk
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Country : France | OK! So that means half shaded cell may touch a shaded cell, at least diagonally!
In fact, my initial problem was that I inderstood ths conditions as :
- all double cells must have a shaded half and an unshaded half;
- all shaded cells and all shaded half of double cells do not touch.
But these two conditions cannot both be verified. If they were, this creates problem around the magenta and the lemon M.
So I have a new question: if a shaded half of a double celle can touch a shaded cell (or another shaded half of a double cell), is it necessarily diagonally, or can it also be orthogonally? Am I clear? |
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Administrator
Country : India | Shaded cells cannot touch orthogonally. They can touch diagonally. (This is for puzzle 9) |
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Puzlifouk
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Country : France | Administrator - 2023-04-16 7:43 PM
Shaded cells cannot touch orthogonally. They can touch diagonally. (This is for puzzle 9)
OK Thanks. The puzzle booklet says something else ("The shaded cells do not touch, not even diagonally" ). It will be corrected, I suppose ... |
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Administrator
Country : India | Yes we will get it corrected soon. |
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Puzlifouk
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Country : France | Hello. New question about problem 10. What is the order of priority of the operations? Are the operations performed in the order they are found or do multiplication (X) and division (/) have priority? In other words, do we have 9-6/3=(9-6)/3=1 or 9-6/3=9-(6/3)=7? |
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prasanna16391
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Country : India | The rules say "without parenthesis" which means they are performed in the order they are found. |
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Barbitos
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Country : France | %5BQUOTE%5D8%2E+There+shall+be+no+online+solving+interface+%28like+penpa%29+provided+for+this+test%2E%5B%2FQUOTE%5D%0D%0A%0D%0AAre+we+still+allowed+to+use+penpa+to+copy+the+puzzles+and+solve+them+if+we%27re+more+confortable+with+it%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AAlso%2C+to+what+extent+are+we+allowed+to+use+calculators+and+other+programs%3F+I%27m+guessing+the+line+is+drawn+at+something+like+%22only+what+you+could+do+on+windows%27+calculator+app%22+or+%22no+calculators+allowed+period%22%0D%0A%0D%0AI+couldn%27t+find+any+clear+ruleset+for+this+contest%2C+if+there+are+i+would+like+to+know+where+it+is+%F0%9F%98%8A |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | Puzlifouk - 2023-04-17 11:50 AM
Hello. New question about problem 10. What is the order of priority of the operations? Are the operations performed in the order they are found or do multiplication (X) and division (/) have priority? In other words, do we have 9-6/3=(9-6)/3=1 or 9-6/3=9-(6/3)=7?
9-6/3=7. The priority of operations is standard. |
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prasanna16391
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Country : India | prasanna16391 - 2023-04-17 2:36 PM
The rules say "without parenthesis" which means they are performed in the order they are found.
Sorry, guess I was a bit wrong here, please follow what Riad says. |
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prasanna16391
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Country : India | %5BQUOTE%5DBarbitos+%2D+2023%2D04%2D17++6%3A11+PM%0D%0A%0D%0AAre+we+still+allowed+to+use+penpa+to+copy+the+puzzles+and+solve+them+if+we%27re+more+confortable+with+it%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AAlso%2C+to+what+extent+are+we+allowed+to+use+calculators+and+other+programs%3F+I%27m+guessing+the+line+is+drawn+at+something+like+%22only+what+you+could+do+on+windows%27+calculator+app%22+or+%22no+calculators+allowed+period%22%0D%0A%0D%0AI+couldn%27t+find+any+clear+ruleset+for+this+contest%2C+if+there+are+i+would+like+to+know+where+it+is+%F0%9F%98%8A%5B%2FQUOTE%5D%0D%0A%0D%0ARedrawing+on+Penpa+is+fine%2E+There+is+no+rule+against+using+calculators+and+other+programs%2C+but+the+contest+was+intended+to+be+done+without+them%2E+I+suppose+your+line+is+a+good+line+to+draw%2E+ |
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auroux
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Country : France | auroux posted @ 2023-04-17 8:54 PM On puzzle 10, does a circular equality loop "all around" with equal signs separating equal terms (in particular there must be at least two = signs), or do we get to "break the circle" where we want (not necessarily at an equality sign, and not necessarily in the same place in both directions) to form equalities that can be read clockwise or counterclockwise?
Concretely, if for some digits A,B,C,D,E one had the identities A_PLUS_BC=DEF and ED=CB_PLUS_AF, where the latter can be formed by writing the former around a circle, cutting in a different place, and reading in the other direction, would this be a valid solution ? Or is the only legal way to write the identity A_PLUS_BC=DEF to actually write "A_PLUS_BC=DEF=" around the circle (with an extra equal sign) and both expressions must be formed by cutting the circle at an "=" sign ?
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auroux
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Country : France | auroux posted @ 2023-04-17 8:59 PM After more thinking, I assume the correct interpretation is that we can break the circle anywhere we want (not necessarily at an = sign, and not necessarily in the same place in both directions), and that the example I gave would be a valid solution. Otherwise, it would have been easier to state the problem as producing an equality which is valid when read forwards and backwards (no need to use a circle). |
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jeff10
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Country : United States | jeff10 posted @ 2023-04-17 9:26 PM For the Bubbles Puzzle (Puzzle 2), do bubbles have to circle completely around an NxN (N=1,2,3) square of cells, or can a bubble of "size 3" only circle 3 of the leftmost cells while the center of the bubble is outside the grid? |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | auroux - 2023-04-17 8:54 PM
On puzzle 10, does a circular equality loop "all around" with equal signs separating equal terms (in particular there must be at least two = signs), or do we get to "break the circle" where we want (not necessarily at an equality sign, and not necessarily in the same place in both directions) to form equalities that can be read clockwise or counterclockwise?
Concretely, if for some digits A,B,C,D,E one had the identities A_PLUS_BC=DEF and ED=CB_PLUS_AF, where the latter can be formed by writing the former around a circle, cutting in a different place, and reading in the other direction, would this be a valid solution ? Or is the only legal way to write the identity A_PLUS_BC=DEF to actually write "A_PLUS_BC=DEF=" around the circle (with an extra equal sign) and both expressions must be formed by cutting the circle at an "=" sign ?
You can't break the expression wherever you want. If you write down your expressions many times in a row (or read in a circle an infinite number of times ), then you should get the right equality. In the example , you can write 68=45_PLUS_23=68=45_PLUS_23=68= etc. |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | auroux - 2023-04-17 8:59 PM
After more thinking, I assume the correct interpretation is that we can break the circle anywhere we want (not necessarily at an = sign, and not necessarily in the same place in both directions), and that the example I gave would be a valid solution. Otherwise, it would have been easier to state the problem as producing an equality which is valid when read forwards and backwards (no need to use a circle).
The circle is used in the construction of letter palindromes, which are read an infinite number of times clockwise and counterclockwise, but sometimes giving different phrases. In Russia, such constructions are called cyclodromes. |
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auroux
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Country : France | auroux posted @ 2023-04-18 12:21 AM Riad Khanmagomedov - 2023-04-17 11:06 AMYou can't break the expression wherever you want. If you write down your expressions many times in a row (or read in a circle an infinite number of times), then you should get the right equality. In the example , you can write 68=45_PLUS_23=68=45_PLUS_23=68= etc.
Ok, thanks. But, uh, wait. Now I am concerned. Is there, then, a requirement to have at least two equal signs?
Otherwise, something like '98765*43210=' around the circle produces a valid equality when reading around the circle infinitely many times: 98765*43210=98765*43210=98765*43210=...
But this seems to violate the spirit of the puzzle, or at least there isn't much optimization left to do in this version.
And for completeness, can you clarify what exactly you expect in the answer key? The example given for the answer format only has one = sign given for each direction, even though there are two reading around the circle, so do we answer by giving what you get by cutting the circle open at an '=' sign and reading everything from just after that '=' sign to just before it, but not including the '=' sign along which we cut?
Sorry to be picky about details, but I think people spending time on this puzzle want to make sure that they are working on the correct version of it...
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prasanna16391
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Country : India | jeff10 - 2023-04-17 9:26 PM
For the Bubbles Puzzle (Puzzle 2), do bubbles have to circle completely around an NxN (N=1,2,3) square of cells, or can a bubble of "size 3" only circle 3 of the leftmost cells while the center of the bubble is outside the grid?
The former. |
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prasanna16391
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Country : India | A new puzzle booklet has been uploaded to address some of the issues discussed in the previous page (puzzle 9 wording and puzzle 2 example's key) |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | auroux - 2023-04-18 12:21 AM
Riad Khanmagomedov - 2023-04-17 11:06 AMYou can't break the expression wherever you want. If you write down your expressions many times in a row (or read in a circle an infinite number of times), then you should get the right equality. In the example , you can write 68=45_PLUS_23=68=45_PLUS_23=68= etc.
Ok, thanks. But, uh, wait. Now I am concerned. Is there, then, a requirement to have at least two equal signs?
Otherwise, something like '98765*43210=' around the circle produces a valid equality when reading around the circle infinitely many times: 98765*43210=98765*43210=98765*43210=...
But this seems to violate the spirit of the puzzle, or at least there isn't much optimization left to do in this version.
And for completeness, can you clarify what exactly you expect in the answer key? The example given for the answer format only has one = sign given for each direction, even though there are two reading around the circle, so do we answer by giving what you get by cutting the circle open at an '=' sign and reading everything from just after that '=' sign to just before it, but not including the '=' sign along which we cut?
Sorry to be picky about details, but I think people spending time on this puzzle want to make sure that they are working on the correct version of it...
Thanks,Denis
You must have 2, 3 or more equal signs. You can also get the equality 1 = 3-2 = 5-4 = with three equal signs and write it out endlessly in a circle. But at the same time, in the opposite direction, it must also be true. |
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auroux
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Country : France | auroux posted @ 2023-04-18 11:40 AM Ok thank you! Now it is clear. |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | auroux - 2023-04-18 11:40 AM
Ok thank you! Now it is clear.
It is allowed to use arithmetic signs on both sides of the equal sign. |
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Leonardo024
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Country : The Netherlands | For puzzle 5 (Navigation), the instruction says to form 8 connected areas along the grid lines, however only 6 letters are given. Does this imply that the other two regions do not occur in the 2 columns of the answer format (column 4 and 9)? Since the answer page also asks for digits and/or letters A-F (rather than A-H for 8 areas instead of 6). |
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Administrator
Country : India | If you try the puzzle your question will be answered. |
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Nikola
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Country : Serbia | Nikola posted @ 2023-04-19 3:20 PM Puzzle 10
Can we create equality without directly expressed result? For the example, is 32_PLUS_54=86_PLUS_0= allowed? Maybe this is a bad example because of zero but I hope you understand the question. |
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auroux
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Country : France | auroux posted @ 2023-04-19 3:55 PM Nikola: I think the answer is yes, and this is exactly what Riad meant when he wrote to me that "It is allowed to use arithmetic signs on both sides of the equal sign." What I am not sure about, though, is whether the answer key should include the final "=" (even though it is there when writing around the circle) - my current understanding based on the PB example is that the circular identity "32_PLUS_54=86_PLUS_0=..." is entered as "32_PLUS_54=86_PLUS_0" for the answer key.
Edited by auroux 2023-04-19 3:57 PM
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Nikola
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Country : Serbia | Nikola posted @ 2023-04-19 4:27 PM Okay, but in his example he still got a result 1 (in one direction). Another example: 9x2=6x3= ... I don't want to put =18 because it would give 81 in the opposite direction. Maybe confirmation would be useful.
Edited by Nikola 2023-04-19 4:35 PM
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L00ping007
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Country : France | In puzzle 10, there is a digit missing in the "Answer key" sentence
"68=45_PLUS_23, 32_PLUS_54=8" should be ", 68=45_PLUS_23, 32_PLUS_54=86" ;-) |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | Nikola - 2023-04-19 3:20 PM
Puzzle 10
Can we create equality without directly expressed result? For the example, is 32_PLUS_54=86_PLUS_0= allowed? Maybe this is a bad example because of zero but I hope you understand the question.
Yes |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | auroux - 2023-04-19 3:55 PM
Nikola: I think the answer is yes, and this is exactly what Riad meant when he wrote to me that "It is allowed to use arithmetic signs on both sides of the equal sign." What I am not sure about, though, is whether the answer key should include the final "=" (even though it is there when writing around the circle) - my current understanding based on the PB example is that the circular identity "32_PLUS_54=86_PLUS_0=..." is entered as "32_PLUS_54=86_PLUS_0" for the answer key.
In this case, write the answer as follows: 32_PLUS_54=86_PLUS_0 and 0_PLUS_68= 45_PLUS_23. |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | Nikola - 2023-04-19 4:27 PM
Okay, but in his example he still got a result 1 (in one direction). Another example: 9x2=6x3= ... I don't want to put =18 because it would give 81 in the opposite direction. Maybe confirmation would be useful.
I gave an example with 1 to demonstrate three equal signs. This example is more successful: 7-6=5-4=3-2=7-6=5-4=3-2= etc. |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | L00ping007 - 2023-04-19 4:47 PM
In puzzle 10, there is a digit missing in the "Answer key" sentence
"68=45_PLUS_23, 32_PLUS_54=8" should be ", 68=45_PLUS_23, 32_PLUS_54=86" ;-)
I'll correct it, thank you! |
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Barbitos
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Country : France | On Puzzle 11; does the minesweeper part in itself have to be unique or can it have multiple solutions but only one mine-loops pairing? |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | Barbitos - 2023-04-19 10:22 PM
On Puzzle 11; does the minesweeper part in itself have to be unique or can it have multiple solutions but only one mine-loops pairing?
Quote from the text: "Create a Minesweeper puzzle with a unique solution". |
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Barbitos
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Country : France | thanks :) i figured that was probably the case but wanted to make sure
also thanks for hosting this contest, i'm having a blast solving those devilish puzzles |
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auroux
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Country : France | auroux posted @ 2023-04-20 12:54 AM Riad Khanmagomedov - 2023-04-19 10:39 AM Barbitos - 2023-04-19 10:22 PMOn Puzzle 11; does the minesweeper part in itself have to be unique or can it have multiple solutions but only one mine-loops pairing? Quote from the text: "Create a Minesweeper puzzle with a unique solution". Oh, that's so disappointing. It would have been more elegant to have to create a puzzle whose solution is unique when one takes into account the requirement that there should exist a loop (but which may have multiple solutions as a pure minesweeper puzzle ) -- so much so that I assumed that it was actually the task. Oh well, I shall redo it to make something that is also unique as a minesweeper puzzle. I was so happy with my submission, but it's definitely not unique at all as a minesweeper. |
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pinkagape
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Country : United Kingdom | In Puzzle 6, I'm a bit confused by the "vice versa" in the instructions for Turns. Is it saying that if the loop doesn't turn and enters a cell without a circle, then it must turn in the next cell (so you can't have more than one straight in a row)? |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | auroux - 2023-04-20 12:54 AM
Riad Khanmagomedov - 2023-04-19 10:39 AM Barbitos - 2023-04-19 10:22 PMOn Puzzle 11; does the minesweeper part in itself have to be unique or can it have multiple solutions but only one mine-loops pairing? Quote from the text: "Create a Minesweeper puzzle with a unique solution". Oh, that's so disappointing. It would have been more elegant to have to create a puzzle whose solution is unique when one takes into account the requirement that there should exist a loop (but which may have multiple solutions as a pure minesweeper puzzle ) -- so much so that I assumed that it was actually the task. Oh well, I shall redo it to make something that is also unique as a minesweeper puzzle. I was so happy with my submission, but it's definitely not unique at all as a minesweeper.
Denis, I will check the uniqueness of the Minesweeper puzzle, and then watch a loop. |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | pinkagape - 2023-04-20 10:57 AM
In Puzzle 6, I'm a bit confused by the "vice versa" in the instructions for Turns. Is it saying that if the loop doesn't turn and enters a cell without a circle, then it must turn in the next cell (so you can't have more than one straight in a row)?
In this part of the grid, the line behaves like in the puzzle "Every second turn". If there was a turn in a circle, then the next turn will be in a cell without a circle, then again in a circle, etc. |
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L00ping007
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Country : France | Puzzle 6
"It is also possible for the line to make a turn and leave the grid, in this case it can turn in the next grid before meeting a circle."
Is there a vice versa too ? When the last turn before leaving the grid is a circle ?
Isn't it more accurate to say :
"It is also possible for the line to make a turn and leave the grid, in this case :
- if the last turn in the grid isn't a circle, it can turn in the next grid before meeting a circle.
- if the last turn in the grid is a circle, it can turn in the next grid at a circle"
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prasanna16391
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Country : India | A new puzzle booklet has been uploaded with changes to the text in Puzzle 10's rules, to reflect the discussions here. |
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prasanna16391
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Country : India | L00ping007 - 2023-04-20 5:18 PM
Puzzle 6
"It is also possible for the line to make a turn and leave the grid, in this case it can turn in the next grid before meeting a circle."
Is there a vice versa too ? When the last turn before leaving the grid is a circle ?
Isn't it more accurate to say :
"It is also possible for the line to make a turn and leave the grid, in this case :
- if the last turn in the grid isn't a circle, it can turn in the next grid before meeting a circle.
- if the last turn in the grid is a circle, it can turn in the next grid at a circle"
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Yes, this is what is intended to be conveyed. |
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EoHeongMat
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Country : South Korea | Puzzle 12
Must all words be connected? |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | EoHeongMat - 2023-04-21 12:02 AM
Puzzle 12
Must all words be connected?
Yes, of course. |
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auroux
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Country : France | auroux posted @ 2023-04-21 3:39 PM Riad Khanmagomedov - 2023-04-20 11:35 PM EoHeongMat - 2023-04-21 12:02 AMPuzzle 12Must all words be connected? Yes, of course. Well, that's not what the PB says. "Each name should intersect with at least one other" is not the same thing, and would be redundant if all words were connected.Another 12 hours of time wasted on solving one of these with the wrong set of instructions, and this time I don't think it was entirely my fault... (Sorry for being negative. But it is extremely frustrating. ) |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | auroux - 2023-04-21 3:39 PM
Riad Khanmagomedov - 2023-04-20 11:35 PM EoHeongMat - 2023-04-21 12:02 AMPuzzle 12Must all words be connected? Yes, of course. Well, that's not what the PB says. "Each name should intersect with at least one other" is not the same thing, and would be redundant if all words were connected.Another 12 hours of time wasted on solving one of these with the wrong set of instructions, and this time I don't think it was entirely my fault... (Sorry for being negative. But it is extremely frustrating. )
PB says make a crossword. One, not several crosswords. If the words are not related to each other, then you will get several crosswords. |
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-..ferchx..-
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Country : Spain | Congratulations Riyadh. Hours of fun await me at your expense. |
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-..ferchx..-
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Country : Spain | -..ferchx..- - 2023-04-21 7:15 PM
Congratulations Riad. Hours of fun thanks to you. |
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pinkagape
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Country : United Kingdom | Can+someone+clarify+the+cut+off+time+for+this+contest+please%3F+It+would+be+easier+if+it+was+23%3A59+or+00%3A01+because+then+we%E2%80%99d+know+which+day+we+were+talking+about%2E |
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Administrator
Country : India | Consider it as 23:59 on 24th. |
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L00ping007
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Country : France | Puzzle 11
"Create a Minesweeper puzzle with a unique solution in the 9x9grid"
Do we agree that the instructions to solve a Minesweeper include a given number of mines to find ? As in Puzzle 6 for exemple
A grid could have multiple solutions without that number of mines, but when it is given as an instruction, the solution can become unique
The grid I submitted needs that number to have a unique solution
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | L00ping007 - 2023-04-22 6:56 AM
Puzzle 11
"Create a Minesweeper puzzle with a unique solution in the 9x9grid"
Do we agree that the instructions to solve a Minesweeper include a given number of mines to find ? As in Puzzle 6 for exemple
A grid could have multiple solutions without that number of mines, but when it is given as an instruction, the solution can become unique
The grid I submitted needs that number to have a unique solution
Create a classic Minesweeper puzzle in which the number of mines is not given. |
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dissertationhelpinuk
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Country : United Kingdom | Created a Minesweeper puzzle with a unique solution in the 9x9grid |
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krasnosulinec1797
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forcolin
Posts: 172
Country : ITALY | puzzle 12. is it acceptable if two words partially overlap? eg 0L6ARANCE if so how many times will the 6 count?
stefano |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
Posts: 233
Country : Russia | %5BQUOTE%5Dkrasnosulinec1797+%2D+2023%2D04%2D22++4%3A36+PM%0D%0A%0D%0A%D0%97%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D1%83%D0%B9%2C%D0%A0%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%B4%21%0D%0A%D0%A3+%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%8F+%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81+%D0%BF%D0%BE+%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5+9%2E%0D%0A%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%83%D1%82+%D0%BB%D0%B8+%D0%B4%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5+%D1%8F%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BA%D0%B8+%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C%D1%81%D1%8F+%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C%D1%8E+%D0%BD%D0%B5+%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%BC%D0%B8%3F%0D%0A%D0%94%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B9%2E%5B%2FQUOTE%5D%0D%0A%D0%97%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D1%83%D0%B9%2C+%D0%94%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B0%21+%0D%0A%D0%9D%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%BD%D0%BE+%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8C+%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B8+%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%B5%D1%85+%D1%81%D0%B4%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D1%85+%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BA%2E |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
Posts: 233
Country : Russia | forcolin - 2023-04-22 4:48 PM
puzzle 12. is it acceptable if two words partially overlap? eg 0L6ARANCE if so how many times will the 6 count?
stefano
Hi Stefano,
This is unacceptable. There must be at least one empty cell between two words. |
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NGC 1535
Posts: 2
Country : China | Puzzle 12
Can two vertical words touch but not intersect each other? |
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Eugene
Posts: 4
Country : Russia | Eugene posted @ 2023-04-23 2:16 PM Puzzle 2
Can we draw circle such that some its squares were outside the grid? |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
Posts: 233
Country : Russia | Eugene - 2023-04-23 2:16 PM
Puzzle 2
Can we draw circle such that some its squares were outside the grid?
No, the squares should be inside the grid. |
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NGC 1535
Posts: 2
Country : China | Puzzle 12
Can two vertical words touch but not intersect each other?
Besides, I hope there are more details about how to create a crossword to make it clearer. |
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Barbitos
Posts: 6
Country : France | When is the contest ending exactly? because if that is anytime later than Midnight IST in the night from the 23th to 24th of april (in 3h20), i won't be able to submit answers after that
If that is the case, do i send an email to logicmasteradmin@gmail.com as if the website was down?
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Administrator
Country : India | Barbitos - 2023-04-23 8:48 PM
When is the contest ending exactly? because if that is anytime later than Midnight IST in the night from the 23th to 24th of april (in 3h20), i won't be able to submit answers after that
If that is the case, do i send an email to logicmasteradmin@gmail.com as if the website was down?
Ya you can but let us know in the mail why you're unable to submit answers. |
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auroux
Posts: 145
Country : France | auroux posted @ 2023-04-24 1:56 AM Administrator - 2023-04-23 12:47 PMYa you can but let us know in the mail why you're unable to submit answers. The most obvious reason would be that everyone who started this contest before the end time was extended has had a countdown clock that expired a few hours ago and for us the LMI platform says the contest is over. (When the end of the contest was extended, the submission deadlines for those who had already started the contest did not get extended ). (As for myself I don't care because I finished everything I wanted to do, assuming no further surprises about previously unexplained rules that change the nature of any puzzles ).-- Denis Edited by auroux 2023-04-24 1:56 AM
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1777
Country : India | Oof I genuinely missed that the countdown clock and the end time setting are differently coded for this contest. We will try to reset it but yes we will accept submissions via email for now. Thanks for pointing this out. |
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Administrator
Country : India | The timer issue is now fixed and submissions can be made till the actual contest end. |
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debmohanty
Country : India | Optimizer SubmissionsSubmissions to Optimizer puzzles here. Puzzle 11 and 12 are not checked for correctness. If you notice any incorrect submissions, please help Riad by reporting them.
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L00ping007
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Country : France | Puzzle+11%0D%0A%0D%0AScores+5%2C11%2C14+are+miscalculated%0D%0AI+can%27t+find+a+unique+solution+for+the+22+score%2E%0D%0ANo+unique+solution+either+for+the+submission+with+%2A+scoring+21+%28and+there+are+only+5+%2A+around+the+6+in+the+lower+right+corner%29%0D%0A%0D%0AIt%27s+quite+fun+to+solve+manually+the+best+submissions+%2C+some+of+them+are+very+elegant+%21+%F0%9F%91%8F%F0%9F%91%8F%0D%0A
Edited by L00ping007 2023-04-25 3:50 PM
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Riad Khanmagomedov
Posts: 233
Country : Russia | %5BQUOTE%5DL00ping007+%2D+2023%2D04%2D25++3%3A39+PM%0D%0A%0D%0APuzzle+11%0D%0A%0D%0AScores+5%2C11%2C14+are+miscalculated%0D%0AI+can%27t+find+a+unique+solution+for+the+22+score%2E%0D%0ANo+unique+solution+either+for+the+submission+with+%2A+scoring+21+%28and+there+are+only+5+%2A+around+the+6+in+the+lower+right+corner%29%0D%0A%0D%0AIt%27s+quite+fun+to+solve+manually+the+best+submissions+%2C+some+of+them+are+very+elegant+%21+%F0%9F%91%8F%F0%9F%91%8F%0D%0A%5B%2FQUOTE%5D%0D%0AThere+were+errors+in+some+of+the+answers%2E+%0D%0AI+also+enjoyed+solving+the+Minesweeper+puzzles%2E%0D%0APreliminary+results+have+been+published%2E |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
Posts: 233
Country : Russia | Congratulations to Denis, Valentin and Paul! |
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auroux
Posts: 145
Country : France | auroux posted @ 2023-04-26 1:24 AM Thank you Riad for what was a very nice (and challenging) contest as usual.
And sorry I wrote some grumpy messages about unclear rules for the optimizer puzzles, it was frustrating in the moment but in retrospect it wasn't such a big deal.
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Riad Khanmagomedov
Posts: 233
Country : Russia | auroux - 2023-04-26 1:24 AM
Thank you Riad for what was a very nice (and challenging) contest as usual.
And sorry I wrote some grumpy messages about unclear rules for the optimizer puzzles, it was frustrating in the moment but in retrospect it wasn't such a big deal.
Denis
Thank you Denis!
I want to thank all the participants and everyone who helped me in the organization. See you soon! |
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Leonardo024
Posts: 14
Country : The Netherlands | Thanks for the beautiful contest & congrats do Denis for the victory and everyone else on their efforts as well!
Moreover, I unfortunately submitted column 3 instead of 4 on accident for Navigation, but I have a downloaded image (with time stamp within contest time) of the correct solution that I took from Penpa after finishing the puzzle there, is there a way for me to claim those 6 points, Riad? Or is it just unfortunate? |
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Leonardo024
Posts: 14
Country : The Netherlands | Oh%2C+and+I+also+just+noticed+that+I+got+no+points+for+my+submission+of+score+26+to+%22Sapper+Way%22%2C+which+should+net+me+6+points+just+like+Barbitos%2C+Lemesh%2C+leoranger+and+L00ping007%2E+I+just+checked+my+submission+in+the+file+of+%22Optimizer+Solutions%22+and+I+did+send+in+the+correct+one%2C+no+typo+here+%28others+can+verify%29%2E%0D%0A%0D%0AThanks+in+advance+for+looking+into+this+%E2%9D%A4%EF%B8%8F |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
Posts: 233
Country : Russia | %5BQUOTE%5DLeonardo024+%2D+2023%2D04%2D26++2%3A34+PM%0D%0A%0D%0AOh%2C+and+I+also+just+noticed+that+I+got+no+points+for+my+submission+of+score+26+to+%22Sapper+Way%22%2C+which+should+net+me+6+points+just+like+Barbitos%2C+Lemesh%2C+leoranger+and+L00ping007%2E+I+just+checked+my+submission+in+the+file+of+%22Optimizer+Solutions%22+and+I+did+send+in+the+correct+one%2C+no+typo+here+%28others+can+verify%29%2E%0D%0A%0D%0AThanks+in+advance+for+looking+into+this+%E2%9D%A4%EF%B8%8F%5B%2FQUOTE%5D%0D%0AI+have+noted+that+you+received+6+points%2E+I+now+understand+that+these+points+are+awarded+to+Leoranger%2E+not+Leonardo%2E+We%27ll+fix+everything%2E |
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Administrator
Country : India | Leonardo024 - 2023-04-26 2:09 PM
Thanks for the beautiful contest & congrats do Denis for the victory and everyone else on their efforts as well!
Moreover, I unfortunately submitted column 3 instead of 4 on accident for Navigation, but I have a downloaded image (with time stamp within contest time) of the correct solution that I took from Penpa after finishing the puzzle there, is there a way for me to claim those 6 points, Riad? Or is it just unfortunate?
Can you mail your image to logicmasteradmin@gmail.com? We will look into it. |
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Leonardo024
Posts: 14
Country : The Netherlands | Done! |
Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 16th to 23nd April 2023