Converse & Twisted Classics - 12th-15th January - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier
@ 2018-01-07 10:32 PM (#23957) (#23957) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-07 10:32 PM

Details coming soon !
@ 2018-01-09 12:38 PM (#23961 - in reply to #23957) (#23961) Top

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Link for rules and other details about Sudoku Mahabharat : http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/2018sm.asp
Instructions for Converse and Twisted Classics - http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/201801/

@ 2018-01-10 4:55 PM (#23965 - in reply to #23957) (#23965) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-10 4:55 PM

Points table has been added in the updated Instruction Booklet (available now at http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/201801/)
@ 2018-01-11 11:25 AM (#23970 - in reply to #23957) (#23970) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-11 11:25 AM

A lookback at past winners of SM contests with Converse and/or Twisted Classics theme:
@ 2018-01-11 8:29 PM (#23974 - in reply to #23957) (#23974) Top

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akash.doulani posted @ 2018-01-11 8:29 PM

All the best to all the participants.
@ 2018-01-11 11:06 PM (#23975 - in reply to #23957) (#23975) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-11 11:06 PM

Puzzle Booklet


The PB is available now at http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/201801/

Notes for Offline solvers:
(1) Linked 6x6 and 9x9: The shading of the linked cells may be printed little lightly (feebly) on some printers. In case you face this issue, please refer to the PB pdf for actual shaded cells.

Notes for Online solvers:
(1) Linked 9x9: For some users, there may be a slight gap in the alignment of the cell boundary and the pencilmarks (orange square). You can ignore the alignment gaps and continue solving as normal.

@ 2018-01-12 12:08 AM (#23976 - in reply to #23957) (#23976) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-12 12:08 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Average Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-12 4:06 AM (#23977 - in reply to #23957) (#23977) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2018-01-12 4:06 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? XV Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Well that's not a good start for me. Most probably this would be my discard. I kept breaking puzzles. I broke both overlapping again and again. I broke bigger linked. 30 min are gone by this time with all wrong. Started fresh again. And this time i got it right fortunately. Nonetheless very nice set of puzzles. Enjoyed a lot.
Well done.
@ 2018-01-12 6:52 AM (#23978 - in reply to #23957) (#23978) Top

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paramesis posted @ 2018-01-12 6:52 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Linked Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


2018 is going to be such an exciting year for puzzle competitions, and I couldn't have asked for a better set to start. My only real issue is that the 6x6 expanded sudoku isn't really a variation, but rather two completely independent grids presented in a somewhat confusing way.

It took me 180 minutes to finish the whole set, so I've got a lot to work on when it comes to solve times. Everything fell apart when I tried to enter the answer key for the large XV with seconds to go, but I mixed up the answer strings.

Thanks for a great set!

Edited by paramesis 2018-01-12 6:55 AM
@ 2018-01-12 9:41 AM (#23981 - in reply to #23978) (#23981) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2018-01-12 9:41 AM

paramesis - 2018-01-12 6:52 AM

My only real issue is that the 6x6 expanded sudoku isn't really a variation, but rather two completely independent grids presented in a somewhat confusing way.

Since the grid was effectively 12x12, the intention was to keep the solve simple and "hide" two 6x6s, as you correctly noted. There were multiple ways of complicating the grid but we decided against it for the contest since the grid had become large.
@ 2018-01-12 9:42 AM (#23982 - in reply to #23977) (#23982) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2018-01-12 9:42 AM

swaroop2011 - 2018-01-12 4:06 AM

30 min are gone by this time with all wrong. Started fresh again.

On hindsight, you should probably have started the test 30 minutes later. Timing matters.
@ 2018-01-12 10:20 AM (#23983 - in reply to #23982) (#23983) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2018-01-12 10:20 AM

rakesh_rai - 2018-01-12 9:42 AM

swaroop2011 - 2018-01-12 4:06 AM

30 min are gone by this time with all wrong. Started fresh again.

On hindsight, you should probably have started the test 30 minutes later. Timing matters.


Haha. Will come back strong in next test (which is 3rd round ;) ) :). Will see the timing to start ;)
@ 2018-01-12 10:47 AM (#23984 - in reply to #23957) (#23984) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-12 10:47 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? XV Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-12 1:42 PM (#23985 - in reply to #23957) (#23985) Top

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lucky2712 posted @ 2018-01-12 1:42 PM

There are puzzles that comply with the consideration for it to be valid answer, but it doesn't accepts that solution. Why is that so?
@ 2018-01-12 2:06 PM (#23986 - in reply to #23957) (#23986) Top

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lucky2712 posted @ 2018-01-12 2:06 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Expanded Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Despite the fact that I enjoyed a lot, there were some puzzles that had multiple correct answers, but apparently system was willing to accept only of the possible correct solution. Please look into the matter so points can be given fairly to each participants.
@ 2018-01-12 4:26 PM (#23988 - in reply to #23957) (#23988) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-12 4:26 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Linked Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-12 4:35 PM (#23989 - in reply to #23986) (#23989) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2018-01-12 4:35 PM

lucky2712 - 2018-01-12 2:06 PM

Despite the fact that I enjoyed a lot, there were some puzzles that had multiple correct answers, but apparently system was willing to accept only of the possible correct solution. Please look into the matter so points can be given fairly to each participants.

It seems you missed the converse rule. Converse is the theme of three sudokus - XV, Consecutive and Average. In these puzzles, ALL the possible symbols (bars for consecutive, X / V for XV, and lines for Average) are marked on the grid.

Kindly check your multiple answers. I am sure there will be rule violations in these -
(a) two neighbouring numbers adding to 10 without an X, or adding to 5 without a V
(b) consecutive numbers without a symbol, and
(c) central number being the average of two neighbours without a line.
@ 2018-01-12 4:40 PM (#23990 - in reply to #23986) (#23990) Top

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akash.doulani posted @ 2018-01-12 4:40 PM

lucky2712 - 2018-01-12 2:06 PM

Despite the fact that I enjoyed a lot, there were some puzzles that had multiple correct answers, but apparently system was willing to accept only of the possible correct solution. Please look into the matter so points can be given fairly to each participants.

For your knowledge , all the puzzles that appear in any test on www.logicmastersindia.com are tested by the best of solvers to make sure that all the puzzles are unique. If you still have a doubt , you can take the photographs of your solved puzzles and mail me at akash.doulani@gmail.com
@ 2018-01-12 8:41 PM (#23991 - in reply to #23957) (#23991) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-12 8:41 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Average Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-12 10:56 PM (#23992 - in reply to #23957) (#23992) Top

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lenzo posted @ 2018-01-12 10:56 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Average Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-13 12:56 AM (#23993 - in reply to #23957) (#23993) Top

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Gyuszi13 posted @ 2018-01-13 12:56 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Average Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-13 11:18 AM (#23994 - in reply to #23957) (#23994) Top

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aditi2302 posted @ 2018-01-13 11:18 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Overlapping Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-13 2:55 PM (#23995 - in reply to #23957) (#23995) Top

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SEREnSEALS posted @ 2018-01-13 2:55 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? XV Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-13 6:10 PM (#23996 - in reply to #23957) (#23996) Top

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geronimo92 posted @ 2018-01-13 6:10 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Overlapping Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-13 6:31 PM (#23997 - in reply to #23957) (#23997) Top

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pranavmanu posted @ 2018-01-13 6:31 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? XV Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-13 7:21 PM (#23999 - in reply to #23957) (#23999) Top

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davep posted @ 2018-01-13 7:21 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Overlapping Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Enjoyed the test, nice puzzle designs!
@ 2018-01-13 7:37 PM (#24000 - in reply to #23957) (#24000) Top

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kishy72 posted @ 2018-01-13 7:37 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Linked Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


A great start to SM 2018 ! I hope the trend continues in all respects and aspects :).I had a very smooth run during the test.Not breaking any sudokus helped a lot.

I really enjoyed solving the Linked Classics(14 points) ,overlapping(12) and Expanded(7) as well.Consecutive(11) was the hardest to crack for me following by XV(9).I felt that the set is on the harder side and should be difficult to complete but there was no doubt about the fun quotient.I enjoyed a lot .Well done Akash !
@ 2018-01-13 8:17 PM (#24001 - in reply to #23957) (#24001) Top

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Llewellyn posted @ 2018-01-13 8:17 PM

XV Sudoku 1 has an error i guess... Ive managed to solve the sudoku with the adjacent "x"'s and yet the solution says wrong -

136452
452361
645123
213645
324516
561234
@ 2018-01-13 8:22 PM (#24002 - in reply to #24001) (#24002) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-13 8:22 PM

Llewellyn - 2018-01-13 8:17 PM

XV Sudoku 1 has an error i guess... Ive managed to solve the sudoku with the adjacent "x"'s and yet the solution says wrong -

136452
452361
645123
213645
324516
561234

In your solution, in column 1 first two cells are 1 and 4. They add to 5 but there is no V symbol.
@ 2018-01-13 8:28 PM (#24003 - in reply to #23957) (#24003) Top

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Llewellyn posted @ 2018-01-13 8:28 PM

Average Sudoku 1 - also showing wrong solution

125436 (4 is the average of 5+3)
364125
456312
213654
632541
541263

:( :(

@ 2018-01-13 9:51 PM (#24004 - in reply to #24003) (#24004) Top

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davep posted @ 2018-01-13 9:51 PM

In your 4th row, the last three digits are 6 5 4. 5 is the average of 4 and 6, but there is no line there. (also 5th column, reading from the top 3 2 1)

Edited by davep 2018-01-13 9:53 PM
@ 2018-01-14 12:26 AM (#24005 - in reply to #23957) (#24005) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-14 12:26 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Expanded Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-14 4:03 AM (#24006 - in reply to #23957) (#24006) Top

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udoroh posted @ 2018-01-14 4:03 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Classic Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-14 11:17 AM (#24009 - in reply to #23957) (#24009) Top

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MrLiang posted @ 2018-01-14 11:17 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Average Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


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shera90 posted @ 2018-01-14 12:16 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Linked Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-14 5:31 PM (#24011 - in reply to #23957) (#24011) Top

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margareta456 posted @ 2018-01-14 5:31 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Expanded Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-14 5:38 PM (#24012 - in reply to #23957) (#24012) Top

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sunderramanv posted @ 2018-01-14 5:38 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Overlapping Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


The layout of the Overlapping Sudoku was different from the sample sudoku. This created a little confusion. May be the intent itself was to find out which boxes are overlapping. It would have been helpful, if the similar layout (Overlapping Sudoku) was provided in the sample also
@ 2018-01-14 5:40 PM (#24013 - in reply to #23957) (#24013) Top

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JonaS2010 posted @ 2018-01-14 5:40 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? XV Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-14 5:40 PM (#24014 - in reply to #23957) (#24014) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-14 5:40 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Overlapping Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-14 6:22 PM (#24015 - in reply to #24012) (#24015) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2018-01-14 6:22 PM

sunderramanv - 2018-01-14 5:38 PM

The layout of the Overlapping Sudoku was different from the sample sudoku. This created a little confusion. May be the intent itself was to find out which boxes are overlapping. It would have been helpful, if the similar layout (Overlapping Sudoku) was provided in the sample also

Good point. The IB puzzle layout was intentionally kept different from the PB puzzle in this case. The puzzle itself was very easy, though. I don't think it would have affected much solving-wise, except for the surprise in the visual part of layout.
@ 2018-01-14 6:33 PM (#24016 - in reply to #23957) (#24016) Top

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tamz29 posted @ 2018-01-14 6:33 PM

Good puzzles, but really not a huge fan of 6x6 puzzles that are actually non-trivial.
I feel the best strategy is to trial-and-error through them since they are hardly worth any points rather than logically working them out (which takes longer).
When I look at the 6x6 XV or the 6x6 Consecutive, I am not convinced that these are great introductions for solvers before they tackle the larger 9x9.
I think the reason they are worth a lot less is because they are more prone to lucky guessers.

I suggest either: A/ having it worth more, since the steps are non-straightforward or
B/ have the 6x6 actually be simpler since they are worth way less points.
@ 2018-01-14 6:36 PM (#24017 - in reply to #23957) (#24017) Top

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Kwaka posted @ 2018-01-14 6:36 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Linked Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-14 10:55 PM (#24018 - in reply to #24016) (#24018) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2018-01-14 10:55 PM

tamz29 - 2018-01-14 6:33 PM

Good puzzles, but really not a huge fan of 6x6 puzzles that are actually non-trivial.
I feel the best strategy is to trial-and-error through them since they are hardly worth any points rather than logically working them out (which takes longer).
When I look at the 6x6 XV or the 6x6 Consecutive, I am not convinced that these are great introductions for solvers before they tackle the larger 9x9.
I think the reason they are worth a lot less is because they are more prone to lucky guessers.

I suggest either: A/ having it worth more, since the steps are non-straightforward or
B/ have the 6x6 actually be simpler since they are worth way less points.


This is an interesting point to discuss.

So first of all, at least for this contest, the test solvers have solved the 6x6s and 9x9s logically. So guesswork did not factor into the timings, and the points were calculated and assigned based on the timings and not any external factors. So in that sense, I'd say at least in theory that they weren't intentionally undervalued or given a lower value 'because' of a quicker solving path via guesswork. So I don't think A can be done here since it would just be random subjective overvaluing.

But about them not being great introductions, I would love to discuss further because I see it going both ways. I think that if there is an introduction, an intermediate and then a final level, then what you say is definitely the way to go because then we can have the intermediate preparing solvers to tackle the regular difficulties while the introduction can be easy to be most approachable. But since we just have a 6x6 directly leading into a 9x9, a straightforward 6x6 leading into a difficult 9x9 doesn't do much in preparing you for it. So personally I think it is fine to have some easy ones and some difficult ones among the 6x6 variants within the format used here, to give options both of approachable variants and of variants where, if you attempt the 6x6 logically, you'll be better equipped to deal with higher levels and difficulties.
@ 2018-01-14 11:13 PM (#24019 - in reply to #23957) (#24019) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-14 11:13 PM

Contest Extension


Based on specific requests from players, the contest end time is extended by twelve hours, and will now end at 11:59 AM IST on Tuesday (16th Jan). Please check the contest page for the exact time as per your time zone. You can start the test anytime till 11:59 AM on the 16th.

@ 2018-01-15 5:52 AM (#24020 - in reply to #23957) (#24020) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-15 5:52 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Linked Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


@ 2018-01-15 11:15 AM (#24021 - in reply to #23957) (#24021) Top

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KarnKingKong posted @ 2018-01-15 11:15 AM

can someone please post an example of linked sudoku?how to solve?
and its solution too..
@ 2018-01-15 11:15 AM (#24022 - in reply to #23957) (#24022) Top

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rvarun posted @ 2018-01-15 11:15 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Overlapping Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-15 11:18 AM (#24023 - in reply to #24021) (#24023) Top

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rvarun posted @ 2018-01-15 11:18 AM

KarnKingKong - 2018-01-15 11:15 AM

can someone please post an example of linked sudoku?how to solve?
and its solution too..


Hi. The Instruction Booklet will have a Linked Sudoku example with its solution. The corresponding shaded cells in both sudokus will contain the same digits. So, if you get any digit in a shaded cell in one of the sudoku, then you can directly fill up the same digit in the other sudoku in the corresponding shaded cell.
@ 2018-01-15 11:41 AM (#24024 - in reply to #23957) (#24024) Top

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Yuhei Kusui posted @ 2018-01-15 11:41 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? XV Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-15 1:13 PM (#24025 - in reply to #23957) (#24025) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-15 1:13 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-15 2:33 PM (#24026 - in reply to #23957) (#24026) Top

Janakisanthanam



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Janakisanthanam posted @ 2018-01-15 2:33 PM

Where to look for password,since it is protected
@ 2018-01-15 2:39 PM (#24027 - in reply to #24026) (#24027) Top

Administrator



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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-15 2:39 PM

Janakisanthanam - 2018-01-15 2:33 PM

Where to look for password,since it is protected

Once you click on the "Start Converse and Twisted Classics" button, you will see the password on the screen and the countdown timer will start.
@ 2018-01-15 7:15 PM (#24030 - in reply to #23957) (#24030) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-15 7:15 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Overlapping Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


@ 2018-01-15 11:23 PM (#24035 - in reply to #23957) (#24035) Top

utkaarsh



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utkaarsh posted @ 2018-01-15 11:23 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Consecutive Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-15 11:41 PM (#24036 - in reply to #23957) (#24036) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-15 11:41 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Expanded Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-16 3:58 AM (#24037 - in reply to #23957) (#24037) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-16 3:58 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Expanded Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-16 10:37 AM (#24038 - in reply to #23957) (#24038) Top

aashay



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aashay posted @ 2018-01-16 10:37 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? XV Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-16 11:06 AM (#24039 - in reply to #23957) (#24039) Top

devarajand



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devarajand posted @ 2018-01-16 11:06 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Linked Sudoku


@ 2018-01-16 12:40 PM (#24041 - in reply to #23957) (#24041) Top

vopani



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vopani posted @ 2018-01-16 12:40 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Consecutive Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-16 1:55 PM (#24042 - in reply to #24041) (#24042) Top

Administrator



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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-16 1:55 PM

Congratulations to Kota Morinishi (the current World Sudoku Champion), Jan Zverina, Seung Jae Kwak and Jan Mrozowski for taking the top four places. They were separated by less than 2 minutes overall.

Amongst Indian participants, Congratulations to Kishore Kumar, Rohan Rao and Shaheer Rahman for finishing the complete set within 90 minutes and taking the top 3 places.

Of the 293 participants, 128 were from India, 25 from Japan and 15 from USA. Denis Aurox (France) was the first to start the test while Ankur Murarka (India) was the last person to start the test. 31 participants completed the set within the allotted time. The median score of the test was 43.5.

Thanks Akash for the puzzles!

Participants may share feedback on the results page and rate the puzzles on the contest page.
@ 2018-01-16 4:21 PM (#24043 - in reply to #23957) (#24043) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-16 4:21 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Linked Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-16 5:27 PM (#24044 - in reply to #23957) (#24044) Top

RameshLMI



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RameshLMI posted @ 2018-01-16 5:27 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Linked Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-16 9:07 PM (#24045 - in reply to #23957) (#24045) Top

fal_94



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fal_94 posted @ 2018-01-16 9:07 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Consecutive Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


@ 2018-01-17 4:41 AM (#24046 - in reply to #23957) (#24046) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-17 4:41 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Average Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-17 10:04 AM (#24047 - in reply to #23957) (#24047) Top

vijaya_rajan



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vijaya_rajan posted @ 2018-01-17 10:04 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Expanded Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-17 4:19 PM (#24048 - in reply to #23957) (#24048) Top

akash.doulani



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akash.doulani posted @ 2018-01-17 4:19 PM

Congratulations to Kota Morinishi , Jan Zverina and Seung Jae Kwak for taking the top 3 spots and also to Kishore Kumar, Rohan Rao and Shaheer Rahman for taking the top 3 spots among the Indians. I really enjoyed authoring this round. My personal favourites were Linked Classics (9x9) , XV (9x9) and Consecutive (9x9). Thanks to logicmastersindia for giving me this opportunity. I hope you all liked the sudokus . Its actually been a long time since I have solved sudokus. With all my authoring assignments over , I can get back to solving :)
@ 2018-01-17 7:18 PM (#24050 - in reply to #23957) (#24050) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-17 7:18 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Linked Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-17 11:09 PM (#24052 - in reply to #23957) (#24052) Top

shambhu



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shambhu posted @ 2018-01-17 11:09 PM

How to approach the XV(6x6) puzzle?
@ 2018-01-18 11:23 AM (#24053 - in reply to #24052) (#24053) Top

rakesh_rai




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rakesh_rai posted @ 2018-01-18 11:23 AM

shambhu - 2018-01-17 11:09 PM

How to approach the XV(6x6) puzzle?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xk6iAnoFPsuaItTqnS1WTuLBT-Vgngqi/vi...

Let me know if this helps.
@ 2018-01-20 9:41 AM (#24066 - in reply to #24053) (#24066) Top

shambhu



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shambhu posted @ 2018-01-20 9:41 AM

Thanks a lot!!
@ 2018-01-20 11:42 PM (#24081 - in reply to #23957) (#24081) Top

detuned



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detuned posted @ 2018-01-20 11:42 PM

Ok - I have no idea what you have done to the PDFs, but this is printing completely blank - no misprints, just blank pieces of paper feeding out of my printer. I'm using a mac and preview to print the PDF files on to a Brother HL-L2340DW printer.

I've also just tried to print 2017 SM files. They print perfectly.
@ 2018-01-20 11:52 PM (#24082 - in reply to #23957) (#24082) Top

detuned



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detuned posted @ 2018-01-20 11:52 PM

A little more info. The 2017 files seem to have been produced using "FREE PDFill PDF and".

This 2018 file has been produced using "PoDoFo - http://podofo.sf.net". Rather unhelpfully their bug tracker doesn't seem to exist.