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Logic Masters India announces Classics & Regions - first episode of Puzzle Ramayan 2016-17
Dates : 27 th - 30 th January
Instruction Booklet & Submission : Link
Author : Robert Vollmert
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xiao01wei
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Country : China | It seems that the final answer of Fence in the IB is wrong? I think "113,212" is true. |
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rob
Posts: 170
Country : Germany | rob posted @ 2017-01-25 12:27 AM xiao01wei - 2017-01-23 5:28 PM
It seems that the final answer of Fence in the IB is wrong? I think "113,212" is true.
Looks like the booklet has been corrected. |
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akash.doulani
Posts: 157
Country : India | I m not being able to understand the answer key for fence |
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tnv
Posts: 22
Country : India | tnv posted @ 2017-01-26 12:51 PM I am not able to solve the slant puzzle. Any tips would be welcome
--Venkatesh |
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rob
Posts: 170
Country : Germany | rob posted @ 2017-01-26 2:15 PM |
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tnv
Posts: 22
Country : India | tnv posted @ 2017-01-26 3:12 PM |
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Administrator
Country : India | Note about answer key of Shikaku
Please note that the letters inside arrow marks for Shikaku do not follow sequence on page 10
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | Mistake in Puzzle Booklet
One of the puzzles (Star Battle Instructionless - 2) has something missing in it making it wrong. We request participants to wait for an announcement that it is fixed before starting the contest.
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | Update - Puzzle Booklet fixed
The Puzzle booklet is fixed and re-uploaded, there are no more problems. For the ones who attempted before the fix took place, we are discussing a way to sort it out.
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WA1729
Posts: 65
Country : United States | WA1729 posted @ 2017-01-27 5:14 AM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Fence | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
Very nice! Favorites: Fence 2 Star Battle 3 Star Battle Instructionless 1 Shikaku 2 Thank you! |
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WA1729
Posts: 65
Country : United States | WA1729 posted @ 2017-01-27 5:21 AM Note to self - check the discussion thread before starting the test! I made it through the old version by solving the puzzle assuming that one region had to contain four stars. Nice test; thank you Robert Vollmert and Prasanna! |
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mstang
Posts: 74
Country : United States | mstang posted @ 2017-01-27 8:30 AM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Spiral Galaxies | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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vopani
Posts: 739
Country : India | vopani posted @ 2017-01-27 12:31 PM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many medium difficult puzzles | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Star Battle | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
Nice set. Loved both the instructionless puzzles.
I wasted time solving the Star Battle instructionless example :-| (realized only towards the end that it is not the actual puzzle )
Very stupid of me, but the grid is so big! (compared to the Shikaku instructionless )
Thanks Rob!
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xiao01wei
Posts: 6
Country : China | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Fillomino | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2017-01-27 2:40 PM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Spiral Galaxies | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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chaotic_iak
Posts: 241
Country : Indonesia | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many easy puzzles | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Shikaku | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
Very nice puzzles. Of course, easy because it's Puzzle Ramayan, but still nice. The Shikaku variant is a good twist, because I expected Knapp-Daeben (off by one ) Shikaku. Answer keys were not very perfect (see: Shikaku having inverted letters; also, answer key for one puzzle, Spiral Galaxies I think, asked for rows C/D/E but there were E/F/G in the puzzle ). But not a very big deal. |
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greenhorn
Posts: 164
Country : Slovakia | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Fillomino | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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auroux
Posts: 145
Country : France | auroux posted @ 2017-01-27 10:04 PM ARGH! I downloaded the instruction booklet and looked at the forum after the test started but before the correction was posted... and lost 5 minutes redoing that star battle puzzle over and over again before counting and realizing it had to be wrong. :( Probably would have finished otherwise... |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2017-01-28 3:34 AM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Fillomino | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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swaroop2011
Posts: 668
Country : India | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Spiral Galaxies | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
Had so many break in's. Wasted time in fixing some of them. Could have completed the test. Short of 3 min. Fantastic set of puzzles with nice logic. Thanks LMI and Robert for wonderful test. |
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harmeet
Posts: 87
Country : India | harmeet posted @ 2017-01-28 11:56 AM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Shikaku | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2017-01-28 6:42 PM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many easy puzzles | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Shikaku | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Kithyane
Posts: 49
Country : France | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Shikaku | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Eugene
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Country : Russia | Eugene posted @ 2017-01-29 2:18 AM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Fence | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Panni
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Country : Hungary | Panni posted @ 2017-01-29 4:49 AM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Star Battle | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | I have a different complaint | |
Somehow some grids got a bit deformed, had to correct by hand before starting to solve. A bit annoying and 1-2 min lost spent with checking from the display. |
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ghirsch
Posts: 102
Country : United States | ghirsch posted @ 2017-01-29 12:14 PM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Shikaku | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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tiphan
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Country : France | tiphan posted @ 2017-01-29 2:17 PM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Spiral Galaxies | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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tamz29
Posts: 225
Country : Thailand | tamz29 posted @ 2017-01-29 2:38 PM Nice puzzles, Shikaku 3 was very funny! Fillomino 3 also stood out.
I don't know how other solvers find the Shikaku instructionless. It's an interesting type but it seems a bit off-putting,
since it is not purely unique in the sense that some clue numbers could be shifted left or right and will still work (producing the same unique solution).
Sadly both of my penalties were from messy notes and I wasted precious minutes finding where I went wrong when I had correctly solved the puzzles.
Thanks for the fun set Rob!
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TiiT
Posts: 139
Country : Estonia | TiiT posted @ 2017-01-29 4:26 PM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Star Battle | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Swagatam
Posts: 45
Country : India | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2017-01-29 6:16 PM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Star Battle | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2017-01-29 7:06 PM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Slant | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2017-01-29 7:39 PM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
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petpar55
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Country : Macedonia Firom | Passwort |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2017-01-29 11:39 PM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many easy puzzles | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Star Battle | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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detuned
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Country : United Kingdom | detuned posted @ 2017-01-30 2:37 AM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Shikaku | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Answer keys were horrible | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Joo M.Y
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Country : South Korea | Joo M.Y posted @ 2017-01-30 2:13 PM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Spiral Galaxies | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2017-01-30 2:14 PM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Shikaku | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | I have a different complaint | |
Star Battle grid did not seem to agree with my printer and borders extended half a block longer than they should have (including connecting where they shouldn't ), requiring me to reference the PDF for solving. |
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RameshLMI
Posts: 51
Country : India | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many medium difficult puzzles | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Star Battle | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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RameshLMI
Posts: 51
Country : India | Lovely set of Puzzles. Enjoyed Star battle instructionless-1. Could have done better. |
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kiwijam
Posts: 187
Country : New Zealand | kiwijam posted @ 2017-01-31 2:22 AM Excellent puzzles, thanks a lot to Rob and LMI for a fun contest. |
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PuzzleScot
Posts: 31
Country : United Kingdom | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Star Battle | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Grizix
Posts: 30
Country : France | Grizix posted @ 2017-01-31 7:16 AM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Star Battle | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Answer keys could have been better | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2017-02-02 3:01 PM What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many easy puzzles | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Slant | | What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? | Mostly perfect answer keys | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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rob
Posts: 170
Country : Germany | rob posted @ 2017-02-05 12:13 AM I hope scoring issues have been addressed to everyone's satisfaction by now, else please contact Prasanna or Deb. Time for some closing remarks.
First off, thanks to the LMI team for giving me the opportunity to provide the puzzles for this contest. It's always a pleasure to solve here, and it's great to be able to give back in this way. I would have preferred the contest to run perfectly smoothly, but in the end I hope the experience didn't suffer too much from the rough start and some suboptimal answer keys.
Then, thanks to all participants, I hope everyone had a bit of fun. It's good to see more than 200 players solving my puzzles! Congratulations to Rohan, Ashish and Swaroop for topping the Indian leaderboard, and Ken, Bram and Hideaki for making the overall podium. Ken dominant as expected, finishing in under 34 minutes with a lead of over 7 minutes over second place, and 15 minutes over the rest of the pack starting with place 3. 47 players solved all puzzles within the 90 minutes, 222 have a non-zero score.
From an author's perspective, this was a good exercise in making not-too-hard puzzles for standard puzzle types. The more I've constructed, the more I find making interesting and pretty easy puzzles to be harder than making them tricky. I think the difficulty worked out fine, though I'll admit that after going through the Fillominos with a friend recently, maybe an easier one would have been fitting. I'm a bit surprised Shikaku turned out to be so popular; apart from the variant, I felt that those were some of the weaker puzzles.
Now I'm looking forward to the next contest, and the remainder of Puzzle Ramayan 2017. If there are any questions I'm happy to answer, particularly if the solving path for some puzzle is unclear. |
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rob
Posts: 170
Country : Germany | rob posted @ 2017-02-07 4:36 AM Also, thanks to Aga, Sebastian and Swantje for test-solving. |