Shading - 23rd - 26th Jan 2016 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier
@ 2016-01-15 4:58 AM (#20653) (#20653) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2016-01-15 4:58 AM





Link for rules and other details about Puzzle Ramayan : http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/2015-16PR.asp
Instructions for Shading - Coming soon

@ 2016-01-17 4:30 AM (#20672 - in reply to #20653) (#20672) Top

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Guest posted @ 2016-01-17 4:30 AM

You're doing this the same weekend as the Indian GP round?
@ 2016-01-17 5:09 AM (#20673 - in reply to #20672) (#20673) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2016-01-17 5:09 AM

Guest - 2016-01-17 4:30 AM

You're doing this the same weekend as the Indian GP round?
I think it is the other way around. WPF is doing the GP round in the same weekend as this. We published the schedule 6 months in advance.

ETA : Considering the overlap (and that 26th is a national holiday), we will have this running on 26th as well.
@ 2016-01-17 4:54 PM (#20680 - in reply to #20673) (#20680) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2016-01-17 4:54 PM


Logic Masters India announces Shading - episode 6 of Puzzle Ramayan 2015-16

Dates : 23rd - 26th January

Instruction Booklet & Submission : Link

Points table will be published soon.

@ 2016-01-18 5:54 PM (#20697 - in reply to #20653) (#20697) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2016-01-18 5:54 PM

Some practice links -
Crazy Pavement - http://www.janko.at/Raetsel/Tairupeinto/index.htm (Various sources, compiled)
Heyawacky - See the only-rectangles version here - http://www.nikoli.com/en/puzzles/heyawake/ For the irregular version which will appear on the contest, here are some links below -
https://mellowmelon.wordpress.com/category/puzzle-types/heyawacky/
https://prasannaseshadri.wordpress.com/category/heyawacky/ (avoid the variants that get mixed up in the category)

Also, note - this is a great round to participate in even if you do not have a printer. It is pretty easy to do shading puzzles on your normal paint tools on the computer using the fill with colour function. I should have noted as much for the snake round too (in fact the walk-through images after the Snake round http://logicmastersindia.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1191&... were all done using paint tools) but that had Summed Snake as an exception, whereas here they're all paint-friendly.

For my first 1 or 2 years of solving on LMI I didn't have a printer and mostly preferred shading puzzles because I solved everything on Paint. In the long run it is advisable to switch to paper by getting a printer because the National/International Championships tend to be offline, but its useful to do this if you're just participating for fun or want to stay in touch with these contests without a printer.
@ 2016-01-20 7:06 AM (#20709 - in reply to #20653) (#20709) Top

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brecher92 posted @ 2016-01-20 7:06 AM

PuzzlePicnic has some good Heyawackys too (all listed as Heyawake, but with Heyawacky rules)

Edited by brecher92 2016-01-20 7:06 AM
@ 2016-01-20 8:32 AM (#20710 - in reply to #20653) (#20710) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2016-01-20 8:32 AM

Thanks for sharing links Prasanna and Brecher.
Here are few more practice links:

Lakes:
https://maybepuzzles.wordpress.com/2015/02/07/puzzle-57-lakes/
There are 2 more as separate links in the above link itself.
PNB: http://www.puzzle-nonograms.com/

Windows: http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/?test=M201310P2

http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/?test=M201309P2 (This link is not a separate puzzle, but a marathon puzzle with all types of this round part of it. Might be a good practice) .
@ 2016-01-21 12:40 AM (#20714 - in reply to #20653) (#20714) Top

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forcolin posted @ 2016-01-21 12:40 AM

just to clarify. A heyawacky is a heyawake with irregular (not rectangular) shapes. All other rules are the same. Correct?
ALso. A lakes is a Nurikabe without the requirement of the black cells to be all connected. Correct?

Edited by forcolin 2016-01-21 12:42 AM
@ 2016-01-21 12:45 AM (#20715 - in reply to #20714) (#20715) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2016-01-21 12:45 AM

forcolin - 2016-01-21 12:40 AM

just to clarify. A heyawacky is a heyawake with irregular (not rectangular) shapes. All other rules are the same. Correct?
ALso. A lakes is a Nurikabe without the requirement of the black cells to be all connected. Correct?


Yes you are correct regarding heyawacky.
Regarding Lakes, Its Nurikabe without connectivity rule and without 2x2 rule.
@ 2016-01-22 3:45 PM (#20731 - in reply to #20715) (#20731) Top

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kishy72 posted @ 2016-01-22 3:45 PM

Any beginner level tips and strategies for Crazy pavement ? I attempted a couple of easy puzzles from Janko which gave me the impression that there are not many tricks in the puzzle.So,I jumped to a bigger sized puzzle where I was clearly clueless .The grid was 12X12 and the start was really difficult with bigger valued clues....
@ 2016-01-22 7:06 PM (#20734 - in reply to #20653) (#20734) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2016-01-22 7:06 PM

Can you post a link to this specific puzzle?
@ 2016-01-22 7:08 PM (#20735 - in reply to #20714) (#20735) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2016-01-22 7:08 PM

forcolin - 2016-01-21 12:40 AM

just to clarify. A heyawacky is a heyawake with irregular (not rectangular) shapes. All other rules are the same. Correct?
ALso. A lakes is a Nurikabe without the requirement of the black cells to be all connected. Correct?



The only rule to be careful about with Heyawacky is that Heyawake is generally worded as "rooms" for the spanning rule and Heyawacky as "borders". This is mainly because the same irregular region can wrap around two borders. For example a U pentomino is allowed to have both its "ends" unshaded and the cell in between them unshaded by Nikoli Heyawake rules which use "rooms", but not allowed by Heyawacky rules using "borders".
@ 2016-01-22 7:54 PM (#20736 - in reply to #20653) (#20736) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2016-01-22 7:54 PM

Points Table

Instruction Booklet is re-uploaded with points table. Here it is for your quick reference.



@ 2016-01-22 8:16 PM (#20737 - in reply to #20731) (#20737) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2016-01-22 8:16 PM

kishy72 - 2016-01-22 3:45 PM

Any beginner level tips and strategies for Crazy pavement ? I attempted a couple of easy puzzles from Janko which gave me the impression that there are not many tricks in the puzzle.So,I jumped to a bigger sized puzzle where I was clearly clueless .The grid was 12X12 and the start was really difficult with bigger valued clues....


Please share the puzzles, so that we can help you.

In general one tip I would give is doing some math for each row/column which has clue. For e.g. If you consider the IB example: For 1st row, the combinations of shading available is 1+2+4, and the clue is "5". So you clearly know it has to be 1+4. So you can keep doing like that. This will make your things easy.
Secondly, sometimes try looking for combined clues together for multiple rows/columns.
@ 2016-01-22 8:18 PM (#20738 - in reply to #20653) (#20738) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2016-01-22 8:18 PM

All the best everyone. :)
@ 2016-01-23 3:03 AM (#20743 - in reply to #20653) (#20743) Top

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drsteve posted @ 2016-01-23 3:03 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Windows
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


A fun test - on the one hand, I found it a bit easy, on the other, it was nice to finish one of these for once.
@ 2016-01-23 5:03 AM (#20745 - in reply to #20653) (#20745) Top

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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Heyawacky
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-01-23 8:22 AM (#20746 - in reply to #20653) (#20746) Top

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Hotel posted @ 2016-01-23 8:22 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Heyawacky
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Nice puzzles. Especially I enjoyed Heyawacky 4.
@ 2016-01-23 11:25 AM (#20747 - in reply to #20653) (#20747) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2016-01-23 11:25 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Lakes
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-01-23 1:21 PM (#20748 - in reply to #20653) (#20748) Top

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vopani posted @ 2016-01-23 1:21 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Heyawacky
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I felt this was the most balanced PR round so far.

Excellent puzzles and a good hour spent in solving them.
Thanks Swaroop!
@ 2016-01-23 2:49 PM (#20749 - in reply to #20653) (#20749) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2016-01-23 2:49 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Lakes
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


A fun set overall, if more on the easier side. Apparently Windows is a type that can be broken by intuition; I did Windows 4 in 2m25, the largest point/time ratio for this test.

I'm not very certain why Paint by Numbers is chosen here, since it's not a very deep type on its own; I don't think there's too many variations of tricks that can be used there. On the other hand, it's perhaps the type that is most well-known to people not active in competitive puzzling, so perhaps that's a reason on its own. It's also interesting that there's a lack of "common" shading types such as Nurikabe, but since the basic things of shading puzzles are covered ("black cells cannot be adjacent" and "white cells form contiguous region" are by Heyawacky; "black cells are connected" and "no 2x2 black cells" are by Windows; even Nurikabe's own island rule exists as Lakes), I guess the variations do represent the theme well.
@ 2016-01-23 2:58 PM (#20750 - in reply to #20653) (#20750) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2016-01-23 2:58 PM

The reason for including Paint By Numbers is exactly what you said, it is familiar and easy to understand.
@ 2016-01-23 4:29 PM (#20751 - in reply to #20653) (#20751) Top

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Puzlifouk posted @ 2016-01-23 4:29 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Crazy Pavement
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-01-23 5:08 PM (#20752 - in reply to #20653) (#20752) Top

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AndreyBogdanov posted @ 2016-01-23 5:08 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Lakes
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-01-23 9:36 PM (#20755 - in reply to #20653) (#20755) Top

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kishy72 posted @ 2016-01-23 9:36 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Heyawacky
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Just one word to describe the set.

Splendid !!

This becomes my favourite PR round so far and I am confident that it will remain that way until the end.Everything was perfect about the test.Construction/Points distribution/Difficulty/Selection of puzzle genres etc.,.My favourites of the test were Heyawacky (10 Points)and Windows(11 points).

Tremendous job Swaroop.Just for designing this test,you deserve a place in the Puzzle Team this year :-p.Simply stunning work behind the scenes.I greatly enjoyed the set.Thanks a lot for the test.

You made me experience the concept of 'fun' in a puzzle test which occurs very rarely.So you made me give an all "green" feedback in a puzzle test :)which is another of those rare things that I thought will never happen .Perfect work!!Keep it up!
@ 2016-01-23 9:44 PM (#20756 - in reply to #20653) (#20756) Top

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Helen posted @ 2016-01-23 9:44 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Crazy Pavement
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


A very nice puzzle set and I thought the difficulty level was nicely targeted for beginners. Thanks to the creators :)

Edited by Helen 2016-01-23 9:46 PM
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ghirsch posted @ 2016-01-23 10:36 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Crazy Pavement
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Once again, this set was a lot of fun, though maybe a little too easy. There was a good amount of variety in the different puzzle types, and I liked seeing some unfamiliar types. Heyawacky 4 was very nice, and I also really liked both instructionless puzzles (though I made the stupid mistake of solving the instructionless Heyawacky example, thinking it was one of the puzzles for points).
@ 2016-01-23 10:36 PM (#20760 - in reply to #20743) (#20760) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2016-01-23 10:36 PM

drsteve - 2016-01-23 3:03 AM

A fun test - on the one hand, I found it a bit easy, on the other, it was nice to finish one of these for once.


I am glad you enjoyed. Thanks for the feedback. Yes indeed this test was targeted towards easy side.
@ 2016-01-23 10:37 PM (#20761 - in reply to #20746) (#20761) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2016-01-23 10:37 PM

Hotel - 2016-01-23 8:22 AM

Nice puzzles. Especially I enjoyed Heyawacky 4.


I am glad you enjoyed. Thanks for the feedback.
@ 2016-01-23 10:38 PM (#20762 - in reply to #20748) (#20762) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2016-01-23 10:38 PM

Rohan Rao - 2016-01-23 1:21 PM

I felt this was the most balanced PR round so far.

Excellent puzzles and a good hour spent in solving them.
Thanks Swaroop!


Thanks for your feedback. I am glad you enjoyed the test. You did well.
@ 2016-01-23 10:41 PM (#20763 - in reply to #20749) (#20763) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2016-01-23 10:41 PM

chaotic_iak - 2016-01-23 2:49 PM

A fun set overall, if more on the easier side. Apparently Windows is a type that can be broken by intuition; I did Windows 4 in 2m25, the largest point/time ratio for this test.

I'm not very certain why Paint by Numbers is chosen here, since it's not a very deep type on its own; I don't think there's too many variations of tricks that can be used there. On the other hand, it's perhaps the type that is most well-known to people not active in competitive puzzling, so perhaps that's a reason on its own. It's also interesting that there's a lack of "common" shading types such as Nurikabe, but since the basic things of shading puzzles are covered ("black cells cannot be adjacent" and "white cells form contiguous region" are by Heyawacky; "black cells are connected" and "no 2x2 black cells" are by Windows; even Nurikabe's own island rule exists as Lakes), I guess the variations do represent the theme well.


Thanks for your feedback. Yes this round was targeted towards easy side. Although the details regarding thinking behind selection of puzzles and difficulty will be posted once the test is over.
But just to complete the reasoning for Paint by Numbers, it's as what you said. It's easy to do, fun and suitable for beginners.
I am glad you enjoyed the test.
@ 2016-01-23 10:46 PM (#20764 - in reply to #20755) (#20764) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2016-01-23 10:46 PM

kishy72 - 2016-01-23 9:36 PM

Just one word to describe the set.

Splendid !!

This becomes my favourite PR round so far and I am confident that it will remain that way until the end.Everything was perfect about the test.Construction/Points distribution/Difficulty/Selection of puzzle genres etc.,.My favourites of the test were Heyawacky (10 Points)and Windows(11 points).

Tremendous job Swaroop.Just for designing this test,you deserve a place in the Puzzle Team this year :-p.Simply stunning work behind the scenes.I greatly enjoyed the set.Thanks a lot for the test.

You made me experience the concept of 'fun' in a puzzle test which occurs very rarely.So you made me give an all "green" feedback in a puzzle test :)which is another of those rare things that I thought will never happen .Perfect work!!Keep it up!


Thank you for your kind words. I am happy that you really enjoyed the test and had fun.
You did very well in the test. Although frankly, I expected you could have completed the test just within time. But nevertheless nice performance.
@ 2016-01-23 11:14 PM (#20765 - in reply to #20756) (#20765) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2016-01-23 11:14 PM

Helen - 2016-01-23 9:44 PM

A very nice puzzle set and I thought the difficulty level was nicely targeted for beginners. Thanks to the creators :)


Thank you for your feedback. Yes indeed it was targeted for beginners. I expect many of them to finish this test.
@ 2016-01-23 11:16 PM (#20766 - in reply to #20759) (#20766) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2016-01-23 11:16 PM

ghirsch - 2016-01-23 10:36 PM

Once again, this set was a lot of fun, though maybe a little too easy. There was a good amount of variety in the different puzzle types, and I liked seeing some unfamiliar types. Heyawacky 4 was very nice, and I also really liked both instructionless puzzles (though I made the stupid mistake of solving the instructionless Heyawacky example, thinking it was one of the puzzles for points).


Thank you for your feedback. I am happy you enjoyed the test.
Yes that happens sometimes, also the reason could be that you saw 2 examples for Heyawacky as against 1 example of Crazy pavement instruction less.
@ 2016-01-24 12:17 AM (#20769 - in reply to #20653) (#20769) Top

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Eykir posted @ 2016-01-24 12:17 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Windows
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-01-24 1:48 AM (#20770 - in reply to #20653) (#20770) Top

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kousek-nebe posted @ 2016-01-24 1:48 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Crazy Pavement
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-01-24 3:47 AM (#20771 - in reply to #20653) (#20771) Top

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Nola posted @ 2016-01-24 3:47 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Crazy Pavement
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-01-24 3:53 AM (#20772 - in reply to #20653) (#20772) Top

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puzzlemad posted @ 2016-01-24 3:53 AM

Thank you very much. A few careless mistakes from myself wasted my time, so I didn't get chance to go back to the last Heyawacky to finish it (that is a type that I'm normally rubbish at). Thoroughly enjoyed the test.
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TiiT posted @ 2016-01-24 6:40 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Windows
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-01-24 9:48 PM (#20776 - in reply to #20653) (#20776) Top

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MrLiang posted @ 2016-01-24 9:48 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Crazy Pavement
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-01-25 2:12 AM (#20778 - in reply to #20653) (#20778) Top

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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Windows
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-01-25 11:00 AM (#20779 - in reply to #20653) (#20779) Top

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PuzzleScott posted @ 2016-01-25 11:00 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Crazy Pavement
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I especially liked the new instructionless variants
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Kithyane posted @ 2016-01-25 11:35 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Crazy Pavement
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I loved this round, many puzzles had really nice solving methods :)
I nearly not finished it because I had to restart at least 3 puzzles after an error on my side, but I had a lot of fun anyway :)

Specifically loved the crazy pavement, I like the reasonings in this type.

Thank you !
@ 2016-01-25 5:07 PM (#20793 - in reply to #20653) (#20793) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2016-01-25 5:07 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Crazy Pavement
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-01-25 7:16 PM (#20794 - in reply to #20653) (#20794) Top

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peluri posted @ 2016-01-25 7:16 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Lakes
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-01-25 11:05 PM (#20797 - in reply to #20653) (#20797) Top

Bram28



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Bram28 posted @ 2016-01-25 11:05 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Heyawacky
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Got through everything fine ... except the Windows!! That was not a type I had done before, and I was completely lost, staring at them for about 30 minutes, with only the first one solved. Can someone please post some hints or tricks for Windows, or maybe step through one? I would really appreciate that!
@ 2016-01-26 12:11 AM (#20798 - in reply to #20653) (#20798) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2016-01-26 12:11 AM

I'll try to post something about Windows tomorrow, unless Swaroop is interested in doing so.
@ 2016-01-26 3:13 AM (#20800 - in reply to #20797) (#20800) Top

swaroop2011




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swaroop2011 posted @ 2016-01-26 3:13 AM

Bram28 - 2016-01-25 11:05 PM

Got through everything fine ... except the Windows!! That was not a type I had done before, and I was completely lost, staring at them for about 30 minutes, with only the first one solved. Can someone please post some hints or tricks for Windows, or maybe step through one? I would really appreciate that!


Hi, I am not sharing the steps for the puzzles in the contest right now, because i believe if you know the tricks, then you can solve it on your own. These are all easy puzzles.
So I have shared the common tricks that one can use to solve Windows Puzzles. I have posted a pdf on my blog (http://swaroopg92.blogspot.com/2016/01/puzzle-ramayan-2015-16-shading-round.html) or you can directly look at pdf with this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-1TteOwGbxHcHNlWkR0UjFUMEU/view?us...

Give a try using these steps, and if you still facing issues, then comment here, will post the steps for solving the contest puzzles.
@ 2016-01-26 3:51 AM (#20801 - in reply to #20653) (#20801) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2016-01-26 3:51 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Windows
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-01-26 4:46 AM (#20802 - in reply to #20653) (#20802) Top

furudo.erika



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furudo.erika posted @ 2016-01-26 4:46 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Heyawacky
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Thumbs up for the instructionless variants and some good rarer puzzle types with nicely flowing solving. Seems I find windows puzzles relaxing to solve. Nice to have a set of puzzles I can finish in the time too.
@ 2016-01-26 5:13 AM (#20803 - in reply to #20800) (#20803) Top

Bram28



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Bram28 posted @ 2016-01-26 5:13 AM

swaroop2011 - 2016-01-25 5:13 PM

Bram28 - 2016-01-25 11:05 PM

Got through everything fine ... except the Windows!! That was not a type I had done before, and I was completely lost, staring at them for about 30 minutes, with only the first one solved. Can someone please post some hints or tricks for Windows, or maybe step through one? I would really appreciate that!


Hi, I am not sharing the steps for the puzzles in the contest right now, because i believe if you know the tricks, then you can solve it on your own. These are all easy puzzles.
So I have shared the common tricks that one can use to solve Windows Puzzles. I have posted a pdf on my blog (http://swaroopg92.blogspot.com/2016/01/puzzle-ramayan-2015-16-shading-round.html) or you can directly look at pdf with this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-1TteOwGbxHcHNlWkR0UjFUMEU/view?us...

Give a try using these steps, and if you still facing issues, then comment here, will post the steps for solving the contest puzzles.


OK, I'll take a look at those, thanks! And I forgot to say earlier that other than my complete bewilderment at Windows, I did really enjoy the puzzles, especially the variations. Nice job!!
@ 2016-01-26 7:59 AM (#20804 - in reply to #20803) (#20804) Top

Bram28



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Bram28 posted @ 2016-01-26 7:59 AM

Bram28 - 2016-01-25 7:13 PM

swaroop2011 - 2016-01-25 5:13 PM

Bram28 - 2016-01-25 11:05 PM

Got through everything fine ... except the Windows!! That was not a type I had done before, and I was completely lost, staring at them for about 30 minutes, with only the first one solved. Can someone please post some hints or tricks for Windows, or maybe step through one? I would really appreciate that!


Hi, I am not sharing the steps for the puzzles in the contest right now, because i believe if you know the tricks, then you can solve it on your own. These are all easy puzzles.
So I have shared the common tricks that one can use to solve Windows Puzzles. I have posted a pdf on my blog (http://swaroopg92.blogspot.com/2016/01/puzzle-ramayan-2015-16-shading-round.html) or you can directly look at pdf with this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-1TteOwGbxHcHNlWkR0UjFUMEU/view?us...

Give a try using these steps, and if you still facing issues, then comment here, will post the steps for solving the contest puzzles.


OK, I'll take a look at those, thanks! And I forgot to say earlier that other than my complete bewilderment at Windows, I did really enjoy the puzzles, especially the variations. Nice job!!


OK, I looked at your Tricks and I get it now: because you cannot create islands, you can never have a checkerboard pattern (Trick 2 ... and hence Trick 1 follows as a special case). Wow, that makes it easy indeed. Now I know. Thanks!
@ 2016-01-26 8:03 AM (#20805 - in reply to #20802) (#20805) Top

swaroop2011




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swaroop2011 posted @ 2016-01-26 8:03 AM

furudo.erika - 2016-01-26 4:46 AM

Thumbs up for the instructionless variants and some good rarer puzzle types with nicely flowing solving. Seems I find windows puzzles relaxing to solve. Nice to have a set of puzzles I can finish in the time too.


Thanks for your feedback. I am glad you enjoyed it.
@ 2016-01-26 8:04 AM (#20806 - in reply to #20804) (#20806) Top

swaroop2011




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swaroop2011 posted @ 2016-01-26 8:04 AM

Bram28 - 2016-01-26 7:59 AM

Bram28 - 2016-01-25 7:13 PM

swaroop2011 - 2016-01-25 5:13 PM

Bram28 - 2016-01-25 11:05 PM

Got through everything fine ... except the Windows!! That was not a type I had done before, and I was completely lost, staring at them for about 30 minutes, with only the first one solved. Can someone please post some hints or tricks for Windows, or maybe step through one? I would really appreciate that!


Hi, I am not sharing the steps for the puzzles in the contest right now, because i believe if you know the tricks, then you can solve it on your own. These are all easy puzzles.
So I have shared the common tricks that one can use to solve Windows Puzzles. I have posted a pdf on my blog (http://swaroopg92.blogspot.com/2016/01/puzzle-ramayan-2015-16-shading-round.html) or you can directly look at pdf with this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-1TteOwGbxHcHNlWkR0UjFUMEU/view?us...

Give a try using these steps, and if you still facing issues, then comment here, will post the steps for solving the contest puzzles.


OK, I'll take a look at those, thanks! And I forgot to say earlier that other than my complete bewilderment at Windows, I did really enjoy the puzzles, especially the variations. Nice job!!


OK, I looked at your Tricks and I get it now: because you cannot create islands, you can never have a checkerboard pattern (Trick 2 ... and hence Trick 1 follows as a special case). Wow, that makes it easy indeed. Now I know. Thanks!


Welcome. These tests are indeed planned to make one familiar with new types and tricks.
@ 2016-01-26 3:18 PM (#20809 - in reply to #20653) (#20809) Top

Vishal



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Vishal posted @ 2016-01-26 3:18 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Crazy Pavement
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Nice puzzle set, I thouroughly enjoyed all the puzzles which I solved within the time frame.

Special thanks to DEB MOHANTY. It's only due to his idea of solving it in the "PAINT" made me try and attempt the test without any botheration and difficulties reagrding printing, which I faced during my earlier puzzle tests(since I don't own, and have easy access to a printer).
@ 2016-01-26 6:39 PM (#20810 - in reply to #20653) (#20810) Top

blivet



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blivet posted @ 2016-01-26 6:39 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Paint By Number
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-01-26 10:47 PM (#20812 - in reply to #20653) (#20812) Top

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puzzlemad posted @ 2016-01-26 10:47 PM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-01-27 8:48 AM (#20818 - in reply to #20653) (#20818) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2016-01-27 8:48 AM

 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Heyawacky
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-01-27 9:27 AM (#20820 - in reply to #20653) (#20820) Top

Administrator



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Administrator posted @ 2016-01-27 9:27 AM

Password removed and solutions appended.
@ 2016-01-27 9:42 PM (#20825 - in reply to #20653) (#20825) Top

swaroop2011




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swaroop2011 posted @ 2016-01-27 9:42 PM

Thank you every one for their feedback. Congrats to EKBM, nyoroppyi and deu for top 3 spots.
Congrats to Prasanna, Rohan and Amit for finishing the test.

Most of the comments were "Just right or easy puzzles". Yes, it was expected. This test was meant to be easy, and it is clearly visible as 72 Solvers completed the test.
But I was expecting few more Indians to complete the test, that was little shocking. A very nice performance by Ashish and Kishore.

I would post more detail about puzzles, selection and creation as separate post soon. But till then, if any one was struggling with any particular puzzle, please post a comment here, so that I can help you solve it.

Thanks to LMI for giving me chance to author a contest. Also thanks to Branko for testing and his feedback.
@ 2016-01-28 2:53 AM (#20831 - in reply to #20820) (#20831) Top

Guest



Guest posted @ 2016-01-28 2:53 AM

Just opened up the no-password PB and it appeared to have two copies of all the puzzles (20 pages total)
@ 2016-01-28 6:03 AM (#20833 - in reply to #20831) (#20833) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2016-01-28 6:03 AM

Guest - 2016-01-28 2:53 AM

Just opened up the no-password PB and it appeared to have two copies of all the puzzles (20 pages total)
The last 10 pages are solutions to the puzzles in first 10 pages