Puzzle Ramayan - 2015-16
@ 2015-07-17 11:13 AM (#18770) (#18770) Top

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devarajand posted @ 2015-07-17 1:52 PM

Great.
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rajeshk posted @ 2015-07-17 2:30 PM

Wow! Looking forward to it.
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akash.doulani posted @ 2015-07-17 3:12 PM

I hope I can improve in puzzles by participating in this competition
@ 2015-07-17 10:27 PM (#18781 - in reply to #18770) (#18781) Top

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lenson posted @ 2015-07-17 10:27 PM

Great to hear!
@ 2015-07-20 8:55 AM (#18795 - in reply to #18770) (#18795) Top

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puneet87 posted @ 2015-07-20 8:55 AM

Looking forward. Is it starting before IPC? would be a great practice ....
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rakesh_rai posted @ 2015-07-20 5:47 PM

puneet87 - 2015-07-20 8:55 AM

Looking forward. Is it starting before IPC? would be a great practice ....
No.
26th July is Times Sudoku Prelims in Bangalore and 2nd Aug is Times Sudoku Finals in Mumbai. So it cannot happen before IPC which is on 9th Aug.
@ 2015-07-28 6:36 PM (#18860 - in reply to #18798) (#18860) Top

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About - Indian Puzzle Championship - 2016


Logic Masters India (LMI) is conducting the Indian Puzzle Championship (IPC) 2016 (tentatively) in July-2016. Unlike the last few years, the format is different, as the qualification for the IPC will begin in late August 2015.

There will be a series of eight online rounds (called Puzzle Ramayan, similar to last year's Sudoku Mahabharat for Sudokus), which act as a qualifier for the offline national finals. The Top-50 players from the online rounds will qualify for the finals. Provisions will be made for a deserving Indian performer not living in India to get on the National team. There will also be a system to reward newcomers & inexperienced solvers to preserve the essence of Sudoku Mahabharat and carry it forward to Puzzle Ramayan. This may include having separate criteria for the Ramayan winner and the IPC winner.

More details will be announced soon.


@ 2015-07-29 6:09 AM (#18862 - in reply to #18770) (#18862) Top

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puneet87 posted @ 2015-07-29 6:09 AM

Nice. looking forward to this.
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prasanna16391 posted @ 2015-08-25 3:05 PM

Details Including Schedule


Details are published here -
http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/2015-16pr.asp

As with Sudoku Mahabharat, this is mainly to put out the general format, schedule and idea of the event, we may iron out a few details like prizes, etc. a bit more soon.
We realize that September is pretty crowded, this is mainly because we need to keep a space for the World Championships in October.


@ 2015-10-07 9:41 PM (#19587 - in reply to #18770) (#19587) Top

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thesubro posted @ 2015-10-07 9:41 PM

I keep waiting to see the Leaderboard for the full Ramayan. Will that be published online soon? Thanks as always. TheSubro

Edited by thesubro 2015-10-07 9:41 PM
@ 2015-10-14 10:46 PM (#19619 - in reply to #19587) (#19619) Top

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thesubro - 2015-10-07 9:41 PM

I keep waiting to see the Leaderboard for the full Ramayan. Will that be published online soon? Thanks as always. TheSubro

It is now available - Indians onlyAll countries
@ 2015-11-02 12:26 AM (#19748 - in reply to #18770) (#19748) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-11-02 12:26 AM

Update - Wild Card

Following his impressive 19th place finish in the 24th World Puzzle Championship in Sofia, Bulgaria, Prasanna Seshadri gets a wildcard into the Indian A team for the 25th WPC in Slovakia, and won't be eligible for the Puzzle Ramayan leader-board and finals.


@ 2015-11-02 12:34 AM (#19750 - in reply to #18770) (#19750) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2015-11-02 12:34 AM

Update - Scoring system

After the first 3 rounds, we have noticed that it is very difficult to maintain a consistent difficulty level across rounds. This means, under the current scoring system, some rounds will become discards by default, which negates the discard advantages. So, we have decided to alter the scoring system to scale the scores in comparison to the best score for each round, starting at 100 and going lower. For the Puzzle Ramayan rankings, it will be the best Indian score among eligible players. For the International rankings it will be the best score in the round.





@ 2015-11-05 10:02 PM (#19820 - in reply to #18770) (#19820) Top

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Rankings updated after Evergreens - Indians onlyAll countries
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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-11-06 5:55 AM

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Rankings updated after Evergreens - Indians onlyAll countries


Is it possible to show results/ rankings for best 2 out of 3 results. That will give much better idea of actual rankings ?
@ 2015-11-06 6:01 AM (#19822 - in reply to #19821) (#19822) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-11-06 6:01 AM

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Rankings updated after Evergreens - Indians onlyAll countries


Is it possible to show results/ rankings for best 2 out of 3 results. That will give much better idea of actual rankings ?
Good point Swaroop. Will do the needful.
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vopani posted @ 2015-11-06 10:06 AM

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Rankings updated after Evergreens - Indians onlyAll countries


Is it possible to show results/ rankings for best 2 out of 3 results. That will give much better idea of actual rankings ?
Good point Swaroop. Will do the needful.

I don't get the point of showing best 2 out of 3. Finally, the worst two results get discarded. Why are we discarding just 1? I don't think this is an indication of actual rankings.
If you show results of best 1 out of 3, thats the 'actual score' the players are currently in. Or, always show best 6 out of 8, where all the remaining rounds are 0 until they get populated.
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swaroop2011 posted @ 2015-11-06 10:34 AM

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Rankings updated after Evergreens - Indians onlyAll countries


Is it possible to show results/ rankings for best 2 out of 3 results. That will give much better idea of actual rankings ?
Good point Swaroop. Will do the needful.

I don't get the point of showing best 2 out of 3. Finally, the worst two results get discarded. Why are we discarding just 1? I don't think this is an indication of actual rankings.
If you show results of best 1 out of 3, thats the 'actual score' the players are currently in. Or, always show best 6 out of 8, where all the remaining rounds are 0 until they get populated.


I said in the sense that, as some of us are authoring 1 round each, so we know that that round will be definitely discarded. So in that sense I said to show best 2 out of 3 until we have more enough rounds to discard 2 of them.
@ 2015-12-31 10:45 AM (#20456 - in reply to #18770) (#20456) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-12-31 10:45 AM

Rankings updated after Snakes - Indians onlyAll countries
@ 2016-01-27 9:02 AM (#20819 - in reply to #18770) (#20819) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2016-01-27 9:02 AM

Rankings updated after Shading round- Indians onlyAll countries
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swaroop2011 posted @ 2016-01-27 9:34 AM

debmohanty - 2016-01-27 9:02 AM

Rankings updated after Shading round- Indians onlyAll countries


Since we have enough rounds now, can we have best 4 out of 6 ? :)
@ 2016-01-27 5:24 PM (#20824 - in reply to #18770) (#20824) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2016-01-27 5:24 PM

Points table updated after excluding worst two rounds.

Indians: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/2015-16-ranks.asp
International: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/2015-16-ranks.asp?all=1
@ 2016-01-27 9:56 PM (#20826 - in reply to #18770) (#20826) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2016-01-27 9:56 PM

Thanks. It's turning out exciting. Close fight between 1st and 2nd spot, and similarly between 3rd and 4th spot.
@ 2016-01-27 9:59 PM (#20827 - in reply to #20826) (#20827) Top

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swaroop2011 - 2016-01-27 9:56 PM

Thanks. It's turning out exciting. Close fight between 1st and 2nd spot, and similarly between 3rd and 4th spot.
and 5th and 6th too.
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swaroop2011 - 2016-01-27 9:56 PM

Thanks. It's turning out exciting. Close fight between 1st and 2nd spot, and similarly between 3rd and 4th spot.
and 5th and 6th too.


yeah. Missed that. ^_^
@ 2016-03-02 8:51 AM (#21174 - in reply to #18770) (#21174) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2016-03-02 8:51 AM

@ 2016-03-17 5:31 PM (#21295 - in reply to #18770) (#21295) Top

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Mjdentist posted @ 2016-03-17 5:31 PM

Unable to understand this puzzle, can any one let me know what is this?
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rakesh_rai posted @ 2016-03-17 5:53 PM

Mjdentist - 2016-03-17 5:31 PM

Unable to understand this puzzle, can any one let me know what is this?
Which puzzle are you referring to?
@ 2016-03-29 6:15 AM (#21383 - in reply to #18770) (#21383) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2016-03-29 6:15 AM

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2016-03-29 9:32 AM

Hmm, ended up at 13th, that's good considering I authored the round I'm probably strongest at :P
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marred posted @ 2016-03-29 1:35 PM

Thanks for great contest, I can't wait to 2016/17 edition.
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brecher92 posted @ 2016-04-05 6:26 AM

Same here. Somehow the contests always ended up scheduled on bad weekends for me -- hope to compete in more than 2 of 8 next time.

p.s. I vote for longer timeframes for each context -- weeknights are usually better for me than weekends.


Edited by brecher92 2016-04-05 6:26 AM
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prasanna16391 posted @ 2016-05-03 7:29 PM

Venue and details for offline finals


Please check here for the venue, dates, participation fee, and other necessary details about the offline finals of Puzzle Ramayan & IPC 2016 here - http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/2015-16sm-pr-finals.asp
Please note that the top 50 of PR can also participate in day one's Sudoku Mahabharat event.
An email will be sent to the qualifiers shortly with an invite letter containing the same details.
Feel free to post any queries you may have here.


@ 2016-05-05 2:54 AM (#21643 - in reply to #18770) (#21643) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2016-05-05 2:54 AM

Mails have been sent to the top 50 of PR. Some of these mails may have been sent as a part of the SM bunch since the invite is the same. Please check your spam if you don't see it in your inbox, read up, and give us a reply.
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prasanna16391 posted @ 2016-06-14 9:48 PM

Preliminary version of the Instruction booklet of Puzzle Ramayan (Day 2) has been sent to participants.
@ 2016-06-23 10:03 PM (#21714 - in reply to #18770) (#21714) Top

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vopani posted @ 2016-06-23 10:03 PM

Will the order of puzzles in PB be same as that in IB?
If not, can the points table reflect the correct order of puzzles in PB?
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debmohanty posted @ 2016-06-24 5:28 AM

Rohan Rao - 2016-06-23 10:03 PM

Will the order of puzzles in PB be same as that in IB?
If not, can the points table reflect the correct order of puzzles in PB?


For rounds 1,2,4 -> order of puzzles in PB will match with that in IB.
I'm not 100% sure about R3 yet, but it should match too. If it does not, we will reflect the same in points table.
@ 2016-06-26 1:02 PM (#21717 - in reply to #21715) (#21717) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2016-06-26 1:02 PM

debmohanty - 2016-06-24 5:28 AM

Rohan Rao - 2016-06-23 10:03 PM

Will the order of puzzles in PB be same as that in IB?
If not, can the points table reflect the correct order of puzzles in PB?


For rounds 1,2,4 -> order of puzzles in PB will match with that in IB.
I'm not 100% sure about R3 yet, but it should match too. If it does not, we will reflect the same in points table.

Confirming that the order of puzzles in R3 will be same as that in IB.
@ 2016-07-08 1:25 PM (#21736 - in reply to #21717) (#21736) Top

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vopani posted @ 2016-07-08 1:25 PM

In Area Maze,

1. Can we infer in the puzzle below that the answer is 6cm2? Or is the data insufficient?


2. Can we infer in the puzzle below that the answer is 15cm? Or is the data insufficient?


P.S. Typo - All areas are cm2, not cm3.
@ 2016-07-08 1:40 PM (#21737 - in reply to #21736) (#21737) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2016-07-08 1:40 PM

Technically, data is insufficient in both cases. Remember that you should/can not be using rulers to find length of lines.

In first case, you need a ruler to measure that the height of the rectangle with "?" and the height of the rectangle with area as 15 are same.

We need another line to provide the information that the heights are same.



In second case, since the rectangle in question is completely detached from rest of the world, there is absolutely no information about the height and width.

@ 2016-07-09 9:40 AM (#21740 - in reply to #21737) (#21740) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2016-07-09 9:40 AM

Final version of PR IB has been sent to confirmed participants.
@ 2016-07-12 6:13 PM (#21741 - in reply to #18770) (#21741) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2016-07-12 6:13 PM

I have doubt regarding "Sequence" puzzle in Round 4.
Can the answer be 144 too using clue 72?

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2016-07-12 8:59 PM

rajeshk - 2016-07-12 6:13 PM

I have doubt regarding "Sequence" puzzle in Round 4.
Can the answer be 144 too using clue 72?

As I understand this, the sequence has the factors of the clue number (72) in ascending order. So the answer should be 36. What is the logic for 144?
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debmohanty posted @ 2016-07-12 9:28 PM

rajeshk - 2016-07-12 6:13 PM

I have doubt regarding "Sequence" puzzle in Round 4.
Can the answer be 144 too using clue 72?


What is the logic for 144?

Rakesh is correct that these are factors of 72 in ascending order. So the next numbers in the sequence are 36 and 72. The sequence is "not defined" after that.
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prasanna16391 posted @ 2016-07-12 10:39 PM

rajeshk - 2016-07-12 6:13 PM

I have doubt regarding "Sequence" puzzle in Round 4.
Can the answer be 144 too using clue 72?



Everything else is a divisor, in order, why would the last one suddenly be a multiple?
@ 2016-07-13 10:56 AM (#21745 - in reply to #18770) (#21745) Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2016-07-13 10:56 AM

Thanks! Got it. My Logic was quite different which lead it to answer 144 :(
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swaroop2011 posted @ 2016-07-16 9:41 PM

Best of Luck guys :)
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Administrator posted @ 2016-07-17 9:06 PM

The Indian Puzzle Championship (IPC) 2016 and Puzzle Ramayan finals were held at Quality Inn Sabari Hotel, Chennai on 17th July 2016.


Results of IPC 2016
1. Amit Sowani
2. Rohan Rao
3. Rakesh Rai
4. Rajesh Kumar
5. Jaipal Reddy

Results of Puzzle Ramayan 2016
1. Ashish Kumar
2. Kishore Kumar
3. R Varun
4. Akash Doulani
4. Utkaarsh Somaiya
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swaroop2011 posted @ 2016-07-17 10:10 PM

Congrats guys :)

Can someone post entire results with points ? (Just photo would be enough). Thanks


Edited by swaroop2011 2016-07-17 10:13 PM
@ 2016-07-18 7:26 AM (#21770 - in reply to #18770) (#21770) Top

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devarajand posted @ 2016-07-18 7:26 AM

Those who took photos, all can post it in the forum pl.
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rakesh_rai posted @ 2016-07-18 10:30 AM

@ 2016-07-20 9:47 PM (#21785 - in reply to #18770) (#21785) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2016-07-20 9:47 PM

Results of the Indian Puzzle Championship 2016


Results of Puzzle Ramayan 2016



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2016-07-28 2:13 PM

PR Finals Content on Sale


The entire content of Puzzle Ramayan Finals is now available for sale as online PDF booklets for anyone interested. The pricing is Rs. 400 for Indian solvers and $ 9 for International solvers. All puzzles are authored by Deb Mohanty and me. Indians must transfer to the LMI account (details provided below) and Internationals can transfer via PayPal to prasanna16391@gmail.com since the LMI account isn't tied to PayPal yet. Either way, please drop me a mail (same id as the PayPal one) once the transfer is done with some reference details.

LMI account:
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The content that you will get includes:
* Round 1 - 8 Puzzles and Solutions. The types are Hitori, Kakuro, Dominos, Area Division, Horse Snake, Crazy Pavement, Linesweeper and Pentomino, one type each from the 8 different online Puzzle Ramayan rounds.
* Round 2 - 8 Puzzles and Solutions. The types are Capsules, Tomtom, Thermometer, Cave, Slitherlink Snake, Crazy Pavement, Yajilin and Crossnumber, one type each which didn't appear in the respective category of the 8 different online Puzzle Ramayan rounds.
* Round 3 - 40 Puzzles and Solutions. One puzzle each from all types (excluding Exploratory section) which appeared in the 8 different online Puzzle Ramayan rounds, mostly at easier difficulty and some in smaller sizes.
* Round 4 - 16 Puzzles and Solutions. This was a Casual Puzzles round with a lot of puzzle types which have simple rules and are common in Brain Teaser books and so on like Find the Difference, Word Search, Area Maze, etc.
* Round 5 - Domino Windows. This was a mechanical round involving placing Dominos, while considering colors and sums. The online PDF version of this will include a page having the tiles to cut, the rules and a page to place the tiles into.
* Puzzle Ramayan Top 5 Playoff Puzzles - Masyu, Kakuro, Star Battle, Crazy Pavement, Fence, Kropki, and Solutions.
* Indian Puzzle Championship Trophy Puzzles - Fence, Four Winds and Fillomino themed on 1, 2 and 3 respectively which were then designed on the trophies presented to the winners.
* Puzzle Gift - 8 8x8 grids Linked Cipher puzzle including the types Four Winds, Skyscrapers, Magnets, Fillomino, Classic Snake, Lakes, Linesweeper and Minesweeper, one each from the 8 online rounds, and Solution.

Our $ 6 patrons will be receiving this content over the next month or so.
We have a similar sale of Sudoku Mahabharat content. Please check out the details for that here - http://logicmastersindia.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1013&...

@ 2016-08-02 4:17 PM (#21824 - in reply to #18770) (#21824) Top

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deepti.garg posted @ 2016-08-02 4:17 PM

Is the Indian Puzzle Champiosnhip and Sudoku championship different? What is the process for puzzle championship, how to participate?
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deepti.garg posted @ 2016-08-02 4:20 PM

And how is the Times SUdoku championship different from Indian Sudoku Championship.. PLease help..
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kishy72 posted @ 2016-08-02 4:32 PM

deepti.garg - 2016-08-02 4:20 PM

And how is the Times SUdoku championship different from Indian Sudoku Championship.. PLease help..


TSC is for selecting 4 finalists(2 experienced + 2 inexperienced) who will be sponsored (Participation and travel expenses)at WSC.The top four in ISC will represent the India-A Team at WSC(they will not be sponsored unless the same person is in top 4 of TSC as well).

*Experienced solver is one who has represented India in past world championships atleast once .
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rvarun posted @ 2016-08-02 5:33 PM

deepti.garg - 2016-08-02 4:17 PM

Is the Indian Puzzle Champiosnhip and Sudoku championship different? What is the process for puzzle championship, how to participate?


The Indian Sudoku Championship tests the participants on various types of Sudokus and select the National Sudoku Champion and the A Team for the World Sudoku Championship.

The Indian Puzzle Championships tests the participants with other types of puzzles like grid based, visual etc. This is to select the National Puzzle Champion and the A Team for the World Puzzle Championships.

The 2016 edition of both the events were held on July 16-17.

You can participate in the monthly contests in the site and check out the site regularly for any announcements on the 2017 edition of the events.
@ 2016-08-02 7:00 PM (#21829 - in reply to #18770) (#21829) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2016-08-02 7:00 PM

The first refusal (i.e. as long as they confirm participation, they are in) selections for Indian teams for WPC are as follows:

India - A
Prasanna Seshadri
Amit Sowani
Rohan Rao
Swaroop Guggilam

India - B
Rakesh Rai
Rajesh Kumar
Jaipal Reddy
Ashish Kumar
@ 2016-10-25 3:52 AM (#22042 - in reply to #18770) (#22042) Top

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mstang posted @ 2016-10-25 3:52 AM

Are PR (and SM) happening this year? If so, when do they start? :)