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Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January
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Subject: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-05 7:09 AM (#14015) (#14015) Top


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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-05 9:24 AM (#14016 - in reply to #14015) (#14016) Top


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wow :)
I know i am weak in it but still looking forward to it :)

Edited by swaroop2011 2014-01-05 9:25 AM
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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-06 8:42 AM (#14021 - in reply to #14015) (#14021) Top


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Logic Masters India announces January Puzzle Test - Kakuro

Dates : 11th — 13th Jan

Instruction Booklet & Submission : Link

Authors : Matus DEMIGER & Jakub ONDROUSEK

This test contains classic Kakuro puzzle and some of its variants.

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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-06 9:13 PM (#14022 - in reply to #14021) (#14022) Top



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From the IB, it seems online solving will be enabled. Will there be some practice puzzles online before the test?
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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-07 8:38 AM (#14026 - in reply to #14022) (#14026) Top


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rakesh_rai - 2014-01-06 9:13 PM

From the IB, it seems online solving will be enabled. Will there be some practice puzzles online before the test?
LMI's sudoku solving interface will be reused for this test. Practice puzzles will be available to solve online before the test (hopefully much sooner).
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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-08 5:53 AM (#14033 - in reply to #14026) (#14033) Top


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Practice Puzzles

The authors have been kind to pin together some practice puzzles into a pdf. Here is the link to download them all.

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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-08 8:45 AM (#14034 - in reply to #14015) (#14034) Top




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Thanks for practice puzzles. As a big fan of non-Sudoku number filling puzzles, I'm really looking forward to this test.

It looks like Giant GT has two solutions. Top left part can be both

4617
6849

and

3627
7839.
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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-08 3:13 PM (#14035 - in reply to #14022) (#14035) Top


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rakesh_rai - 2014-01-06 9:13 PM

From the IB, it seems online solving will be enabled. Will there be some practice puzzles online before the test?
All the examples from IB can now be practiced online.
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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-08 5:10 PM (#14036 - in reply to #14034) (#14036) Top


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deu - 2014-01-08 8:45 AM

Thanks for practice puzzles. As a big fan of non-Sudoku number filling puzzles, I'm really looking forward to this test.

It looks like Giant GT has two solutions. Top left part can be both

4617
6849

and

3627
7839.


Hideaki, it seems so. I am sorry, but had not enough time to resolve all practice puzzles before publishing. I hope you will enjoy the competition.

Matus
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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-09 12:45 AM (#14039 - in reply to #14034) (#14039) Top


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deu - 2014-01-08 8:45 AM

Thanks for practice puzzles. As a big fan of non-Sudoku number filling puzzles, I'm really looking forward to this test.

It looks like Giant GT has two solutions. Top left part can be both

4617
6849

and

3627
7839.


You are right. I will change these two numbers in the first row 18 -> 17 and in the second row 27 -> 28. I´m not the author of this puzzle so maybe Matus modify it in a different way :)

Jakub
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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-09 12:38 PM (#14049 - in reply to #14015) (#14049) Top





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where is the competition is held on 11-13th jan ???

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Subject: RE: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-09 4:55 PM (#14052 - in reply to #14015) (#14052) Top


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Another practice puzzle - mixture of Diagonal and Consecutive kakuro can be found here: http://www.slovaksudoku.com/en/blog/extra-kakuro.html
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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-09 4:59 PM (#14053 - in reply to #14049) (#14053) Top



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SyedMazharullah - 2014-01-09 12:38 PM

where is the competition is held on 11-13th jan ???



Online at http://logicmastersindia.com/2014/01P/
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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-10 3:37 AM (#14056 - in reply to #14053) (#14056) Top


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The points for each puzzle is now added to the IB. Here they are :
A) Classic kakuro 34 + 70 points
B) Diagonal kakuro 46 + 92 points
C) Odd-Even kakuro 42 + 98 points
D) Consecutive kakuro 36 + 111 points
E) Untouch kakuro 38 + 94 points
F) GT kakuro 50 + 77 points
G) Antiknight kakuro 41 + 50 points
H) Quadruple kakuro 39 + 82 points

Total = 1000 points.
Time bonus : 1 point per each 7 seconds saved
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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-11 11:34 AM (#14065 - in reply to #14015) (#14065) Top



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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I don't know whether it's because I plain suck at Kakuro or the puzzles are terribly imbalanced toward the hard side, but having only 50% complete while I usually score around 70-80% sounds a bit unusual...

The solving paths seem to require some bruteforce in most puzzles I attempted? Or otherwise require a lot of mental additions. (I used scratch paper.) Or I just miss much more elegant solving paths.

Anyway, good test.
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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-11 11:38 AM (#14066 - in reply to #14015) (#14066) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Very nice contest. I especially loved how the solve path plays out for some of the puzzles.

@chaotic_iak: Most of the puzzles worked out just fine for me. I scored nearly 700, and would have gotten another 100 if I haven't botched solving the big odd/even. On the other hand, I am quite comfortable with Kakuro. Ya, there are some additions for sure, but I always take that as a part of Kakuro, as long as it isn't too ridiculous.

Edited by achan1058 2014-01-11 11:41 AM
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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-11 3:11 PM (#14068 - in reply to #14065) (#14068) Top


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chaotic_iak - 2014-01-11 11:34 AM

I don't know whether it's because I plain suck at Kakuro or the puzzles are terribly imbalanced toward the hard side, but having only 50% complete while I usually score around 70-80% sounds a bit unusual...

The solving paths seem to require some bruteforce in most puzzles I attempted? Or otherwise require a lot of mental additions. (I used scratch paper.) Or I just miss much more elegant solving paths.

Anyway, good test.


All the puzzles are solvable by plain logic. Yes, some of them are harder, but no bruteforce is needed. As you can see, quarter of the participants have solved (nearly) everything, some of them in incredibly good times.

Edited by greenhorn 2014-01-11 3:12 PM
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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-11 3:23 PM (#14069 - in reply to #14066) (#14069) Top


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achan1058 - 2014-01-11 11:38 AM

Very nice contest. I especially loved how the solve path plays out for some of the puzzles.

@chaotic_iak: Most of the puzzles worked out just fine for me. I scored nearly 700, and would have gotten another 100 if I haven't botched solving the big odd/even. On the other hand, I am quite comfortable with Kakuro. Ya, there are some additions for sure, but I always take that as a part of Kakuro, as long as it isn't too ridiculous.


Thank you, Aaron
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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-11 10:34 PM (#14071 - in reply to #14015) (#14071) Top


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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? A bit skewed
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-12 12:59 AM (#14073 - in reply to #14015) (#14073) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-12 6:36 AM (#14075 - in reply to #14015) (#14075) Top


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This was a fun contest! The puzzles were very nice -- but I don't think the point distribution was very good. In many cases the big puzzle barely took me any more time (if any) than the small one despite being worth a lot more points.
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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-12 2:54 PM (#14076 - in reply to #14015) (#14076) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-12 3:38 PM (#14077 - in reply to #14015) (#14077) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-12 7:31 PM (#14079 - in reply to #14015) (#14079) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-12 9:31 PM (#14080 - in reply to #14015) (#14080) Top




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Well, I don't know if this was the issue with online version only (as I did the online version and haven't downloaded the PDF) but I found mistakes in odd-even small. There were two "equations" that didn't fit my numbers in the table but afterall I submitted them (even I knew my equals are lower than the wanted ones) and it was considered right...
(my different equations were 36 (the original one in online version test - third from the right in the top row) - mine got 34; and 35 (original one - second from the bottom in the left column) - mine was 33.)
I just thought if it was a general mistake or something else.
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