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Poll TVC XV — 14th - 16th September
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Select the Tapa variations that you would want to see in TVC XV
We are preparing TVC XV puzzles considering result of the poll. Most voted 6 variations will be directly placed in TVC XV. You can choose upto 5 variations. Link to Tapa Variations List.
OptionResults
Tapa Skyscrapers [TVC List, No 114]14 Votes - [11.67%]
Tapa Double Back [TVC List, No 97]13 Votes - [10.83%]
Hexa Tapa [TVC List, No 1]13 Votes - [10.83%]
Kakuro Style Tapa [TVC List, No 116]12 Votes - [10%]
Twopa [TVC List, No 96]11 Votes - [9.17%]
Total False Tapa [TVC List, No 68]10 Votes - [8.33%]
Tapa: Complementary Pairs [TVC List, No 108]9 Votes - [7.5%]
Math Tapa [TVC List, No 3]9 Votes - [7.5%]
Magnetic Tapa [TVC List, No 75]8 Votes - [6.67%]
Double Tapa [TVC List, No 29]8 Votes - [6.67%]
Ugly Tapa [TVC List, No 123]7 Votes - [5.83%]
PhotoTapa [TVC List, No 106]6 Votes - [5%]
This is a multiple choice poll.

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Subject: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-08-24 8:34 AM (#12430) (#12430) Top


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Tapa Variations Contest XV

Date: 14th - 16th September 2013

Length: 75+5 minutes

IB and Submission Link : http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/XV/
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-08-24 8:45 AM (#12431 - in reply to #12430) (#12431) Top


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Vote for the Tapa variations that you would want to see in TVC XV

We are preparing TVC XV puzzles considering result of the poll. Most voted 6 variations will be directly placed in TVC XV. You can choose upto 5 variations.

  • Scroll up in this thread to see variations that you can vote for.
  • The list of all variations can be found here.
  • Please vote for only 5 types (although the poll system will allow you to vote for more).
  • You can view the poll results summary only after you have voted.

kiwijam
Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-08-27 2:44 AM (#12458 - in reply to #12430) (#12458) Top




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Does the Double Tapa (#29) example have two solutions? (R2C5 can be white or grey)

Edited by kiwijam 2013-08-27 2:44 AM
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-08-27 10:47 AM (#12465 - in reply to #12430) (#12465) Top


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Please note that voting ends on Friday (i.e. before TVC XIV starts). So little less than 4 days as I post this.
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-08-31 6:01 AM (#12514 - in reply to #12430) (#12514) Top


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Voting is closed now.

[Although the forum will allow you to vote, you will notice that your options are not being stored, but you will not see any warnings.]
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-09 6:26 AM (#12639 - in reply to #12430) (#12639) Top


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Instructions Booklet is now available

Instructions booklet for TVC XV is now available. Please check the submission page.

Also, do not forget to vote for Tapa types in TVC XVI.


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Subject: TVC XV Practise: Introduction @ 2013-09-09 11:02 PM (#12643 - in reply to #12430) (#12643) Top


Link to original post : TVC XV Practise: Introduction

This weekend is TVC XV at Logicmasters India. It features five variants new to the TVC. The other five have appeared before. Many of the new variants have been posted on blogs before though. I will again try to write a practise puzzle for each variant. But here's again a collection of links to examples of these Tapa variants. If someone else knows of more exaples, feel free to add some links to them in the comments.

You will also again be able to vote for some of the variants which will appear in TVC XVI. I think this might be because some of the variants are getting a bit sketchy and Serkan wants to judge if people like the idea of certain variants or not in advance. Sometimes it's tricky to make a variant idea work, especially if you don't have any examples of it yet.
I would have found it interesting that TVC XVI would have featured a single variant as the main focus and make double variant puzzles. My best suggestion would have been Pata as that only changes what the clues indicate. So a Pata Islands or Pata Elimination is easily possible. I think that might be fun too.

Links to puzzles:

Tapa Regional:
http://mellowmelon.wordpress.com/2012/02/22/puzzle-389/
http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/?test=M201209P
http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/tvc-xiv-practise-part-2.html
http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/XIV/

Hexa Tapa:
http://oapc.wpc2009.org/archive.php?id=52
http://valezius.blogspot.com.au/2013/02/nr-992-hexa-tapa.html

Outside Tapa:
http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/?test=TVC8

Total False Tapa:
http://valezius.blogspot.com.au/2013/02/nr-989-total-false-tapa.html
http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/IX/
http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/X
http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/tvc-ix-practise.html
http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/tvc-x-practise.html

Tapa [Skyscrapers]:
http://yureklis.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/puzzle-28-tapa-skyscrapers/
http://prasannaseshadri.wordpress.com/2012/06/17/puzzle-no-172-tapa-skyscrapers/
http://prasannaseshadri.wordpress.com/2013/03/11/puzzle-no-316-336-polish-championship-set/
 
Tapa Doubleback:
http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.com.au/2011/12/puzzle-70-tapa-double-back.html
http://valezius.blogspot.com.au/2011/12/aa.html (without Tapa clues)
http://inabapuzzle.com/honkaku/disco.html (without Tapa clues)

Compass Tapa:
http://buyaketa.blogspot.com/2012/02/compass-tapa.html
http://mellowmelon.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/tvc12-practice.pdf
http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/tvc-xii-practise-part-3.html
http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/?test=TVC12
http://yureklis.wordpress.com/2012/06/03/puzzle-10-compass-tapa/

Kakuro-Style Tapa:
http://anuragthefirst.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/kakuro-style-tapa_2575.html
http://anuragthefirst.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/kakuro-style-tapa_3.html

Twopa:
http://prasannaseshadri.wordpress.com/2012/03/30/puzzle-no-111-two-pa/
http://prasannaseshadri.wordpress.com/2012/04/01/puzzle-no-113-two-pa-part-two/
http://prasannaseshadri.wordpress.com/2012/04/01/puzzle-no-115-two-pa2/


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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-11 11:32 PM (#12670 - in reply to #12643) (#12670) Top


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Practice puzzles from Bram - Part 1
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-12 1:45 PM (#12673 - in reply to #12430) (#12673) Top




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In total false Tapa pl clarify the follwing.
1. If a single digit be divided in to two. Can the sum of the two digits equal to the given number.

Edited by devarajand 2013-09-12 2:07 PM
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-13 12:21 AM (#12677 - in reply to #12673) (#12677) Top



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devarajand - 2013-09-12 1:45 PM

In total false Tapa pl clarify the follwing.
1. If a single digit be divided in to two. Can the sum of the two digits equal to the given number.


Yes, the rules allow for that.
In one of the examples created by Bram you can see a 2 clue in the corner which has to become a 1-1 clue in the final solution.

Valezius
Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-13 12:22 AM (#12678 - in reply to #12673) (#12678) Top


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devarajand - 2013-09-12 1:45 PM

In total false Tapa pl clarify the follwing.
1. If a single digit be divided in to two. Can the sum of the two digits equal to the given number.


Yes. If the false clue is '3'.
The real clue can be: 11 / 12 / 14 / 15 / 22 / 24 / 111 / 112 / 122 / 1111
Two cases ( 12 / 111) the sum is 3 which is possible.
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-13 10:26 AM (#12682 - in reply to #12670) (#12682) Top


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Administrator - 2013-09-11 11:32 PM

Practice puzzles from Bram - Part 1
Part 2
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-14 8:34 AM (#12691 - in reply to #12430) (#12691) Top


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PuzzlePoints
1. Tapa [Regional]108
2. Hexa Tapa94
3. Outside Tapa89
4. Total False Tapa33
5. Tapa [Skyscrapers]72 + 77
6. Tapa Double Back48 + 63
7. Compass Tapa57 + 106
8. Kakuro-Style Tapa59 + 60
9. No-Islands Tapa72
10. Twopa31 + 31

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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-14 12:24 PM (#12694 - in reply to #12430) (#12694) Top



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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-14 9:49 PM (#12698 - in reply to #12430) (#12698) Top




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In Compass TAPA is it a must to have a white cell below the arrow mark.
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-14 9:57 PM (#12699 - in reply to #12430) (#12699) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
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 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-14 10:13 PM (#12700 - in reply to #12430) (#12700) Top




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In Compass TAPA is it a must to have a white cell below the arrow mark.
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-15 12:32 AM (#12702 - in reply to #12700) (#12702) Top


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devarajand - 2013-09-14 10:13 PM

In Compass TAPA is it a must to have a white cell below the arrow mark.


I assume you're mentioning this for arrows pointing upward. If so, then no. You could have a shaded cell below the arrow mark that could be a dead-end right? The rule is only that, that cell can reach the star only in the direction of the arrow.
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-15 1:58 AM (#12703 - in reply to #12430) (#12703) Top


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Problems with the printer at the start, and one of the papers tearing on the way out isn't a good way to start off. Thankfully just lost about 2-3 minutes in this. The frustrations went away soon.

Its a good thing the Hexa Tapa was easy, if it was big plus hard, that'd be too much for a time-solving environment I think. As it is, it fitted in well and I really liked it. A big compass Tapa is scary. Really scary. Quite a relief when I saw that was right. The Double Back bottom was probably my favorite, just a few little double back deductions needed before the Tapa takes over, with a nice theme. The top one with the 3-3s affecting the ring around the middle was cool too. I usually am horrible at No Islands, but thankfully it went smoothly here.

Thanks for another fun test, Serkan.
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-15 2:02 PM (#12704 - in reply to #12703) (#12704) Top




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prasanna16391 - 2013-09-15 1:58 AM

I usually am horrible at No Islands, but thankfully it went smoothly here.



How can you be "usually horrible" at a new variant?
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-15 2:44 PM (#12705 - in reply to #12430) (#12705) Top




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 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-15 3:16 PM (#12706 - in reply to #12704) (#12706) Top


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prasanna16391 - 2013-09-15 1:58 AM

I usually am horrible at No Islands, but thankfully it went smoothly here.



How can you be "usually horrible" at a new variant?


Well I took an hour on the example in the IB and about 25 minutes on your practice puzzle
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-15 4:43 PM (#12708 - in reply to #12430) (#12708) Top




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In Twopa there are two solutions but either solution could be 10a or 10b. Does this mean that when submitting answers there are two correct options for entering 10a and 10b?
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-15 4:57 PM (#12709 - in reply to #12708) (#12709) Top


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kiwijam - 2013-09-15 4:43 PM

In Twopa there are two solutions but either solution could be 10a or 10b. Does this mean that when submitting answers there are two correct options for entering 10a and 10b?


Yes, it works exactly as you mention
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Subject: Re: TVC XV — 14th - 16th September @ 2013-09-15 7:41 PM (#12710 - in reply to #12430) (#12710) Top




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 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
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