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WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013
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Subject: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-09 7:18 PM (#11179) (#11179) Top


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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-09 9:00 PM (#11181 - in reply to #11179) (#11181) Top


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Logic Masters India announces WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round


Dates : 22nd — 24th June

Instructions Booklet and Submission : here

Authors : Salih Alan & Serkan Yurekli

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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-09 10:52 PM (#11182 - in reply to #11179) (#11182) Top


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In the Scale Sudoku example, shouldn't A be heavier than B?
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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-09 10:59 PM (#11183 - in reply to #11182) (#11183) Top


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It should not. Actually B should contain digits 3 5 and 4. The last digit is written wrong in the solution. So, the sum of digits in both A and B are 12.
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Subject: RE: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-09 11:14 PM (#11184 - in reply to #11179) (#11184) Top



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I have a question concerning the puzzle N°19 Psycho Killer:

Will the competition puzzle be a 9*9 classic (with 3*3 boxes) sudoku? The boxes are not shown in the example, and as it's a 6*6 sudoku, it's ambiguous: boxes can be 2*3 or 3*2. Is it part of solving to determine the boxes?

Fred

Edit: in fact boxes are wrong in the solution of the example (some digits are repeated): is it supposed to be an irregular sudoku or a latin square???

Edited by Fred76 2013-06-09 11:17 PM
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Subject: RE: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-09 11:34 PM (#11185 - in reply to #11184) (#11185) Top


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The instruction is correct. But the example is not approriate for this instruction. You can find an appropriate example in this link: http://www.logic-masters.de/Raetselportal/Raetsel/zeigen.php?id=000...
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Subject: RE: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-09 11:38 PM (#11186 - in reply to #11185) (#11186) Top



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bskbri - 2013-06-09 11:34 PM

The instruction is correct. But the example is not approriate for this instruction. You can find an appropriate example in this link: http://www.logic-masters.de/Raetselportal/Raetsel/zeigen.php?id=000...


Thanks
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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-10 12:33 AM (#11187 - in reply to #11183) (#11187) Top


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bskbri - 2013-06-09 10:59 PM

It should not. Actually B should contain digits 3 5 and 4. The last digit is written wrong in the solution. So, the sum of digits in both A and B are 12.


Ah right, I just saw A-F to understand the added rule and didn't check the Sudoku bit.
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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-10 10:31 AM (#11188 - in reply to #11179) (#11188) Top


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Here are some of the practice puzzles for this contest. These are the puzzles I created during OAPC Contest long back.

Tripod Sudoku
http://www.funwithpuzzles.com/search/label/Tripod%20Sudoku?max-resu...
Psycho Killer
http://www.funwithpuzzles.com/search/label/Psycho%20Killer?max-resu...
Snail Sudoku
http://www.funwithpuzzles.com/2010/05/snail-sudoku.html

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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-13 9:51 AM (#11208 - in reply to #11188) (#11208) Top


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No online solving


Online solving will not be available in this test.



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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-18 2:22 PM (#11251 - in reply to #11179) (#11251) Top




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For puzzle 5 - One Digit Unique Solution

From instructions: ...place a digit into the grey CELLS...

So there will be more grey cells in the grid? Or just one cell?
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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-18 3:35 PM (#11252 - in reply to #11251) (#11252) Top


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Gotroch - 2013-06-18 2:22 PM

For puzzle 5 - One Digit Unique Solution

From instructions: ...place a digit into the grey CELLS...

So there will be more grey cells in the grid? Or just one cell?


Only one gray cell will be
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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-21 1:59 AM (#11270 - in reply to #11179) (#11270) Top




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For puzzle 6, logidoku, constraint #2 is ambiguous. Please clarify which is intended
- neither A nor E is odd
- the sum of A + E is not odd

It would also have been less confusing if the definitions underneath the sample didn't include the digits 7,8, 9!

Thanks
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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-21 2:36 AM (#11271 - in reply to #11270) (#11271) Top


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Constraint 2 in the example states that neither A nor E is odd.

The definitions include digits 1 to 9, because the competition puzzle will be 1 to 9.
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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-21 8:33 PM (#11281 - in reply to #11179) (#11281) Top




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Will you publish the point distribution for the puzzles beforehand?
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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-21 8:42 PM (#11282 - in reply to #11281) (#11282) Top


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UllaE - 2013-06-21 8:33 PM

Will you publish the point distribution for the puzzles beforehand?
The points distribution will not be published before the contest. It will be only available in the competition pdf.
Related note : LMI's submission page will not display points for the puzzles.
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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-21 8:50 PM (#11283 - in reply to #11282) (#11283) Top




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UllaE - 2013-06-21 8:33 PM

Will you publish the point distribution for the puzzles beforehand?
The points distribution will not be published before the contest. It will be only available in the competition pdf.
Related note : LMI's submission page will not display points for the puzzles.


Thanks for the info.
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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-21 9:08 PM (#11284 - in reply to #11179) (#11284) Top


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Announcements

1) Password protected Sudoku booklet will have 21 pages. There is no cover page or points table. Each page has one sudoku.
2) The points distribution will not be published before the contest. It will be only available in the competition pdf. Related note : LMI's submission page will not display points for the puzzles.
3) Total points = 707. If all sudokus are submitted correctly, bonus points 8 per minute will be awarded.
4) Online solving will not be available in this contest.
5) This thread will be made restricted so that players can freely discuss about the competition.

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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-22 12:16 PM (#11288 - in reply to #11284) (#11288) Top


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Link to score page : http://logicmastersindia.com/2013/06S/score.asp
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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-22 2:29 PM (#11289 - in reply to #11179) (#11289) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Very skewed
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-22 2:30 PM (#11290 - in reply to #11179) (#11290) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too many pages / too large grids


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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-22 2:35 PM (#11291 - in reply to #11179) (#11291) Top




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We have another event for that - The Puzzle World Championship...
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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-22 3:16 PM (#11292 - in reply to #11291) (#11292) Top


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TiiT - 2013-06-22 2:35 PM

We have another event for that - The Puzzle World Championship...


:)

Can you please specify the Sudoku names, which you think is more of a puzzle than a Sudoku?
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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-22 3:31 PM (#11293 - in reply to #11179) (#11293) Top




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Logidoku, Tripod, Searchdoku, Snapshot sudoku, Psycho killer, Irregular sudoku bands, Sudoku blocks. In all of them you first had to solve another puzzle, and then solve sudoku.
Don't get me wrong - these puzzles were great, but just no very suitable in here. We have like 500 solvers in here, but about 30 are able to solve them. But that's just my opinion, which might also be wrong.
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Subject: Re: WPF Sudoku Grand Prix — Turkish Round — 22nd - 24th June 2013 @ 2013-06-22 7:05 PM (#11294 - in reply to #11179) (#11294) Top


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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too few pages / too small grids


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