SM 2024 R3 - Math & Neighbours (5th - 11th Apr) Score Discuss
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@ 2018-03-28 8:48 AM (#24577) (#24577) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-03-28 8:48 AM


Coming Soon!




@ 2018-04-02 10:20 AM (#24609 - in reply to #24577) (#24609) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-04-02 10:20 AM

Some notes about April Contest

Please note this contest will have a slightly different format than regular LMI tests.

Key differences from regular LMI tests:
• There is no IB (i.e. no Instructions Booklet). If you have any questions about any puzzle, please ask here.
• The PB (Puzzle Booklet) does not have any password.
• You can download the pdf and start solving. Login at the contest page to start submitting.
• There is no time limit. You can submit until the contest ends.
• There will be some optimizer puzzles. Other puzzles will be very hard (compared to regular LMI tests)
• Same scores will have same rank (i.e. early submissions do not count towards rank)

@ 2018-04-02 6:20 PM (#24622 - in reply to #24577) (#24622) Top

Puzlifouk



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Puzlifouk posted @ 2018-04-02 6:20 PM

Hello everybody,
I'm really impatient ... Can we know what time PB will be available online?
@ 2018-04-02 8:39 PM (#24624 - in reply to #24622) (#24624) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-04-02 8:39 PM

Puzzle Booklet


The PB should be available at 12 PM Moscow time (0900 GMT) on April 3rd.

@ 2018-04-03 2:32 PM (#24630 - in reply to #24577) (#24630) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-04-03 2:32 PM

The test has started and PB is available now.
@ 2018-04-03 7:00 PM (#24632 - in reply to #24577) (#24632) Top

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Para posted @ 2018-04-03 7:00 PM

For 10. Does minimum mean the amount of digits or the sum of their values?

For 11. Can you place a black triangle in a given cell with a triangle to turn it into a fully black cell?

Edited by Para 2018-04-03 7:06 PM
@ 2018-04-03 7:21 PM (#24633 - in reply to #24632) (#24633) Top

Riad Khanmagomedov



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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2018-04-03 7:21 PM

Para - 2018-04-03 7:00 PM

For 10. Does minimum mean the amount of digits or the sum of their values?

For 11. Can you place a black triangle in a given cell with a triangle to turn it into a fully black cell?

10. Minimize the sum by using fewer digits.

11. Yes.
@ 2018-04-03 7:36 PM (#24634 - in reply to #24633) (#24634) Top

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Para posted @ 2018-04-03 7:36 PM

Riad Khanmagomedov - 2018-04-03 7:21 PM

Para - 2018-04-03 7:00 PM

For 10. Does minimum mean the amount of digits or the sum of their values?

For 11. Can you place a black triangle in a given cell with a triangle to turn it into a fully black cell?

10. Minimize the sum by using fewer digits.

11. Yes.


Sorry, my bad for not clarifying well enough. I meant for when two solutions are tied for score. It says the minimum digits. Does this mean the solution with fewest digits used or the solution with the lowest sum of the digits used.
@ 2018-04-03 11:52 PM (#24638 - in reply to #24634) (#24638) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-04-03 11:52 PM

Puzzle 10 - Minor changes


There are few changes suggested by the author. An updated PB shall be uploaded on April 4th.

Number Range
Numbers from 1 to 5 can be used in coloured cells. Four sets of numbers from 1 to 5 are available. 6 and 7 cannot be used.

Ranking Criteria
- Minimum Value of (A+2B+3C) wilI be used to rank solutions.
- If two solutions have the same value of (A+2B+3C), then the solution using minimum number of digits in coloured cells is considered better.
- If two solutions have the same value of (A+2B+3C) AND use the same number of digits in coloured cells, then the solution which has minimum sum of digits in coloured cells is considered better.
- If two solutions have the same value of (A+2B+3C) AND use the same number of digits in coloured cells AND have the same sum of digits in coloured cells, they will have the same rank.

@ 2018-04-04 9:20 AM (#24641 - in reply to #24577) (#24641) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2018-04-04 9:20 AM

In 11 can the ball cross its own path?
@ 2018-04-04 12:11 PM (#24642 - in reply to #24577) (#24642) Top

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ghirsch posted @ 2018-04-04 12:11 PM

In 12, is it a requirement to use all pentominoes (i.e. should K always be 8)? If not, should the formula be 2L - K?

Otherwise we are penalized for using more pentominoes, and clearly the more pentominoes, the harder it is to have few black cells.
@ 2018-04-04 1:21 PM (#24643 - in reply to #24641) (#24643) Top

Riad Khanmagomedov



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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2018-04-04 1:21 PM

chaotic_iak - 2018-04-04 9:20 AM

In 11 can the ball cross its own path?

No.
@ 2018-04-04 1:31 PM (#24644 - in reply to #24642) (#24644) Top

Riad Khanmagomedov



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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2018-04-04 1:31 PM

ghirsch - 2018-04-04 12:11 PM

In 12, is it a requirement to use all pentominoes (i.e. should K always be 8)? If not, should the formula be 2L - K?

Otherwise we are penalized for using more pentominoes, and clearly the more pentominoes, the harder it is to have few black cells.

K is not necessarily equal to 8. Minimize K + 2L.
@ 2018-04-04 2:06 PM (#24646 - in reply to #24644) (#24646) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-04-04 2:06 PM

Updated PB


An updated Puzzle Booklet is now available.

@ 2018-04-05 7:31 AM (#24648 - in reply to #24644) (#24648) Top

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ghirsch posted @ 2018-04-05 7:31 AM

Riad Khanmagomedov - 2018-04-03 2:31 PM

ghirsch - 2018-04-04 12:11 PM

In 12, is it a requirement to use all pentominoes (i.e. should K always be 8)? If not, should the formula be 2L - K?

Otherwise we are penalized for using more pentominoes, and clearly the more pentominoes, the harder it is to have few black cells.

K is not necessarily equal to 8. Minimize K + 2L.


Wouldn't the optimal thing trivially be to just use no pentominoes? You can make a loop through all the cells if they are all white, so K and L would both be 0.

I feel like I must be missing something.

Edited by ghirsch 2018-04-05 7:32 AM
@ 2018-04-05 7:38 AM (#24649 - in reply to #24577) (#24649) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2018-04-05 7:38 AM

I think the missing thing is that the solution to 12 must be unique. It should be added to the PB.

Edited by chaotic_iak 2018-04-05 7:38 AM
@ 2018-04-05 7:49 AM (#24650 - in reply to #24577) (#24650) Top

chaotic_iak




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chaotic_iak posted @ 2018-04-05 7:49 AM

More questions:

3: For the purposes of lawns, each diagonal segment is of the same length as horizontal/vertical segments? Also, can you go diagonally through a white cell, without any lawn next to you?
4: Can names repeat in the grid?
8: For the cells without slashes, the clues point to the longer direction (the direction with more than 1 cell)? Is it possible to make it more similar to Kakuro, so each square is slashed?
@ 2018-04-05 9:56 AM (#24651 - in reply to #24643) (#24651) Top

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amitsowani posted @ 2018-04-05 9:56 AM

Riad Khanmagomedov - 2018-04-04 1:21 PM

chaotic_iak - 2018-04-04 9:20 AM

In 11 can the ball cross its own path?

No.


So this translates to - each half white and fully white cell needs to be visited exactly once?
@ 2018-04-05 1:30 PM (#24652 - in reply to #24649) (#24652) Top

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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2018-04-05 1:30 PM

chaotic_iak - 2018-04-05 7:38 AM

I think the missing thing is that the solution to 12 must be unique. It should be added to the PB.

The loop must be unique!
@ 2018-04-05 1:38 PM (#24653 - in reply to #24650) (#24653) Top

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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2018-04-05 1:38 PM

chaotic_iak - 2018-04-05 7:49 AM

More questions:

3: For the purposes of lawns, each diagonal segment is of the same length as horizontal/vertical segments? Also, can you go diagonally through a white cell, without any lawn next to you?
4: Can names repeat in the grid?
8: For the cells without slashes, the clues point to the longer direction (the direction with more than 1 cell)? Is it possible to make it more similar to Kakuro, so each square is slashed?

3. Yes.
4. No.
8. Yes, to the longer direction.
@ 2018-04-05 1:40 PM (#24654 - in reply to #24651) (#24654) Top

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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2018-04-05 1:40 PM

amitsowani - 2018-04-05 9:56 AM

Riad Khanmagomedov - 2018-04-04 1:21 PM

chaotic_iak - 2018-04-04 9:20 AM

In 11 can the ball cross its own path?

No.


So this translates to - each half white and fully white cell needs to be visited exactly once?

The white cell can be crossed twice. The path should not overlap with itself.
@ 2018-04-06 12:16 AM (#24656 - in reply to #24654) (#24656) Top

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rob posted @ 2018-04-06 12:16 AM

For the solution code to puzzle 3, would a diagonal of length 2 be counted as 2 (it's two unit diagonals) or as 0 (it's not a unit diagonal)?
@ 2018-04-06 3:57 AM (#24657 - in reply to #24577) (#24657) Top

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bskbri posted @ 2018-04-06 3:57 AM

11. Rollball variation.
- The ball goes through the centres of all white half cells and all fully white cells. So does it go through all current white cells, or can some of white cells be completely blackened by adding triangles?
- "The ball can roll out of the grid or stay inside the grid" Does this sentence refer to the end of the route?

Edited by bskbri 2018-04-06 3:58 AM
@ 2018-04-06 2:29 PM (#24659 - in reply to #24656) (#24659) Top

Riad Khanmagomedov



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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2018-04-06 2:29 PM

rob - 2018-04-06 12:16 AM

For the solution code to puzzle 3, would a diagonal of length 2 be counted as 2 (it's two unit diagonals) or as 0 (it's not a unit diagonal)?

The diagonal of length 2 is counted as 2.
@ 2018-04-06 2:36 PM (#24660 - in reply to #24657) (#24660) Top

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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2018-04-06 2:36 PM

bskbri - 2018-04-06 3:57 AM

11. Rollball variation.
- The ball goes through the centres of all white half cells and all fully white cells. So does it go through all current white cells, or can some of white cells be completely blackened by adding triangles?
- "The ball can roll out of the grid or stay inside the grid" Does this sentence refer to the end of the route?

1. First you need to blacken some cells. Then through all the remaining white cells and half cells draw the route.
2. Yes, the end of the route.
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