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Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier
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An LMI player
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-19 9:10 PM (#22549 - in reply to #22494) (#22549) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Lakes
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Kithyane
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-19 9:49 PM (#22550 - in reply to #22494) (#22550) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Heyawake
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


ghirsch
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-19 10:19 PM (#22551 - in reply to #22494) (#22551) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Heyawake
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Thanks for the fun puzzles Walker! I spent way too long on Heyawake 3, but once I found the break-in I was very impressed, and it ended up being the most memorable one from the test.
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-20 2:29 AM (#22552 - in reply to #22494) (#22552) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Almost Simple Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-20 3:45 AM (#22553 - in reply to #22494) (#22553) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Bosnian Road
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-20 4:24 AM (#22554 - in reply to #22494) (#22554) Top


 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Heyawake
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-20 10:56 AM (#22555 - in reply to #22494) (#22555) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Lakes Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Joo M.Y
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-20 11:14 AM (#22556 - in reply to #22494) (#22556) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Lakes
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-20 6:20 PM (#22557 - in reply to #22494) (#22557) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Lakes Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


greenhorn
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-20 6:22 PM (#22558 - in reply to #22494) (#22558) Top


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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Heyawake
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Great test, thank you Walker!
The biggest Heyawacky is the best one I've ever seen :)

Anyway, I should have done better, but my printer has decided to print only 4 out of 8 pages :(
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-21 3:53 AM (#22559 - in reply to #22494) (#22559) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Bosnian Snake
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Administrator
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-21 8:32 PM (#22561 - in reply to #22494) (#22561) Top


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Thanks to Walker for authoring this test. Also thanks to Bram for test solving.

Congratulations to Endo, Rob and Hideaki for finishing the test with a combined time of less than 90 minutes. Endo's score is the best ever in any SM or PR episode so far.

Congratulations to Rohan, Swaroop, Rajesh, Ashish and Kishore for taking the top India positions.

Heyawake 3 was attempted by the least number of participants, but it was the most accurate submission too (82/83 correct answers). It had a nice solving path/trick. Those who have not attempted it yet should try it at leisure.
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-22 9:43 PM (#22568 - in reply to #22494) (#22568) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Heyawake
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


There was a slight issue with the differing entry style for the solutions of the Bosnian road compared to the other loop puzzles. I spotted it beforehand but it could have been easier if they all had length of line or number of squares, rather than a mixture.
chaotic_iak
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-23 8:50 AM (#22571 - in reply to #22568) (#22571) Top



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Bosnian Road accepted length of lines, because I did it that way.
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-24 12:28 PM (#22578 - in reply to #22543) (#22578) Top


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rob - 2017-02-18 9:31 PM

Apart from the first one, Almost Simple Loop felt more like Outside Yajilin. I thought Bosnian Snake was a bit of an odd choice as a shading puzzle, particularly with Bosnian Road in the second part. Speaking of Bosnian Road, it would have been nice to avoid the differing notions of loop length for the answer code.

Assuming Lake Loop is original (I don't remember seeing it), that one might have been a fun instructionless puzzle, too, though I guess it not being a variant of another of the loop puzzles is an argument against.


The Almost Simple Loop feeling like Outside Yajilin was intended - we wanted to transition from the Simple Loop in last year's PR to something that is like another loop type, but still keeps the link to last year clear.

Last year, when we had a Snake round, some people noted that Snake is also a sub-genre of shading with a mixing in of path constraints. This year we have Pentomino instead of Snake as the specialized round, so it was good to have one snake somewhere and this seemed like a good spot :) Both variants are meant to take something from the other part, Lakes Loop was a step up from Lakes in the Shading side and Bosnian Road was a step up from Bosnian Snake in the Loop side.

Lakes Loop is indeed Nurikabe loop as Tawan pointed out. Since it doesn't have the 2x2 constraint we thought it was ok to name it Lakes loop here, especially to maintain the link to the Lakes type instead of making it feel like bringing in an entirely new type.

These weren't planned beforehand, but after some of Walker's initial submissions it just developed into these ideas.
WA1729
Subject: Re: Shading & Loops - 17th to 20th Feb 2017 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2017-02-28 1:30 AM (#22604 - in reply to #22494) (#22604) Top


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Puzzle Ramayan Shading and Loops has concluded. Congratulations to the top three finishers: Ken Endo, Robert Vollmert, and Hideaki Jo. Also, congrats to the top three finishers from India: Rohan Rao, Swaroop Guggilam, and Rajesh Kumar.
Overall, I am happy with how the test went. Thanks to everyone who participated!
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