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@ 2016-04-11 7:02 AM (#21482) (#21482) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2016-04-11 7:02 AM




@ 2016-04-15 5:06 AM (#21515 - in reply to #21482) (#21515) Top

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kiwijam posted @ 2016-04-15 5:06 AM

Yay! :D
@ 2016-04-17 12:02 PM (#21518 - in reply to #21482) (#21518) Top

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mikeylyk posted @ 2016-04-17 12:02 PM

always interesting and innovative, an annual highlight for me
@ 2016-04-19 9:16 AM (#21522 - in reply to #21482) (#21522) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2016-04-19 9:16 AM

Some notes about April Contest

Please note this contest will have a slightly different format than regular LMI tests.

Key differences from regular LMI tests:
• There is no IB (i.e. no Instructions Booklet). If you have any questions about any puzzle, please ask here.
• The PB (Puzzle Booklet) does not have any password
• You can download the pdf and start solving. Login at the contest page to start submitting.
• There is no time limit. You can submit until the contest ends.
• There will be some optimizer puzzles. Other puzzles will be very hard (compared to regular LMI tests)
• Same scores will have same rank (i.e. early submissions do not count towards rank)

@ 2016-04-20 12:53 AM (#21523 - in reply to #21482) (#21523) Top

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Plucky posted @ 2016-04-20 12:53 AM

Trying to access puzzles from http://www.diogen.h1.ru/cgi-bin/contest/start.pl brings up the error page http://err.h18.ru/error404.shtml in all cases it seems - could this be fixed please, or another website given where these puzzles/examples can be accessed?
@ 2016-04-20 3:13 AM (#21524 - in reply to #21482) (#21524) Top

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auroux posted @ 2016-04-20 3:13 AM

I don't think I understand the answer format for puzzle #1, or else I'm not sure I understand why my submission triggers the red message "pentomino letters, + or -" as if it were malformed.
Could an organizer check whether my submission for Pentobattle is well-formed? (answer key contents are valid and of the correct length to match expected answers?)
(I also happen to think that I have solved the puzzle correctly but understand that you'd rather not comment on that).
Thanks in advance!
Denis
@ 2016-04-20 3:57 AM (#21525 - in reply to #21482) (#21525) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2016-04-20 3:57 AM

April Contest has started

• Puzzle booklet (without password) is available.
• This thread will remain open (unrestricted) throughout the contest - which will allow players to ask questions about the puzzles.
• The red warnings for optimizer puzzles are not always correct. You can ignore them, if you are fairly sure that your answer keys are in correct format;
• Potential Score page - http://logicmastersindia.com/2016/04Contest/score.asp

@ 2016-04-20 5:45 AM (#21526 - in reply to #21482) (#21526) Top

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Plucky posted @ 2016-04-20 5:45 AM

For Trid-Fir, it says "Digits in one line should be different." - does this mean only horizontal lines within each triangle, or also diagonal lines within each triangle?
@ 2016-04-20 5:54 AM (#21527 - in reply to #21524) (#21527) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2016-04-20 5:54 AM

auroux - 2016-04-20 3:13 AM

I don't think I understand the answer format for puzzle #1, or else I'm not sure I understand why my submission triggers the red message "pentomino letters, + or -" as if it were malformed.
Could an organizer check whether my submission for Pentobattle is well-formed? (answer key contents are valid and of the correct length to match expected answers?)
(I also happen to think that I have solved the puzzle correctly but understand that you'd rather not comment on that).
Thanks in advance!
Denis

The red warnings are not correct for this puzzle. Will have them fixed.
@ 2016-04-20 5:59 AM (#21528 - in reply to #21526) (#21528) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2016-04-20 5:59 AM

Plucky - 2016-04-20 5:45 AM

For Trid-Fir, it says "Digits in one line should be different." - does this mean only horizontal lines within each triangle, or also diagonal lines within each triangle?
Each diagonal too, even if the length of some of the diagonals could be less than "N"
See section C of Puzzle Jackpot contest for a classic Trid puzzle
@ 2016-04-20 8:22 AM (#21529 - in reply to #21482) (#21529) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2016-04-20 8:22 AM

Pentobattle: Just to warn, these use unusual letters (J and S instead of N and Z).
Mirrored Sudokus: Can a number from a grid on the left be mirrored twice to a grid on the right with the same orientation?
@ 2016-04-20 9:29 AM (#21530 - in reply to #21529) (#21530) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2016-04-20 9:29 AM

chaotic_iak - 2016-04-20 8:22 AM

Pentobattle: Just to warn, these use unusual letters (J and S instead of N and Z).
We will accept any of the conventions
@ 2016-04-20 9:29 AM (#21531 - in reply to #21527) (#21531) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2016-04-20 9:29 AM

debmohanty - 2016-04-20 5:54 AM

auroux - 2016-04-20 3:13 AM

I don't think I understand the answer format for puzzle #1, or else I'm not sure I understand why my submission triggers the red message "pentomino letters, + or -" as if it were malformed.
Could an organizer check whether my submission for Pentobattle is well-formed? (answer key contents are valid and of the correct length to match expected answers?)
(I also happen to think that I have solved the puzzle correctly but understand that you'd rather not comment on that).
Thanks in advance!
Denis

The red warnings are not correct for this puzzle. Will have them fixed.

Fixed.
@ 2016-04-20 10:12 AM (#21532 - in reply to #21482) (#21532) Top

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deu posted @ 2016-04-20 10:12 AM

In Puzzle 9, red warning for the first box still remains even after entering a positive integer.
@ 2016-04-20 11:32 AM (#21533 - in reply to #21532) (#21533) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2016-04-20 11:32 AM

deu - 2016-04-20 10:12 AM

In Puzzle 9, red warning for the first box still remains even after entering a positive integer.
Fixed.
@ 2016-04-20 12:48 PM (#21534 - in reply to #21482) (#21534) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2016-04-20 12:48 PM

In The Citadels: Is it allowed to use 6D twice (because it's split into two)?
Borderless Sextet: "so that each yellow cell was occupied by a white cell of the grid. Should appear the connected yellow region (possibly only with black cells inside)." I can't understand this portion.
@ 2016-04-20 1:35 PM (#21535 - in reply to #21534) (#21535) Top

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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2016-04-20 1:35 PM

chaotic_iak - 2016-04-20 12:48 PM

In The Citadels: Is it allowed to use 6D twice (because it's split into two)?
Borderless Sextet: "so that each yellow cell was occupied by a white cell of the grid. Should appear the connected yellow region (possibly only with black cells inside)." I can't understand this portion.

IN THE CITADEL: 6D can be used only once.
BORDERLESS SEXTET: Inside the yellow area may be black cells, but not white cells.
@ 2016-04-20 2:06 PM (#21536 - in reply to #21482) (#21536) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2016-04-20 2:06 PM

Borderless Sextet:
- Must all cells in the loop region be used in the loop? Is the loop's length 16? By "touching", does it mean Snake-like touching (being on adjacent cells while not being consecutive cells in the loop) or Masyu-like touching (using the same cell twice)?
- Do the diagonal clues for packing count multiple cells of the same region only once or as many times as the cells? (That is, do they add up regions' numbers or cells'?)
@ 2016-04-20 2:35 PM (#21537 - in reply to #21536) (#21537) Top

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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2016-04-20 2:35 PM

chaotic_iak - 2016-04-20 2:06 PM

Borderless Sextet:
- Must all cells in the loop region be used in the loop? Is the loop's length 16? By "touching", does it mean Snake-like touching (being on adjacent cells while not being consecutive cells in the loop) or Masyu-like touching (using the same cell twice)?
- Do the diagonal clues for packing count multiple cells of the same region only once or as many times as the cells? (That is, do they add up regions' numbers or cells'?)

1. The loop region consists of 16 cells, the length of the loop 16. Everything else you determine by solving a puzzle.
2. The sum of the numbers in the yellow cells are indicated along the two diagonals. For example, if along the diagonal 6 yellow cells, that indicated the sum of the numbers in this 6 cells.
@ 2016-04-20 5:53 PM (#21538 - in reply to #21482) (#21538) Top

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Para posted @ 2016-04-20 5:53 PM

In "In the Citadel", I assume there is only a restriction on using stairs once and not on the paths between the stairs?
@ 2016-04-20 6:19 PM (#21539 - in reply to #21527) (#21539) Top

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forcolin posted @ 2016-04-20 6:19 PM

debmohanty - 2016-04-20 5:54 AM

auroux - 2016-04-20 3:13 AM

I don't think I understand the answer format for puzzle #1, or else I'm not sure I understand why my submission triggers the red message "pentomino letters, + or -" as if it were malformed.
Could an organizer check whether my submission for Pentobattle is well-formed? (answer key contents are valid and of the correct length to match expected answers?)
(I also happen to think that I have solved the puzzle correctly but understand that you'd rather not comment on that).
Thanks in advance!
Denis

The red warnings are not correct for this puzzle. Will have them fixed.

I had the same problem as Denis. will wait to see when it's fixed
@ 2016-04-20 7:13 PM (#21540 - in reply to #21538) (#21540) Top

Riad Khanmagomedov



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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2016-04-20 7:13 PM

Para - 2016-04-20 5:53 PM

In "In the Citadel", I assume there is only a restriction on using stairs once and not on the paths between the stairs?

Yes, there is only a restriction on using stairs once. This is evident from the example in the Answer format.
@ 2016-04-20 8:27 PM (#21541 - in reply to #21482) (#21541) Top

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forcolin posted @ 2016-04-20 8:27 PM

a question about 4.BRICKS.
the brick fragment which must be filled with the length of the brick will always occur at one of the ends of the brick or it can occur also in the middle?
@ 2016-04-21 5:34 AM (#21542 - in reply to #21482) (#21542) Top

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kiwijam posted @ 2016-04-21 5:34 AM

"Borderless Sextet" questions:

- Is every cell of the grid in one of the 6 regions? Or can there be cells which are not used?
- Packing Figures are only on white cells, Battleships only on blue cells, the other 4 regions can be white or blue. Correct?
- The Battleships region must include empty cells between ships, but can other regions include empty cells also? e.g. can the Snake region be larger than 19 cells, or can the Scrabble region include cells without letters?
I think in the other three regions, every cell must be part of a loop/tetromino/yellow figure?
@ 2016-04-21 10:05 AM (#21543 - in reply to #21482) (#21543) Top

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Para posted @ 2016-04-21 10:05 AM

In Opti Pentobattle, if I input the wrong K+1.5N because I didn't count the number of solutions correctly, will my solution be counted as wrong or will it count as the correct K+1.5N?
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