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amitsowani
Subject: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-16 11:13 PM (#11781) (#11781) Top



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We will be organizing the Indian Sudoku Championship online on 11th August 2013. (not to be confused with any other offline event that might be conducted in a similar time-frame)

The winner of this event will be regarded as the national champion as it is a fair event which is open to all participants across the country.

Participants who are among the top few in this championships will be invited to participate in the World Sudoku Championship in an individual capacity.

Unfortunately we are not in a position to bear the participation expenses for the winners who are selected through this event. However I hope that we will see a large number of participants, each vying for the pride of being called the national champion.

We will post additional details regarding the event in coming days.


rajeshk
Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-17 9:00 AM (#11783 - in reply to #11781) (#11783) Top


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Very good decision by LMI to conduct ISC. This will give fair chance to everyone to compete with the best.
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Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-17 11:42 AM (#11785 - in reply to #11781) (#11785) Top





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Excellent initiative, thanks. I am curious what 'individual capacity' means exactly. Does it mean that they will not be a part of the official Team India?

Edited by lenson 2013-07-17 11:47 AM
amitsowani
Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-17 11:52 AM (#11786 - in reply to #11785) (#11786) Top



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lenson - 2013-07-17 11:42 AM

Excellent initiative, thanks. I am curious what 'individual capacity' means exactly. Does it mean that they will not be a part of the official Team India?


Yes, we can work out the formation of B -teams, if we have enough participants
dp_94
Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-17 1:05 PM (#11787 - in reply to #11781) (#11787) Top




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is the event will be online as in isc 2011
dp_94
Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-17 1:06 PM (#11788 - in reply to #11781) (#11788) Top




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is the event will be online
rvarun
Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-17 1:16 PM (#11789 - in reply to #11788) (#11789) Top




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dp_94 - 2013-07-17 1:06 PM

is the event will be online


Hi

There are two events this time.

1. Times Sudoku Championship. This is an offline event held in four cities. The Team to represent India will be selected from this event with sponsorship from ToI.

2. Indian Sudoku Championship. This is an online event on August 10 and is open to all. This is to select the official Indian Sudoku Champion.

Edited by rvarun 2013-07-17 1:18 PM
devarajand
Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-17 2:00 PM (#11790 - in reply to #11781) (#11790) Top




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Good. This will give a fair chance to every one all over India. Conduct online solvable event (No printing and paper solving) with exact 2 or 2.5hr duration. Ensure everyone solve on terminal only.
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Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-17 2:02 PM (#11791 - in reply to #11789) (#11791) Top



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good idea.
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Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-17 2:40 PM (#11792 - in reply to #11791) (#11792) Top




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Rest assured - all of sudoku enthusiasts will be up for this one - LMI is the official one for us ;-)
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Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-17 2:48 PM (#11793 - in reply to #11790) (#11793) Top


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devarajand - 2013-07-17 2:00 PM

Good. This will give a fair chance to every one all over India. Conduct online solvable event (No printing and paper solving) with exact 2 or 2.5hr duration. Ensure everyone solve on terminal only.


Thats neither easy to do, nor fair. I'm sure the organizers will try to make it online-accessible, but for one thing, "no printing and paper solving" is unfair on those who have a printer and haven't got a great net connection, and also those who have mouse/keyboard related issues. The most ideal format will always be to have both paper solving as well as online solving enabled.

For another, the organizers are now managing 2 events (TSC and ISC) on the back of another event (IPC), so in general, I'd suggest to value the effort put in rather than nitpicking over the little things.
devarajand
Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-17 6:09 PM (#11797 - in reply to #11781) (#11797) Top




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If it paper solvable results will not be fair. Can take a few copies and two or three can solve each one and combine submit the answers. Regarding net connection today almost 80% areas are covered by reasonable network, so this wont be an issue. As LMI has already developed required grids, I presume no difficulties to enable only online solving mode which will be very fair.
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Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-17 6:16 PM (#11798 - in reply to #11797) (#11798) Top


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devarajand - 2013-07-17 6:09 PM

If it paper solvable results will not be fair. Can take a few copies and two or three can solve each one and combine submit the answers. Regarding net connection today almost 80% areas are covered by reasonable network, so this wont be an issue. As LMI has already developed required grids, I presume no difficulties to enable only online solving mode which will be very fair.


Online solving is totally different in comparism with paper solving. Online solver will be in disadvantage at WSC and probably, the goal of ISC is to choose the best participants for WSC.
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Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-17 6:37 PM (#11799 - in reply to #11797) (#11799) Top





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devarajand - 2013-07-17 6:09 PM
If it paper solvable results will not be fair. Can take a few copies and two or three can solve each one and combine submit the answers. Regarding net connection today almost 80% areas are covered by reasonable network, so this wont be an issue. As LMI has already developed required grids, I presume no difficulties to enable only online solving mode which will be very fair.

Hi,
With much more bigger things going on and as stated by Prasanna do not nitpick/debate on method of solving. LMI is very much experienced in these things and they exactly know what they are doing.
Even if someone cheats LMI can find that, they have their own methods.
So prepare well for the competition and give your best

Regards,
Ravi
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-17 8:26 PM (#11800 - in reply to #11797) (#11800) Top


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devarajand - 2013-07-17 6:09 PM

If it paper solvable results will not be fair. Can take a few copies and two or three can solve each one and combine submit the answers. Regarding net connection today almost 80% areas are covered by reasonable network, so this wont be an issue. As LMI has already developed required grids, I presume no difficulties to enable only online solving mode which will be very fair.


And online solving can't have two people simultaneously opening the interface, and sending answers simultaneously? There's always ways to try to cheat the system, if you think like that. But you can be rest assured (as mentioned above) that any suspicious results will be checked by LMI, just as they are in any other tests (I don't know if you've ever noticed the "D" that appears next to some participants in usual LMI contests). If something's really suspicious, there are ways to find it out, and you need to trust the organizers to do so, and make sure you are enjoying the competition honestly from your side.

Your arguments are inspired with a slightly different goal to holding a fair contest, I feel, and so your arguments don't really take in everyone's opinion. The fact that you dismissed the net connection factor by saying "80%" and not worrying about the other 20 shows that. Also, think about whether "having a net connection" equates to "having a stable net connection that'll last over 2 hours". You didn't even address the other issues I put forth (mouse/keyboard issues). There's a panel of organizers here to judge any suspicious results. Lets stop thinking about that, and prioritize having the test accessible to 100% instead of 80%.

Also, what do you mean by "As LMI has already developed required grids"? I don't think they've released the progress of the event planning anywhere. If you mean they've developed required grids in the past for the interface to work, how do you know that all the variants for ISC 2013 will be interface-friendly? As someone who has been an author for other country National Championships, I think you're greatly underestimating the effort and planning put in to organize these Championships in general.
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Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-17 10:02 PM (#11803 - in reply to #11781) (#11803) Top




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also in some places there may be sudden and short power cuts which may not affect paper solving as much as online solving which is also a factor
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Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-18 9:18 AM (#11805 - in reply to #11781) (#11805) Top




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Arranging an online round and giving everyone a chance to participate is a very good initiative by LMI.
srag
Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-23 9:49 PM (#11875 - in reply to #11781) (#11875) Top




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one question this indian sudoku contest can be taken offline ah?
if so how do we take the test offline and how to sublit our answers?
please let me know
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Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-23 11:47 PM (#11877 - in reply to #11781) (#11877) Top




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I'm a new user in this website. Could anyone let me know how to register 4 this event?? Where is the link to register, stuff like that??
amitsowani
Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-23 11:50 PM (#11878 - in reply to #11877) (#11878) Top



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The link will be posted soon. You do not need to register separately for the event.
Your LMI registration is sufficient to participate in the event.
prasanna16391
Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-24 11:24 AM (#11885 - in reply to #11875) (#11885) Top


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srag - 2013-07-23 9:49 PM

one question this indian sudoku contest can be taken offline ah?
if so how do we take the test offline and how to sublit our answers?
please let me know


Check http://logicmastersindia.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=381 for how to submit answers and how to take the test.
srag
Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-27 12:05 PM (#11923 - in reply to #11781) (#11923) Top




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Ya thanx i checked the website one thing i not able to understand taking printout solving in paper is ok but then after solving in paper how to i submit it.you told no mail should be sent then how do i submit it.Please say it clearly.
rvarun
Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-27 12:37 PM (#11924 - in reply to #11923) (#11924) Top




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srag - 2013-07-27 12:05 PM

Ya thanx i checked the website one thing i not able to understand taking printout solving in paper is ok but then after solving in paper how to i submit it.you told no mail should be sent then how do i submit it.Please say it clearly.


Hi

There are two ways of solving the sudokus in Indian Sudoku Championship 2013.

1. Online mode - You will have a Flash interface with the grids where you can solve the sudoku online and click submit button, which is present in the bottom of each sudoku. So you can click the submit button immediately after you finish each sudoku.

2. Offline mode - You need to take printout of the Puzzle booklet. Solve it offline and there will be marked rowa/columns in each sudoku. (Either two rows/two columns/one row and one column). Enter the digits of the marked rows/columns in the Text box provided for each sudoku in the Competition page. Then press Submit button present in top of the Competion page just above the text boxes.

All these details are explained in the link present in Prasanna's previous post. Please go through the link once more and also navigate the site and forum. You will get more details.
srag
Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-28 1:39 PM (#11949 - in reply to #11781) (#11949) Top




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K thanx i read it i understood clearly.Bt i dont have printer i need to go outside take printout so before the test begins i will be able to download and take printout?
rvarun
Subject: Re: Indian Sudoku Championship 2013 @ 2013-07-28 1:54 PM (#11950 - in reply to #11949) (#11950) Top




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srag - 2013-07-28 1:39 PM

K thanx i read it i understood clearly.Bt i dont have printer i need to go outside take printout so before the test begins i will be able to download and take printout?


No. You cannot do it. You will be able to open the Password protected booklet once you click "Start the Test" button. The Timer will start once you click the button. You will be wasting time if you go out and take printout. It will be better if you solve in Online mode.
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