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MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier
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An LMI player
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-03 9:28 PM (#26955 - in reply to #26937) (#26955) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Rassi Silai
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


anurag
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-03 10:44 PM (#26956 - in reply to #26937) (#26956) Top




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Quads 1 and 3 had some nice deductions. Nice puzzles. I enjoyed Rassi salai in addition to Quads.
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-03 11:14 PM (#26957 - in reply to #26956) (#26957) Top


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anurag - 2019-05-03 10:44 PM

Quads 1 and 3 had some nice deductions. Nice puzzles. I enjoyed Rassi salai in addition to Quads.


Thank you for your valuable feedback.
mstang
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-04 12:58 AM (#26958 - in reply to #26937) (#26958) Top





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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Spiral Galaxies
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I thought that was very tough for a PR round! Nonetheless, nice puzzles....

Specific comments: Rassi Silai was fun, although I rarely had to draw the actual ropes (I assume that's not unintended) and I could often reason using uniqueness of the solution (especially in #3). Consecutive quads was also fun, though I broke #5 too many times. I really liked the 9-point Araf, and the Five Cells were easy and nice. My favorite part was discovering the huge galaxies!

Edited by mstang 2019-05-04 1:03 AM
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-04 3:01 AM (#26959 - in reply to #26958) (#26959) Top


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mstang - 2019-05-04 12:58 AM

I thought that was very tough for a PR round! Nonetheless, nice puzzles....

Specific comments: Rassi Silai was fun, although I rarely had to draw the actual ropes (I assume that's not unintended) and I could often reason using uniqueness of the solution (especially in #3). Consecutive quads was also fun, though I broke #5 too many times. I really liked the 9-point Araf, and the Five Cells were easy and nice. My favorite part was discovering the huge galaxies!


I am glad you enjoyed. Thanks for the feedback.
Yes, it is definitely on the harder side of PR. But I believe it's hard because of new variants and not the difficulty of the puzzles itself. Of course, some of the puzzles itself are hard but overall due to new variants, it became harder than expected. More detailed review about the difficulty, types, and themes will be provided after the contest ends.
mstang
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-04 4:01 AM (#26960 - in reply to #26937) (#26960) Top





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Thanks, Swaroop! I look forward to reading through it, and thanks for the test.
TiiT
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-04 6:38 PM (#26961 - in reply to #26937) (#26961) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Rassi Silai
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


A bit too hard and too much guessing for me. First double spiral galaxies is simply impossible to solve. I thought I am able to finish the set, but there I stayed.
Luckily when submitting there was only one error and I was able to fix this. During solving I thought that I have a risk at least in 10 puzzles to have a mistake - good that it didn't happen :)
anurag
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-05 10:11 AM (#26963 - in reply to #26959) (#26963) Top




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The second Quad was hard, unlike the first and third, though it was logically solvable. Some puzzles were really hard, as some others here thought. I hope the ropes come back next year in the regions round. Those were cute constructions.
An LMI player
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-05 5:03 PM (#26964 - in reply to #26937) (#26964) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Araf
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Grizix
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-05 6:08 PM (#26965 - in reply to #26937) (#26965) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Outside Regional Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too many pages / too large grids


An LMI player
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-06 8:54 AM (#26966 - in reply to #26937) (#26966) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Araf
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


malikasikka
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-06 3:25 PM (#26967 - in reply to #26937) (#26967) Top




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Can I have the password forMIL and Regions PR 2018 puzzle booklet?
kiwijam
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-06 3:40 PM (#26968 - in reply to #26937) (#26968) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Five Cells
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Administrator
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-06 4:24 PM (#26969 - in reply to #26967) (#26969) Top


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malikasikka - 2019-05-06 3:25 PM

Can I have the password forMIL and Regions PR 2018 puzzle booklet?

Can you go to the test page? http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201803/

The password should be available there now.
Elyot
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-07 3:17 AM (#26971 - in reply to #26937) (#26971) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Outside Regional Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


If I was trying really hard to compete, I wouldn't be a fan of having half the test consist of puzzles where the only past appearance was WPC 2017 which I didn't go to.

Basically I would be forced to buy the WPC 2017 puzzle book to get a fair chance to practice.

But the puzzles themselves were very enjoyable.
tamz29
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-07 5:33 AM (#26972 - in reply to #26937) (#26972) Top




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Thanks for the puzzles! I had fun.
When I had 30 minutes left for 3 spiral galaxies I thought of finishing the test. Alas, it didn't work out :(
pranavmanu
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-07 3:58 PM (#26973 - in reply to #26937) (#26973) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Regional Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Quite a hard test in my opinion.Found the Arafs and regional loops to be a hard grind.I am looking forward to solving the left out ones later.
Favourites are the Consecutive quads #6,Regional loop #8,and the Rassi Silai #3
Thanks Ashish and Swaroop :).
kishy72
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-07 4:10 PM (#26974 - in reply to #26973) (#26974) Top




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Can PR please be extended by a day or 2?.Unable to take the test due to a bout of illness
Administrator
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-07 5:02 PM (#26975 - in reply to #26974) (#26975) Top


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kishy72 - 2019-05-07 4:10 PM

Can PR please be extended by a day or 2?.Unable to take the test due to a bout of illness
We will extend it by 24 hours. Further extension may not be possible.
Administrator
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-07 5:04 PM (#26976 - in reply to #26937) (#26976) Top


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Extension


The Contest is extended by 24 hours and can be taken till Wednesday (8th May) 2359 hrs IST.

ABcDexter
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-07 7:54 PM (#26977 - in reply to #26937) (#26977) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Rassi Silai
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


kishy72
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-08 5:21 PM (#26978 - in reply to #26937) (#26978) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Araf
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Nice puzzles but on the harder side of PR.I enjoyed whatever I solved and my favourites are Araf(9) and Spiral Galaxy(9).Having never solved Regional loop and five cell puzzles, I had no clue how to start those and it wasn't surprising when I was left with those and 2 DSG puzzles in which I spent quite some time on the 6 pointer unsucessfully.

Really enjoyable contest Swaroop and Ashish.Thanks a lot to admin for extension.
harmeet
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-09 8:36 AM (#26979 - in reply to #26937) (#26979) Top


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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Spiral Galaxies
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-09 9:21 AM (#26980 - in reply to #26937) (#26980) Top


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Congratulations to Endo Ken, Nikola Zivanovic and Kota Morinishi for taking the top three places.

Amongst Indian participants, Congratulations to Prasanna Seshadri, Rohan Rao and Amit Sowani for taking the top 3 places.

Of the 167 participants, 30 were from India, 28 from Japan and 23 from USA. Martin Kollar (Slovakia) was the first to start the test while Abhishek Chaudhary (India) was the last person to start the test. Unfortunately, both did not submit any answers. 18 participants completed the set within the allotted time. The median score of the test was 52.

Thanks Swaroop Guggilam and Ashish Kumar for the puzzles!

Thanks to the participants who have shared feedback so far. Participants may share feedback on the results page and rate the puzzles on the contest page.
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-09 10:11 AM (#26981 - in reply to #26937) (#26981) Top


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Congratulations to top3 overall and Indians.
Thank you for all your valuable feedback. I do recognize that it was hard test, but I hope you all enjoyed it. I sincerely request everyone, especially new comers, if you are facing any difficulty in any of the puzzles, please do post here, we will be happy to help you out.
Sorry, for the short post. I will post a detailed review on the selection of types, themes of the puzzles created and overall expectations by this Sunday.
Thank you LMI for giving us the opportunity to author this round. Special thanks to rakesh for continuous support and valuable inputs over the puzzles.
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