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Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier
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Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-10 5:55 PM (#26424 - in reply to #26417) (#26424) Top


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Instruction Booklet


The Instruction Booklet is now available here: http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/dl.asp?attachmentid=753

Administrator
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-10 7:55 PM (#26425 - in reply to #26424) (#26425) Top


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Outside Parity - Note


Please note that the bold line is NOT a stopper for the outside clue. Actually, the clue has no relation with the bold line.

For example, in the 6x6 sudoku if the outside clue is 2, the parity MUST change in the 3rd cell. Similarly if the clue is 3 for a 9x9 sudoku, the parity MUST change in the 4th cell.

SP1
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-10 9:37 PM (#26426 - in reply to #26417) (#26426) Top




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Location: Japan
I think the example of Outside Parity Sudoku 1 has multiple solutions...
The placement of even numbers is not determined.
Administrator
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-10 9:48 PM (#26427 - in reply to #26426) (#26427) Top


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Location: India
SP1 - 2019-01-10 9:37 PM

I think the example of Outside Parity Sudoku 1 has multiple solutions...
The placement of even numbers is not determined.
Thanks. This will be corrected in the final version of IB.
Administrator
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-11 10:26 AM (#26428 - in reply to #26427) (#26428) Top


200050010020
Location: India

Updated Instruction Booklet


The final Instruction Booklet is now available here: http://logicmastersindia.com/SM/201901/

Changes:
1. Points table added
2. Note added for Outside Parity
3. Outside Parity 6x6 corrected

Administrator
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-11 11:24 AM (#26429 - in reply to #26428) (#26429) Top


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Location: India

Contest Start Time


The test will start at 1:05 PM IST.

Administrator
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-11 1:06 PM (#26430 - in reply to #26429) (#26430) Top


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Location: India
The test has now started.
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-11 1:15 PM (#26431 - in reply to #26417) (#26431) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Coded Pairs Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


kousek-nebe
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-11 6:34 PM (#26432 - in reply to #26417) (#26432) Top




Posts: 18

Location: Czech Republic
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Outside Parity Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-12 1:23 AM (#26433 - in reply to #26417) (#26433) Top


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Location: india
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Outside Parity Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Did not went well as planned.
I felt high pointers were really hard or may be I am missing the trick. I loved the logic of Outside Parity 9x9, but couldn't crack the coded pairs and of course did not even get chance to attempt Unordered Pairs.
Overall nice set of puzzles.
Thanks Amit and Hemant.
mstang
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-12 2:12 AM (#26434 - in reply to #26417) (#26434) Top




Posts: 43
2020
Location: USA
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Irregular Frame Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-12 2:19 AM (#26435 - in reply to #26417) (#26435) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Unordered Distances Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


harmeet
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-12 12:30 PM (#26437 - in reply to #26417) (#26437) Top


Converse and Twisted Classics Variations (SM 19) Author

Posts: 54
2020
Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Irregular Frame Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


TiiT
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-12 2:53 PM (#26438 - in reply to #26417) (#26438) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Fortress Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


margareta456
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-12 3:26 PM (#26439 - in reply to #26417) (#26439) Top




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Location: Poland
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Irregular Frame Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


detuned
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-12 9:58 PM (#26440 - in reply to #26417) (#26440) Top




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Location: United Kingdom
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Classic Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


Krubi
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-12 11:20 PM (#26441 - in reply to #26417) (#26441) Top




Posts: 2

Location: Estonia
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Outside Parity Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-13 1:21 AM (#26442 - in reply to #26417) (#26442) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Coded Pairs Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


aashay
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-13 12:31 PM (#26443 - in reply to #26417) (#26443) Top




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Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Outside Parity Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Really enjoyed solving this set. All the sudokus had nice, logical solving paths which made the test quite enjoyable. The variants were not the usual ones, which made the experience better!

Thanks Amit and Hemant for the puzzles!
kishy72
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-13 1:41 PM (#26444 - in reply to #26417) (#26444) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Fortress Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


A hard and tough episode definitely.Just barely managed to scrape through the test and in the end glad to have completed.I had a messy solve in Coded pairs(12) and it took the longest time for me(15:23) which is too much considering that I finished the Fortress(11) in 5:23 and Outside Parity(15) in 6:51 ! Even the CP(3) sharply pricked me .I suffered the most in Unordered Distances and it went horrendously bad .I had to guess both Distances and the 5 pointer ,I was completely blind and had no idea how to start.Very fortunately both my guesses in that turned out right.

I did enjoy the contest but I would have preferred to finish it more cleanly than how I did in the contest.I plan to solve both coded pairs and distances later very cleanly and get that sense of satisfaction.

My favourite sudokus are Fortress (11) followed by outside parity (15).

Thanks Hemant and Amit for a tough challenge which I relished very much.Puzzle quality was top notch.Good luck for Odd even and Substitution :) .
vopani
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-13 5:59 PM (#26445 - in reply to #26417) (#26445) Top


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Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Unordered Distances Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Very nice set of sudokus. Good quality but slightly on the harder side.

Favourite sudokus: UnorderedDistances-2, CodedPairs-1, IrregularFrame-2, CodedPairs-2 and UnorderedDistances-1

Thanks Hemant and Amit!
pranavmanu
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-13 8:10 PM (#26446 - in reply to #26417) (#26446) Top




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Location: india
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Unordered Distances Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Brilliant test.Greatly enjoyed.
Solved really smoothly except for the 5 pointer Unordered distances,which was an excellent sudoku and took up time.
Favourites were both the Unordered distances,the 11 pointer Irregular frame,and the Fortress.
Cant ask for more,thoroughly enjoyable set.
Thanks a lot to Hemant and Amit for the excellent sudokus.
Sedho
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-13 8:36 PM (#26447 - in reply to #26417) (#26447) Top




Posts: 4

Location: Philippines
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Coded Pairs Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


First off, I'm an amateur solver (and not a composer at all), so my comments probably shouldn't carry as much weight as those of the more experienced players who are fully aware of the effort that goes into this. But as this is the first time I've actually come close to completing a round (and it may very well be the last), I wanted to leave a comment.

I had a lot of fun doing the Irregular Frame - 2 (11 pts) and the Coded Pairs -2 (12 pts) logically, although each cost me around 14 minutes.

Outside Parity - 2 (15 pts) was enjoyable too, even if my solving online (rather than printing) made it a bit difficult for me to remember which cells I knew to contain odd numbers or even numbers.

I had no idea how to start the Unordered Distances - 1 (5 pts) and spent 5:51 guessing my way through it. In contrast, I solved the Unordered Distances - 2 (12 pts), logically if I remember correctly, in around 6:37, which suddenly feels short when compared to the 5:51 for the 6x6. Of course, I may have just been blind on the 6x6 and lucky on the 9x9.

Overall, this was really fun, and I look forward to any more contests by these authors.
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-13 10:10 PM (#26448 - in reply to #26417) (#26448) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Classic Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


priyambhushan
Subject: Re: Outside and Neighbours - 11th to 15th Jan - Sudoku Mahabharat & ISC Qualifier @ 2019-01-13 11:07 PM (#26449 - in reply to #26417) (#26449) Top




Posts: 8

Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Irregular Frame Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


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