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peluri
Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-28 4:40 PM (#20138 - in reply to #19949) (#20138) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Fillomino
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? I have a different complaint


The grid lines in Fillomino, Area Division and Shikaku were missing from my print-outs. Yn Yang and Spiral galaxies were OK. Very strange.

Edited by peluri 2015-11-28 4:49 PM
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-28 5:16 PM (#20139 - in reply to #20138) (#20139) Top



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peluri - 2015-11-28 4:40 PM

The grid lines in Fillomino, Area Division and Shikaku were missing from my print-outs. Yn Yang and Spiral galaxies were OK. Very strange.

How did you open the pdf file and print?
Directly from browser (like Chrome)?
OR
Saved the pdf file on your laptop/desktop and then open/print?
rob
Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-28 5:25 PM (#20140 - in reply to #19949) (#20140) Top


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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Spiral Galaxies
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


That was fun, thank you! Most of this was just quickly drawing in the solution. I guessed on the large Yin Yang, and the 4/5 galaxies was an "exploratory" solve.

I could see that one being quite frustrating for players who breeze through everything and then get stuck...

Regarding the puzzle quality: I felt that for a lot of the types, the puzzles didn't really cover the available logic as well as on previous instances, but that may just be a consequence of the puzzles being so easy that they didn't all force a solving path.
kishy72
Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-28 5:33 PM (#20141 - in reply to #20138) (#20141) Top




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peluri - 2015-11-28 4:40 PM

The grid lines in Fillomino, Area Division and Shikaku were missing from my print-outs. Yn Yang and Spiral galaxies were OK. Very strange.


I faced the exact same problem when I tried to print it directly which made me waste about 5 mins before I could solve the first Yin Yang.The problem can be avoided if you save it as a pdf file and then print it out .Atleast,this was the remedy in my case.
debmohanty
Subject: RE: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-28 5:41 PM (#20142 - in reply to #19949) (#20142) Top



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@peluri, It seems you have faced this kind problems earlier ( #post 16955 ) also.
I strongly feel the resolution is same as what kishy72 mentions. You should first save the file on your laptop/desktop, then double click to open and print from there.

The inbuilt browser in Google chrome is known to mess up pdf rendering among other things, you will find several links on how to disable the pdf viewer in chrome.
wgryciuk
Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-28 5:44 PM (#20143 - in reply to #19949) (#20143) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Fillomino
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


kishy72
Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-28 5:50 PM (#20144 - in reply to #20136) (#20144) Top




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rakesh_rai - 2015-11-28 8:52 AM

Thanks Swaroop. Yes. The Spiral Galaxies were a bit trickier compared to the rest of the puzzles. Good to see you completed the set, which I expected as well.



Had any expectations or predictions going for me ? :)


debmohanty - 2015-11-28 3:23 PM

Very nicely balanced round, after the hard Numbers round and very hard Evergreens.


Indeed.This was exactly my first afterthought upon completion of the test.Seldom do I choose "Just Right" in the "What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?" category.Mostly,my choice would be too many hard puzzles .Not that I have anything in particular against the test but just that the puzzles would be too hard, subjectively speaking.But this test was an exception.It ideally reflected the 50% easy, 40% medium, 10% hard concept .In my opinion, the Spiral Gal. accounted for the hard part ,Fillominoes and Yin yang taking the medium and the rest being easy.

On my personal experience,with about 30 mins left on the clock for 3 puzzles ,spiral Gal.(6 ,10 and 14), I was looking at a possible finish .But as luck would have it,I got stuck on spiral Galaxies 3 which according to me is the hardest of the set .Just kept going wrong repeatedly, until I finally completed it.I cursed myself for not attempting the 14 pointer being intimidated by its points .I completed it after the test in precisely 7 mins 53s.Ah!

Also, I noticed that I have taken a serious liking to Shikaku puzzles .I was surprised seeing my time that I completed all shikakus in a span of 7 mins. Too bad ,there is no PR round dedicated only to shikakus. :)

To conclude,this was one of those tests where I had a sense of satisfaction having completed 20/22 puzzles which I rarely get in a puzzle test with more half the puzzles left uncompleted.
Thanks Rakesh for a wonderful set!

Btw,refreshing to see Deb give a feedback or is it a new user with the ID debmohanty ? :-p :-p
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-28 6:05 PM (#20145 - in reply to #20144) (#20145) Top



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kishy72 - 2015-11-28 5:50 PM
Btw,refreshing to see Deb give a feedback or is it a new user with the ID debmohanty ? :-p :-p
I enjoy solving all the types Rakesh has selected in this test. So, this was one of the rare occasions where i solved all the puzzles before the test started. So I thought I'm eligible to give feedback this time :)
rakesh_rai
Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-28 6:12 PM (#20146 - in reply to #20140) (#20146) Top



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rob - 2015-11-28 5:25 PM

That was fun, thank you! Most of this was just quickly drawing in the solution. I guessed on the large Yin Yang, and the 4/5 galaxies was an "exploratory" solve.

I could see that one being quite frustrating for players who breeze through everything and then get stuck...

Regarding the puzzle quality: I felt that for a lot of the types, the puzzles didn't really cover the available logic as well as on previous instances, but that may just be a consequence of the puzzles being so easy that they didn't all force a solving path.

Thanks Rob!

Agree with your feedback. We will try to factor this input in future, and try to cover more available logic.
rakesh_rai
Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-28 6:18 PM (#20147 - in reply to #20137) (#20147) Top



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Rohan Rao - 2015-11-28 3:57 PM

Neat set. Hard to choose between Fillomino and Spiral Galaxies. Loved both.
This is one of my better performances in puzzle tests, I was able to race through the puzzles without an error. Few of my guesses directly hit the solution, probably because they are very intuitive.

Thanks Rakesh, really enjoyed solving puzzles authored by you. I think its been a long time :-)

Thanks for your feedback. Does 'Neat' (in this context) mean OK?

Its not been a long time since this is my first puzzle test as an author. I think the 'region' puzzles in general work faster with intuitive solving.
vopani
Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-28 6:24 PM (#20148 - in reply to #20147) (#20148) Top


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rakesh_rai - 2015-11-28 6:18 PM

Thanks for your feedback. Does 'Neat' (in this context) mean OK?

Its not been a long time since this is my first puzzle test as an author. I think the 'region' puzzles in general work faster with intuitive solving.

No. Neat as in, it was crisp, good and overall a nice pleasant solve. Puzzles were not 'extraordinarily fantastic', but it is an excellent set for a PR round. I liked it better than Numbers, Evergreens and my own, Classics.

Yes, its your first puzzle test, but I meant in general... long after Prime Exotica and mock-tests!
rakesh_rai
Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-28 6:27 PM (#20149 - in reply to #20148) (#20149) Top



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@Puzlifouk, @rob: I agree that a high number of puzzles were on the easier side. Personally, I take the positive that most solvers will get a chance to try out all puzzles in the set, which rarely happens.

@wgryciuk: I didn't expect anyone would select "too many hard puzzles" but you have. Can you please share your thoughts about the hard puzzles?
rakesh_rai
Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-28 6:31 PM (#20150 - in reply to #20144) (#20150) Top



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kishy72 - 2015-11-28 5:50 PM



Had any expectations or predictions going for me ? :)

Yes. I thought you would get 70. I thought you would miss out on SG3, SG4 and SG4/5 (exactly the three you did in the end). But you got 76. I am happy I was wrong.

debmohanty - 2015-11-28 3:23 PM

Very nicely balanced round, after the hard Numbers round and very hard Evergreens.

Thanks Deb!
kishy72
Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-28 7:23 PM (#20151 - in reply to #20150) (#20151) Top




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rakesh_rai - 2015-11-28 6:31 PM

kishy72 - 2015-11-28 5:50 PM



Had any expectations or predictions going for me ? :)

Yes. I thought you would get 70. I thought you would miss out on SG3, SG4 and SG4/5 (exactly the three you did in the end). But you got 76. I am happy I was wrong.



Well you were not wrong entirely.If you see my submission timings ,you will notice that I submitted SG3 in the dying moments!So...you predicted well :)
rob
Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-28 9:04 PM (#20153 - in reply to #20140) (#20153) Top


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rob - 2015-11-28 5:25 PM

That was fun, thank you! Most of this was just quickly drawing in the solution. I guessed on the large Yin Yang, and the 4/5 galaxies was an "exploratory" solve.

I could see that one being quite frustrating for players who breeze through everything and then get stuck...


I've since looked at these puzzles again: I missed reasonable steps on both puzzles. That fourth Yin-Yang did a good job showing some different logic. And the 4/5 is fair (for me, it felt quite lucky that I got it out in reasonable time).

By the way I had more trouble with Spiral Galaxies 3 than 4.
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Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-28 9:23 PM (#20154 - in reply to #19949) (#20154) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Fillomino


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Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-29 4:33 AM (#20155 - in reply to #19949) (#20155) Top


 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Shikaku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-29 8:48 AM (#20156 - in reply to #19949) (#20156) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Area Division
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Thanks Rakesh, this test was very fun. A few of the puzzles were too easy to guess at (e.g. the fillominos which had very few hidden polyominoes), but overall the test was nicely done. Spiral galaxy 3 was very tough though, I think I spent 15-20 minutes on that one alone.
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Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-29 9:57 AM (#20157 - in reply to #19949) (#20157) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Spiral Galaxies
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-29 10:30 AM (#20158 - in reply to #19949) (#20158) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Fillomino
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-29 6:26 PM (#20159 - in reply to #19949) (#20159) Top





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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Area Division
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


drsteve
Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-29 8:34 PM (#20160 - in reply to #19949) (#20160) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Area Division
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


One particularly generous puzzle was the 10 point Shikaku. And the "easy" Spiral Galaxies didn't seem to be that easy. In fact, I solved them in the order 1, 4, 3, 2 despite starting them in the right order. But, to be fair, I'm not desperately good at Spiral Galaxies.

Overall though, fun test - the first one I've ever finished!
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Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-29 10:55 PM (#20162 - in reply to #19949) (#20162) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Fillomino
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Zormac
Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-30 1:07 AM (#20163 - in reply to #19949) (#20163) Top




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 How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? variations represented the theme well
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Spiral Galaxies
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? I have a different complaint


"I have a different complaint" - the grid lines were not visible on the paper when I printed the puzzles, for Fillomino (incl variant) and Shikaku puzzles. Probably a matter of too thin grid lines or so. Used a Win 7 laptop and some Canon InkJet - I do not typically have similar problems elsewhere. Thanks.
vopani
Subject: Re: Regions - 28th - 30th Nov - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2015-11-30 1:09 AM (#20164 - in reply to #20163) (#20164) Top


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Zormac - 2015-11-30 1:07 AM

"I have a different complaint" - the grid lines were not visible on the paper when I printed the puzzles, for Fillomino (incl variant) and Shikaku puzzles. Probably a matter of too thin grid lines or so. Used a Win 7 laptop and some Canon InkJet - I do not typically have similar problems elsewhere. Thanks.

Check this: http://logicmastersindia.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1177&...

Did you open the booklet in browser (Chrome) and print?
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