Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier
@ 2019-03-15 1:11 AM (#26757) (#26757) Top

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Link for rules and other details about Puzzle Ramayan: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/2019pr.asp
Instructions for Casual and Word - http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201903/


@ 2019-03-21 10:53 AM (#26766 - in reply to #26757) (#26766) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2019-03-21 10:53 AM

Instruction Booklet


The Instruction Booklet is now available here: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201903/

Points Table shall be updated before the contest starts.

@ 2019-03-21 12:20 PM (#26767 - in reply to #26766) (#26767) Top

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amitsowani posted @ 2019-03-21 12:20 PM

Does the Almost Chess Example violate the rule "No piece can attack another piece" The knight seems to be attacking the king.
@ 2019-03-21 2:20 PM (#26768 - in reply to #26767) (#26768) Top

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amitsowani - 2019-03-21 12:20 PM

Does the Almost Chess Example violate the rule "No piece can attack another piece" The knight seems to be attacking the king.
The example will be corrected.
@ 2019-03-22 1:45 AM (#26771 - in reply to #26757) (#26771) Top

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TiiT posted @ 2019-03-22 1:45 AM

Do another piece block piece movement?
TiiT
@ 2019-03-22 5:18 AM (#26772 - in reply to #26757) (#26772) Top

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sstackho posted @ 2019-03-22 5:18 AM

In addition to the Chess example, is there an error in the sample answer key for Curve Data? I believe the given example answer key should be 22,13
@ 2019-03-22 10:31 AM (#26773 - in reply to #26772) (#26773) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2019-03-22 10:31 AM

sstackho - 2019-03-22 5:18 AM

In addition to the Chess example, is there an error in the sample answer key for Curve Data? I believe the given example answer key should be 22,13

The answer key (11,2) is fine. We need to consider lengths of horizontal segments in this case. Since the segment goes from center to center, the length of the segments in row 2 (for example) is 1, and not 2.

There is always this confusion in puzzles with loops/segments (length of segment v/s number of cells). So your answer will also be considered valid (22,13) but an answer like (22,3) or (11, 13) will not be considered correct. As long as there is consistency in the submitted answer, it will be considered correct.
@ 2019-03-22 10:33 AM (#26774 - in reply to #26771) (#26774) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2019-03-22 10:33 AM

TiiT - 2019-03-22 1:45 AM

Do another piece block piece movement?
TiiT

Pieces do not block other piece movements. This information may be useful for knight only. Pieces cannot attack any other piece anyway.
@ 2019-03-22 11:58 AM (#26775 - in reply to #26757) (#26775) Top

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malikasikka posted @ 2019-03-22 11:58 AM

Hi,

Can someone please share the password for the puzzle booklet of ‘Casual & Word (PR 2018)’. The link is - http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/dl.asp?attachmentid=730


I wanted to practise before taking this test
@ 2019-03-22 1:42 PM (#26776 - in reply to #26775) (#26776) Top

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malikasikka - 2019-03-22 11:58 AM

Hi,

Can someone please share the password for the puzzle booklet of ‘Casual & Word (PR 2018)’. The link is - http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/dl.asp?attachmentid=730


I wanted to practise before taking this test
Can you try from the contest page now? It should be available.
@ 2019-03-22 5:11 PM (#26778 - in reply to #26757) (#26778) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2019-03-22 5:11 PM

Instruction Booklet


The updated Instruction Booklet is now available at the contest page.

Changes
1) Almost chess example fixed.
2) Points table added.

@ 2019-03-22 5:13 PM (#26779 - in reply to #26757) (#26779) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2019-03-22 5:13 PM

Puzzle Booklet


The password protected Puzzle Booklet is now available for download at the contest page.

It is advisable to go through the IB and the answer key notations before starting the test.

@ 2019-03-22 5:14 PM (#26780 - in reply to #26757) (#26780) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2019-03-22 5:14 PM

Start Time


The test starts at 5:30 PM IST.

@ 2019-03-22 6:26 PM (#26781 - in reply to #26773) (#26781) Top

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sstackho posted @ 2019-03-22 6:26 PM

rakesh_rai - 2019-03-22 12:31 AM

sstackho - 2019-03-22 5:18 AM

In addition to the Chess example, is there an error in the sample answer key for Curve Data? I believe the given example answer key should be 22,13

The answer key (11,2) is fine. We need to consider lengths of horizontal segments in this case. Since the segment goes from center to center, the length of the segments in row 2 (for example) is 1, and not 2.

There is always this confusion in puzzles with loops/segments (length of segment v/s number of cells). So your answer will also be considered valid (22,13) but an answer like (22,3) or (11, 13) will not be considered correct. As long as there is consistency in the submitted answer, it will be considered correct.


Oops! Of course, you're right. Sorry, my brain must not have been working properly when I posted this yesterday! Nice to know you accept either answer key.
@ 2019-03-22 10:15 PM (#26782 - in reply to #26757) (#26782) Top

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anurag posted @ 2019-03-22 10:15 PM

Stairs can go top to bottom?
@ 2019-03-22 10:53 PM (#26783 - in reply to #26782) (#26783) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2019-03-22 10:53 PM

anurag - 2019-03-22 10:15 PM

Stairs can go top to bottom?

Yes.

These are the possibilities:
Up/right/up....
Up/left/up....
Left/up/left...
Left/down/left...
Down/left/down...
Down/right/down...
Right/up/right...
Right/down/right...
@ 2019-03-23 4:21 PM (#26784 - in reply to #26757) (#26784) Top

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puzzler05 posted @ 2019-03-23 4:21 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Letter Scrabble
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2019-03-23 5:26 PM (#26785 - in reply to #26757) (#26785) Top

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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Almost Chess
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2019-03-23 10:24 PM (#26786 - in reply to #26757) (#26786) Top

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bob posted @ 2019-03-23 10:24 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Curve Data
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I enjoyed this contest much more than I thought I would, since "casual" puzzles for me seem to involve more intuition than I care for (or maybe my intuition was good today). Anyway I especially liked the word puzzles and the curve data puzzles.
I think there is a typographical error in the word list for puzzle 20. The word PI sohould be PS. The S in PS worked in my answer key.
Thanks for fun diversion.
@ 2019-03-23 10:56 PM (#26787 - in reply to #26786) (#26787) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2019-03-23 10:56 PM

bob - I think there is a typographical error in the word list for puzzle 20. The word PI sohould be PS. The S in PS worked in my answer key.

I think there is no typographical error. You probably got lucky there. The letter in R7C4 is indeed S. But it is part of the word SIPS and not PI. PI is in R6C2 and R7C2.
@ 2019-03-24 12:52 AM (#26788 - in reply to #26757) (#26788) Top

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TiiT posted @ 2019-03-24 12:52 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Curve Data
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Oh that was a challenge. The Instructions looked scary and some puzzles needed lot of struggling. It was like competing with myself all the way.
Too bad I couldn't get the last one correctly done. Everything but one word was placed, but the last one didn't fit :)))
@ 2019-03-24 2:20 AM (#26789 - in reply to #26757) (#26789) Top

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mstang posted @ 2019-03-24 2:20 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Letter Scrabble
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


The word puzzles were good, but some of the casual puzzles just seemed like too much guessing/manual labor.
@ 2019-03-24 7:03 AM (#26790 - in reply to #26789) (#26790) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2019-03-24 7:03 AM

mstang - some of the casual puzzles just seemed like too much guessing/manual labor.

- Almost Chess - needed lot of pencilmarking and elimination. And it is better done at the start. It is difficult to do under time pressure. Maybe 2 and 3 needed more diligent effort and people could tend to guess. But all three can be done by logical elimination if you work with the right piece(s)
- Curve data - can be done logically
- Shortest distances - can be done logically
- Arithmetic square - can be done logically
- Letter weights - can be done logically
- Compass - can be done logically
- Pyramid Climbers - can be done logically
@ 2019-03-24 7:05 AM (#26791 - in reply to #26757) (#26791) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2019-03-24 7:05 AM

Tiit - The Instructions looked scary

Which one(s)?
@ 2019-03-24 8:21 PM (#26792 - in reply to #26757) (#26792) Top

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pranavmanu posted @ 2019-03-24 8:21 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Letter Scrabble
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Very Nice Puzzles.
My favourites were the Almost chess 5 pointer,Meandering words and the Letter scrabble 11 pointer,for which i somehow couldnt place only 1 word,which was frustrating and ate up my time in trying to fix it.

Enjoyed the test.Thanks Rakesh for the puzzles
@ 2019-03-24 10:33 PM (#26793 - in reply to #26791) (#26793) Top

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TiiT posted @ 2019-03-24 10:33 PM

Generally instructions looked scary. Quite many puzzles, first. Also for me many unconvenient puzzle types.
@ 2019-03-24 11:45 PM (#26794 - in reply to #26757) (#26794) Top

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anurag posted @ 2019-03-24 11:45 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Curve Data
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2019-03-25 2:50 PM (#26795 - in reply to #26757) (#26795) Top

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kiwijam posted @ 2019-03-25 2:50 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Letter Scrabble
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Great contest, thank you.
@ 2019-03-25 3:29 PM (#26796 - in reply to #26757) (#26796) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2019-03-25 3:29 PM

pranavamanu - My favourites were the Almost chess 5 pointer ...
There was no 5 pointer in Almost Chess :)
@ 2019-03-25 3:31 PM (#26797 - in reply to #26757) (#26797) Top

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vopani posted @ 2019-03-25 3:31 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Double Letter Scrabble
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Very nice set of puzzles, but on the harder side for PR.
Favourites puzzles: Scrabble, Almost Chess 2, Meandering Words 2

I spent nearly 15+ minutes on Letter Weights, and ultimately still couldn't solve it in time :-(

Thanks Rakesh!
@ 2019-03-25 3:59 PM (#26798 - in reply to #26797) (#26798) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2019-03-25 3:59 PM

vopani - I spent nearly 15+ minutes on Letter Weights, and ultimately still couldn't solve it in time :(
The trick was NIKOLA = 25. That means PRWZ =20. And with help of PARA and WA you can get this real quick, in about 3-4 minutes.
@ 2019-03-26 8:16 AM (#26799 - in reply to #26757) (#26799) Top

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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Double Letter Scrabble
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2019-03-26 8:39 AM (#26800 - in reply to #26799) (#26800) Top

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kishy72 posted @ 2019-03-26 8:39 AM

Is it possible to extend the test deadline by a day ?
@ 2019-03-26 8:44 AM (#26801 - in reply to #26757) (#26801) Top

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3strikerz posted @ 2019-03-26 8:44 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Letter Scrabble
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Loved how the placement of the 3-letter-word was a trick in the last puzzle in Letter scrabble. At first I placed it in the wrong slot(which was perfectly fine by scrabble rules) which blocked a final word from being placed in the grid. Curve datas apparently are my weak point, but very interesting puzzles overall.
@ 2019-03-26 9:37 AM (#26802 - in reply to #26757) (#26802) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2019-03-26 9:37 AM

Extension


The Contest is extended by 24 hours and can be taken till Wednesday (27th March) 2359 hrs IST.

@ 2019-03-26 11:29 AM (#26803 - in reply to #26757) (#26803) Top

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Para posted @ 2019-03-26 11:29 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Letter Weights
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2019-03-26 11:40 AM (#26804 - in reply to #26757) (#26804) Top

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harmeet posted @ 2019-03-26 11:40 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Meandering Words
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Awesome set. I started badly by getting stuck in letter weights and had to let it go after spending lot of time. Somehow gathered momentum towards the end. Enjoyed word puzzles thoroughly.
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MrWutki posted @ 2019-03-26 11:58 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Meandering Words
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2019-03-26 2:14 PM (#26806 - in reply to #26757) (#26806) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2019-03-26 2:14 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Curve Data
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Very nice test. Sure, "casual is not guessing", but I intuited through several of these puzzles... only to realize that they do have nice logical solutions. (Most of them. I still have no idea about Almost Chess.)
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Elyot posted @ 2019-03-27 5:46 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Curve Data
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2019-03-28 12:46 AM (#26809 - in reply to #26757) (#26809) Top

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tamz29 posted @ 2019-03-28 12:46 AM

It would be interesting to see how I'd place if the test only consisted of the Word half ;)
I love Scrabble, and after making lots of it, you definitely get a feel for them.
Curve Data is one of my kryptonites and after failing to tweak out a correct answer, I tried logically solving it and it worked!
Happy with a top-10 finish though.

Thanks Rakesh.
@ 2019-03-28 2:36 AM (#26810 - in reply to #26757) (#26810) Top

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sstackho posted @ 2019-03-28 2:36 AM

I wasn't able to solve #17 during the test time, but I tried it later. I get an answer key different than what is shown on the Summary page, but I can't find a flaw in my solution. Are there multiple solutions? FWIW, my key would be WUTHEA,OHISIN,RUPAHA. And I note that no-one else submitted this key, so I'm guessing I'm missing something somewhere.

EDIT: UGH! I found my problem. I missed this, which would have made it MUCH easier: "The first letter of each word is already given."

Edited by sstackho 2019-03-28 2:40 AM
@ 2019-03-28 4:24 AM (#26811 - in reply to #26757) (#26811) Top

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Mark posted @ 2019-03-28 4:24 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Curve Data
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2019-03-28 9:19 AM (#26812 - in reply to #26757) (#26812) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2019-03-28 9:19 AM

Congratulations to Endo Ken, Bram de Laat and Nikola Zivanovic for taking the top three places.

Amongst Indian participants, Congratulations to Rohan Rao, Prasanna Seshadri and Amit Sowani for taking the top 3 places.

Of the 156 participants, 29 were from India and 21 from USA. Kazuya Yamamoto (Japan) was the first to start the test while Tawan Sunathvanichkul (Thailand) was the last person to start the test. 13 participants completed the set within the allotted time. The median score of the test was 52.3.

Thanks Rakesh Rai for the puzzles!

Thanks to the participants who have shared feedback so far. Participants may share feedback on the results page and rate the puzzles on the contest page.
@ 2019-03-28 9:34 AM (#26813 - in reply to #26757) (#26813) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2019-03-28 9:34 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Scrabble
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Well it did not go as I expected. Another hard round for me, could have definitely done better. I was stuck on lower pointers than high. On bright side, I did better than last year in terms of score.
Favourites were Scrabble and Curve Data.
I still have to solve Almost Chess.
Some reason I felt some lower pointers deserved more points, but could be just my personal experience.
Puzzles were tricky rather than tough but I would say it as hard for a PR round.
Nonetheless high quality puzzles. I enjoyed every bit.
Thanks Rakesh.
@ 2019-03-28 2:39 PM (#26815 - in reply to #26809) (#26815) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2019-03-28 2:39 PM

tamz29 - 2019-03-28 12:46 AM

It would be interesting to see how I'd place if the test only consisted of the Word half ;)
The answer is pretty clear. Based on the timestamps (and assuming time was continuously spent on a single puzzle), we have the following winners of the "Word half". These are only estimates, though, and does not consider participants who submitted all answers in one go.

1. tamz29 27:22
2. sugitakukun 34:06
3. anderson 34:40

"Casual half"

1. EKBM 20:04
2. deu 26:41
3. panista 28:23

So, the test could have been done in 47:26, if we combine the best of both.
@ 2019-03-28 3:40 PM (#26816 - in reply to #26801) (#26816) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2019-03-28 3:40 PM

3strikerz - 2019-03-26 8:44 AM

Loved how the placement of the 3-letter-word was a trick in the last puzzle in Letter scrabble. At first I placed it in the wrong slot(which was perfectly fine by scrabble rules) which blocked a final word from being placed in the grid.
If you check out the PR (casual and word) from 2018, there was a similar step in Scrabble puzzle. It was definitely put intentionally.
@ 2019-03-28 10:51 PM (#26817 - in reply to #26816) (#26817) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2019-03-28 10:51 PM

Thanks for all the feedback - positive as well as negative. I hope I have responded to most of them. Thanks to all 156 participants and Congratulations to the 13 finishers and others who were very close to finishing the set. Good performances from the usual suspects from India, but the scores could have been better. Nice to see some good performances by pranavmanu, avni and Jash in this test!

The objective in this test was to have (a) variety of puzzles (b) avoid picture/visual/counting puzzles as they may not be appropriate for an online test, (c) smaller grids in general. Most of the variants were same as last year. Word Stairs (which has appeared in a 2012 test by Nikola) was the new variant in Word section. But there was a change in the rule with respect to overlapping of letters. In Casual, Almost chess was a risky new addition, as the solving approach was generally tedious. Other changes were compass and pyramid climbers which were gentle puzzles.

Casual: Almost Chess had 4x4 and 5x5 sizes and with an intended start provided for each puzzle (0 and 4 in the 1st, 0 in 2nd and 5 in the 3rd). Curve data grid size was also small and the starts were generally in the corner cells. The third one was slightly larger but easily solvable. Many participants would have worked these out intuitively too as solving tweaks can be done in such puzzles later. Shortest distances was easier than last year with only 10 nodes and probably one extra clue. Letter weights had most of the the top scorer names from last year's PR test. The approach has been discussed already earlier in this thread. Compass needed an approach which could identify corner cells with different regions.

Word: The scrabble was effectively a 3 row puzzle. Letter scrabble -1 was about fitting all the small words in a limited space and Letter Scrabble - 2 was a little exercise with some starts given due to the placement of multiple As and Us, and containing names of some of the top sportswomen from India as clues. The last step was about fitting SMRITI which did not have an A or U. Meandering words were small grids with some simple tricks. Some participants missed the instructions and solved without knowing that the first letters were given. Word stairs turned out to be trickier than expected, and fairly error-prone too. The smaller one had 24 letters to be filled out of 25 grid cells and counting could also be used as one of the inputs while solving. The bigger one had some world dance forms as clues and the starts for JIVE, SWING, TAP and WALTZ were given partially. It was mostly about carefully avoiding repetition of letter A and solving.

The next PR test will be by Ashish and will surely be a good quality test.
@ 2019-04-01 11:37 AM (#26825 - in reply to #26757) (#26825) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2019-04-01 11:37 AM

Solution Booklet (including detailed steps for Almost Chess puzzles): http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/dl.asp?attachmentid=774