Classics - 26th - 29th Jan 2018 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier
@ 2018-01-15 6:39 PM (#24029) (#24029) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-15 6:39 PM




Link for rules and other details about Puzzle Ramayan: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/2018pr.asp
Instructions for Classics - http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201801/
@ 2018-01-21 5:28 PM (#24084 - in reply to #24029) (#24084) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-21 5:28 PM


Logic Masters India announces Classics - first episode of Puzzle Ramayan 2018

Dates : 26th - 29th January

Instruction Booklet & Submission : Link

Author : Rohan Rao

@ 2018-01-23 8:59 AM (#24097 - in reply to #24029) (#24097) Top

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ghirsch posted @ 2018-01-23 8:59 AM

In Open Doors, should there be a rule that any two rooms must have a path between them? Or is this only coincidentally the case in the example?
@ 2018-01-23 11:25 AM (#24098 - in reply to #24097) (#24098) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-23 11:25 AM

The instructions say " All rooms are interconnected by doors."
@ 2018-01-23 12:28 PM (#24099 - in reply to #24029) (#24099) Top

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ghirsch posted @ 2018-01-23 12:28 PM

Sorry, I meant a path of open doors. To be honest, the statement "all rooms are interconnected by doors" seems meaningless since it sounds like every border between cells is a door (open if you can see through it, and closed if not). Though maybe I'm still missing something.
@ 2018-01-23 4:31 PM (#24101 - in reply to #24099) (#24101) Top

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amitsowani posted @ 2018-01-23 4:31 PM

ghirsch - 2018-01-23 12:28 PM

Sorry, I meant a path of open doors. To be honest, the statement "all rooms are interconnected by doors" seems meaningless since it sounds like every border between cells is a door (open if you can see through it, and closed if not). Though maybe I'm still missing something.


Yes the rule is not clear to me as well. Can you clarify if the usual rule for Doors puzzle, that any two rooms should have a path between them through open doors (or no set of rooms should be isolated through closed doors) is required for solving the puzzles or not.
@ 2018-01-24 11:28 AM (#24103 - in reply to #24101) (#24103) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-24 11:28 AM

ghirsch - 2018-01-23 12:28 PM

Sorry, I meant a path of open doors. To be honest, the statement "all rooms are interconnected by doors" seems meaningless since it sounds like every border between cells is a door (open if you can see through it, and closed if not). Though maybe I'm still missing something.

amitsowani - 2018-01-23 4:31 PM

Yes the rule is not clear to me as well. Can you clarify if the usual rule for Doors puzzle, that any two rooms should have a path between them through open doors (or no set of rooms should be isolated through closed doors) is required for solving the puzzles or not.

Rules have been modified "Each cell in the grid represents a room. Some doors are open, while the others are closed. The number inside a room indicates the number of rooms that can be seen (through open doors) from it in all four directions, including itself. All rooms are interconnected by open doors. Draw the closed doors."

Answer keys have been modified: "Enter number of vertical closed doors in the marked rows and number of horizontal closed doors in the marked columns."

Updated IB shall be uploaded later today.
@ 2018-01-24 7:08 PM (#24106 - in reply to #24029) (#24106) Top

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vopani posted @ 2018-01-24 7:08 PM

Rules of Doors (a.k.a. Vista) puzzle is exactly same as in WPC 2017 Instruction Booklet.
@ 2018-01-25 3:18 PM (#24108 - in reply to #24029) (#24108) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-25 3:18 PM

A lookback at past winners of PR 'Classics' contests:


@ 2018-01-25 10:05 PM (#24109 - in reply to #24029) (#24109) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-25 10:05 PM

Updated Instructions Booklet


The updated IB is available now at http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201801/

The only change is the rewording of instructions for Doors puzzle.

@ 2018-01-25 11:10 PM (#24110 - in reply to #24109) (#24110) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-25 11:10 PM

Puzzle Booklet

The PB is available now at http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201801/

Wish you happy solving!

@ 2018-01-25 11:54 PM (#24111 - in reply to #24110) (#24111) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-25 11:54 PM

Good luck to all participants!

The test has now started.
@ 2018-01-26 12:09 AM (#24112 - in reply to #24029) (#24112) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-26 12:09 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-26 2:05 AM (#24113 - in reply to #24029) (#24113) Top

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WA1729 posted @ 2018-01-26 2:05 AM

Is puzzle 3 supposed to have 10s in the lower left and lower right corner? It didn't seem unique to me but worked nicely with those added. Maybe I'm missing something.

Thanks for a good test!
@ 2018-01-26 2:19 AM (#24114 - in reply to #24029) (#24114) Top

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WA1729 posted @ 2018-01-26 2:19 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Favorite Puzzles:

Tents 7
Black and White 12
Number TriLink 20
Black and White and Grey 22

Thank you!
@ 2018-01-26 2:57 AM (#24115 - in reply to #24029) (#24115) Top

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kousek-nebe posted @ 2018-01-26 2:57 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Are you sure that puzzle no.3 numberlink has unique solution? ;-)
@ 2018-01-26 3:00 AM (#24116 - in reply to #24029) (#24116) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-26 3:00 AM

Puzzle Booklet updated

During a change in puzzle booklet to optimize some formatting elements, some givens were missed in a puzzle making it non-unique. This change has been rolled back and we have reverted to the earlier version at 2:55 AM IST (5 minutes prior to this post). As no Indians were impacted, this is the best solution possible at the moment. We apologize to the international participants who tried out the puzzle while it had multiple solutions. If you wish, we can remove your score from LMI ratings consideration.

@ 2018-01-26 3:03 AM (#24117 - in reply to #24115) (#24117) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-26 3:03 AM

kousek-nebe - 2018-01-26 2:57 AM

Are you sure that puzzle no.3 numberlink has unique solution? ;-)


WA1729 - 2018-01-26 2:05 AM

Is puzzle 3 supposed to have 10s in the lower left and lower right corner? It didn't seem unique to me but worked nicely with those added. Maybe I'm missing something.

Thanks for a good test!


Explained above. Apologies for the inconvenience. We request that this isn't considered in the puzzle quality rating since there is a best author prize this year! :)
@ 2018-01-26 1:15 PM (#24119 - in reply to #24029) (#24119) Top

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auroux posted @ 2018-01-26 1:15 PM

I don't mean to be unappreciative, but I didn't particularly enjoy the mechanics of all the grids were one idea was repeated over and over -- it is funny once in a while but here it made solving quite repetitive and not so enjoyable. (Hitori 5 and 6, tents 8 and 9, loop finder 15, doors 17: each of them had a very nice and rather original underlying idea in principle, but in practice these grids were just not fun to solve). This is a case where trying to have original aesthetics / themes in the puzzle construction actually hurts the puzzle quality in my opinion.

Denis
@ 2018-01-27 4:21 AM (#24120 - in reply to #24029) (#24120) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-27 4:21 AM

 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-27 5:56 AM (#24121 - in reply to #24029) (#24121) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2018-01-27 5:56 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Wonderful Test !!
Actually went smooth for being starter.
I completed 20 puzzles in 40 min but took like 15 min in just the Doors and BWG big ones.
At the end entering answer keys was little hectic.

My favourite was of course Doors Big and BWG big.

Thanks Rohan for wonderful test.
@ 2018-01-27 8:19 AM (#24122 - in reply to #24029) (#24122) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-27 8:19 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-27 1:07 PM (#24124 - in reply to #24029) (#24124) Top

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ghirsch posted @ 2018-01-27 1:07 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-27 6:43 PM (#24125 - in reply to #24029) (#24125) Top

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Gotroch posted @ 2018-01-27 6:43 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-27 9:18 PM (#24126 - in reply to #24029) (#24126) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-27 9:18 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-27 9:37 PM (#24127 - in reply to #24029) (#24127) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-27 9:37 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-27 11:07 PM (#24128 - in reply to #24029) (#24128) Top

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Joo M.Y posted @ 2018-01-27 11:07 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-28 2:05 AM (#24129 - in reply to #24029) (#24129) Top

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JonaS2010 posted @ 2018-01-28 2:05 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-28 5:05 AM (#24130 - in reply to #24029) (#24130) Top

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paramesis posted @ 2018-01-28 5:05 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Loop Finder
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I was disappointed with the raster graphics on Black and White and Grey and on Tents (pixellation was really ugly to look at). Also, the interior grid lines in Doors were too dark and thick to be solved in the manner the IB suggests. I ended up drawing X's over borders that contained closed doors and perpendicular lines through doors that were open to create a network of lines. Perhaps slitherlink-style dots would have been better?

Thanks for a great set!
@ 2018-01-28 8:46 AM (#24131 - in reply to #24029) (#24131) Top

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MrLiang posted @ 2018-01-28 8:46 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Hitori
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-28 10:46 AM (#24134 - in reply to #24029) (#24134) Top

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Helen posted @ 2018-01-28 10:46 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-28 11:44 AM (#24135 - in reply to #24029) (#24135) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2018-01-28 11:44 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


So, clearly there are a bunch of easy puzzles. I know it's for Puzzle Ramayan, though, so on retrospect it's fine, even though I was hoping for better.

My favorite puzzles were the two hardest puzzles: Doors 3 and BWG 2. There are several puzzles that are less than ideal: Numberlink 3 had very similar halves; Hitori 3 had a big frame that ended up not doing anything, just artificially making the puzzle larger; Tents 2 had an answer key that was completely independent from the trees (because the only two solutions before including the trees gave the same answer key); Tents 3 had an obvious solution (there were several other no-number Tents puzzles I've done that were more appealing than this); Loop Finder 3 also ended up just having an artificially larger puzzle size, although it's definitely an interesting parity problem; Doors 2 was extremely repetitive.

Answer keys were mostly good, although I expected "leftmost tent for each row" for Tents and "lengths of segments up until closed doors" for Doors. Whether puzzles are worth the right amount, I can't say since I blazed the test, but I think a few puzzles can have their values adjusted.

Anyway... Well, an okay start for the season. I hope it's going better forward, though.
@ 2018-01-28 12:19 PM (#24136 - in reply to #24029) (#24136) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-28 12:19 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-28 1:40 PM (#24137 - in reply to #24029) (#24137) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2018-01-28 1:40 PM

chaotic_iak - 2018-01-28 11:44 AM


No particular reason for quoting, I just wanted to say "New, Huge and Challenging Author" is an awesome tag to have :D

As a general point, I actually feel this difficulty is just right for Puzzle Ramayan. Its significantly less challenging than Sudoku Mahabharat but that's reflective of the current solving capabilities in India. Many newer solvers tried this contest and solved a decent number of puzzles. I think that's good, and hopefully it encourages them to be a bit more regular. In Sudoku we have a lot more depth, so its good to have things a little more difficult. Of course, ideally once solvers become regular and continue improving, we can move the difficulty up along with that. Puzzle quality aside, just commenting on difficulty, I would urge other PR authors to keep this difficulty too. I know it may not be as much fun for veteran solvers and it might be a little more difficult to build fun and varied solve paths but the priority of this particular series is to provide a base for Indian talent (and new talent from other countries too) to develop.
@ 2018-01-28 7:04 PM (#24138 - in reply to #24029) (#24138) Top

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ABcDexter posted @ 2018-01-28 7:04 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Numberlink
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


The level of puzzle was really good, enjoyed a lot :)
@ 2018-01-28 7:11 PM (#24139 - in reply to #24029) (#24139) Top

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kishy72 posted @ 2018-01-28 7:11 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Enjoyed a lot ! First PR round that I got to finish in over 3 years !!

I enjoyed Doors(15) the most followed by Numbertrilink(7) .Thanks for the amazing puzzles !!
@ 2018-01-28 8:10 PM (#24140 - in reply to #24137) (#24140) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2018-01-28 8:10 PM

prasanna16391 - 2018-01-28 4:40 PM

chaotic_iak - 2018-01-28 11:44 AM


No particular reason for quoting, I just wanted to say "New, Huge and Challenging Author" is an awesome tag to have :D

As a general point, I actually feel this difficulty is just right for Puzzle Ramayan. Its significantly less challenging than Sudoku Mahabharat but that's reflective of the current solving capabilities in India. Many newer solvers tried this contest and solved a decent number of puzzles. I think that's good, and hopefully it encourages them to be a bit more regular. In Sudoku we have a lot more depth, so its good to have things a little more difficult. Of course, ideally once solvers become regular and continue improving, we can move the difficulty up along with that. Puzzle quality aside, just commenting on difficulty, I would urge other PR authors to keep this difficulty too. I know it may not be as much fun for veteran solvers and it might be a little more difficult to build fun and varied solve paths but the priority of this particular series is to provide a base for Indian talent (and new talent from other countries too) to develop.


I shouldn't author any more LMI tests so it remains my tag. :P

I do know that PR should be significantly easier. (Hey, there are Indonesian friends with me, and they managed to score around 60%, so I consider that pretty motivating for them.) But even with easy puzzles, I believe one can still make interesting puzzles. Some of the puzzles are really repetitive (those I mentioned); I'm pretty sure it's still possible to tweak them to be much less repetitive, while staying easy and interesting.
@ 2018-01-29 12:08 AM (#24141 - in reply to #24029) (#24141) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-29 12:08 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-29 6:14 AM (#24142 - in reply to #24029) (#24142) Top

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aditi2302 posted @ 2018-01-29 6:14 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Tents
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-29 7:45 AM (#24143 - in reply to #24029) (#24143) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-29 7:45 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Number Trilink
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-29 11:28 AM (#24145 - in reply to #24029) (#24145) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-29 11:28 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-29 12:54 PM (#24147 - in reply to #24029) (#24147) Top

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purifire posted @ 2018-01-29 12:54 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


PR is a wonderful platform to promote puzzle solving in India. I, being a Sudoku solver primarily, have a mental block against puzzles and never participate coz of that. But today it felt nice taking part in PR and I must say the puzzles were of perfect quality to promote and encourage people to take up puzzle solving.
@ 2018-01-29 2:06 PM (#24149 - in reply to #24029) (#24149) Top

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kiwijam posted @ 2018-01-29 2:06 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-29 3:10 PM (#24150 - in reply to #24029) (#24150) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-29 3:10 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-29 5:36 PM (#24151 - in reply to #24029) (#24151) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2018-01-29 5:36 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-29 10:09 PM (#24152 - in reply to #24029) (#24152) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-29 10:09 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-29 10:26 PM (#24154 - in reply to #24029) (#24154) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-29 10:26 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


First on-line competition done for ages. Nice to finish.

@ 2018-01-29 11:28 PM (#24155 - in reply to #24029) (#24155) Top

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utkaarsh posted @ 2018-01-29 11:28 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Number Trilink
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-30 12:56 AM (#24156 - in reply to #24029) (#24156) Top

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greenhorn posted @ 2018-01-30 12:56 AM

The (earlier?) deadline of PR surprised me a lot. I know I am stupid and reading instructions is the hardest puzzle for me, but usually the contest is open until morning (in Europe). Besides that, I believe that one hour would be enough for me (as the contest page informed me that the competition will be over in 60 minutes), but nevermind, maybe next time...
@ 2018-01-30 1:12 AM (#24157 - in reply to #24029) (#24157) Top

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tamz29 posted @ 2018-01-30 1:12 AM

With about 30 minutes to go, it didn't let me start the test :(
I thought you could start from when the test had <90 mins to go - and still get 90 mins for the test.
Oh well. Next season :(
@ 2018-01-30 9:37 AM (#24158 - in reply to #24157) (#24158) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-30 9:37 AM

greenhorn - 2018-01-30 12:56 AM

The (earlier?) deadline of PR surprised me a lot. I know I am stupid and reading instructions is the hardest puzzle for me, but usually the contest is open until morning (in Europe). Besides that, I believe that one hour would be enough for me (as the contest page informed me that the competition will be over in 60 minutes), but nevermind, maybe next time...

tamz29 - 2018-01-30 1:12 AM

With about 30 minutes to go, it didn't let me start the test :(
I thought you could start from when the test had <90 mins to go - and still get 90 mins for the test.
Oh well. Next season :(

Sad to miss out on your participation in PR1.

The contest timings were from Friday 0000 to Monday 2359 IST. You could have seen the exact times on the contest page. If there was confusion it was not intended. However, based on the above feedback, we shall be having the future contests for SM and PR open till 12pm IST on Tuesday (extra 12 hours) - So you can start the test till 1159 IST / 0629 GMT, and still get full 90 minutes.

And, you are welcome to participate in the next tests in February, instead of waiting till next season.
@ 2018-01-30 9:39 AM (#24159 - in reply to #24140) (#24159) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-30 9:39 AM

chaotic_iak - 2018-01-28 8:10 PM

... But even with easy puzzles, I believe one can still make interesting puzzles. Some of the puzzles are really repetitive (those I mentioned); I'm pretty sure it's still possible to tweak them to be much less repetitive, while staying easy and interesting.

Thanks for the suggestions! We will try to make the future episodes more interesting and less repetitive.
@ 2018-01-30 10:19 AM (#24161 - in reply to #24029) (#24161) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-30 10:19 AM

Congratulations to Endo Ken (the current World Puzzle Champion), Tomoya Kimura, Walker Anderson and Ryusuke Nishiyama for taking the top four places. They all finished the contest in less than 30 minutes overall.

Amongst Indian participants, Congratulations to Prasanna Seshadri, Amit Sowani and Swaroop Guggilam for taking the top 3 places.

Of the 200 participants, 41 were from India, 27 from Japan (5 of the top 6 are from Japan) and 22 from USA. Panthini (India) was the first to start the test while Victoria I Perez (Cuba) was the last person to start the test. 91 participants completed the set within the allotted time. The median score of the test was 89.7.

Thanks Rohan Rao for the puzzles!

Participants may share feedback on the results page and rate the puzzles on the contest page.
@ 2018-01-31 6:22 PM (#24164 - in reply to #24029) (#24164) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-31 6:22 PM

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@ 2018-02-04 10:22 AM (#24177 - in reply to #24029) (#24177) Top

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pranavmanu posted @ 2018-02-04 10:22 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Loop Finder
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


This was my first puzzle test on LMI and I really enjoyed it.Thanks to Rohan for an enjoyable,easy set that was encouraging to a beginner.
As to the answer keys,they were quite confusing.I made three answer key errors and entering them,in general,took away a lot of time.To be more specific,the answer key format for Tents atleast, wasnt optimal,in my opinion.

Apart from that,I really enjoyed the test.
Thank you:)